by StuartFebruary 16th, 2011 2 Comments
I’m involved in a thought provoking conversation over on the Premier Forum. I know it’s not like me to foray into these areas on this blog, but just for once, especially as I’m listening to music that makes me somewhat wistful.
The question posed in the opening post revolves around the use of the terms: “rebel, controller, manipulator”, for Jesus.
The author is not happy with this and posits:
I can see Him as revolutionary, but not a rebel, not rebellious. Perhaps it is because I see rebellion as a sin.
I think semantically this is correct, but feel the author is viewing these terms as pejorative, which if applied to man is accurate, but not for God.
One commenter (Iggy) commented:
I think to describe our Lord as a rebel or as rebelling against the world (or the Pharisees) is to look through the wrong end of the looking glass. It is mankind that is is frequently in rebellion against God, not vice versa.
To which I responded:
Yes agreed. This is of course to view through the theological grist – which is accurate – however, from an unregenerate human perspective, Jesus was a rebel in informing us that God is topsy turvey to the world, or of course – more accurately – visa versa.
I note however, he paid his dues to the authorities at every turn.
In summary, I’m happy for the term “rebel” to be applied to Jesus.
But what about the terms: “Controller” or “Manipulator“?
Again, I’d posit these terms are viewed in the main pejoratively, and when applied to man this is essentially accurate.
But when applied to God these terms are not at all pejorative.
I’m not going to offer a sophisticated Biblical exegesis, as I’m simply not qualified, but will attest to experience. I believe that God is both “controller” and “manipulator“, and I’m thankful that he is.
As an avowed social scientist and atheist, I would never have come to, and accepted, Jesus on my own intellectual steam, and do attest to a God that broke through into my life, without acquiescence to me.
I can also attest to a God, who has manipulated people, circumstances, and the world around me, to save my life and soul, and I’m eternally grateful he did.
Does this make him egotistical? Certainly not, and frankly if anyone has a right to be the same, then it is God.Posted by Stuart James