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		<title>When God Does Not Show Up</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 05:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>C Michael Patton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There have been so many times in my life when God has not shown up. So many times when I am at my wits end, when it is forth and long, ninth inning, I put up a last hope three pointer and the ball hits the tape and falls gently on my side of the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been so many times in my life when God has not shown up. So many times when I am at my wits end, when it is forth and long, ninth inning, I put up a last hope three pointer and the ball hits the tape and falls gently on my side of the court. My mixing of sports metaphors is not an accident. It represents the confusion I often experience as I mêlée through the options of rescue God could use. After all, he must win the game in one of the metaphors. But not only do I lose the tennis match, but the football, baseball, and basketball game as well. I just can&#8217;t seem to sync up my game with his. You know . . . the ones where victory is claimed (not just proclaimed).</p>
<p>Half the time is seems that things simply function just the way one would expect if God was in heaven playing darts. Our lives are filled with so many things that go from bad to worse. The hardest part about it for me is that the things we request are very often <em>good</em> things. On our best days, we seek God&#8217;s renovation. We long for it. We lay down at night and dream about it. Our eyes sting due to tearful begging for it. Who could argue that someone praying for a better marriage, obedient children, a quenched addiction, a calm spirit, an obedient heart, or a bill responsibly paid are outside of God&#8217;s will? Who could argue that praying for the ability to gird up our will and make serious changes in overcoming sin in our lives is wrong? I know that there are &#8220;those&#8221; stories out there. You know, the one&#8217;s where a person becomes a Christian, then all of the sudden everything has changed (for good!). I have a love-hate relationship with those stories. I love them as I love an epic movie where the hero has saved the world. I love to know it is out there. But those are just stories. I have very few (if any) of those stories. Most of mine involve a seemingly never-ending pattern: stumble, fall, dirt in mouth, think about staying down, renewing hope, getting back up, trying again, stumble, fall, dirt in mouth . . . <em>ad infinitum</em>. In fact, I am still in many of these stories. </p>
<p>At this point a mob forms in my subconscious rallying to find a way to express my anger and frustration with God. Yet no form of this finds a definite incarnation either in my words or deeds. &#8220;Why do you put up with this guy?&#8221; the mob yells. &#8220;Yeah, let&#8217;s take him to court. We can win!&#8221; Win what? A settlement with God? What would that look like anyway? I don&#8217;t have any grounds. There were no guarantees that he has failed to accomplish. The hope that I grope for was never here. <span id="more-10164"></span></p>
<p>And those things we <em>do get</em> can taint reality in every way.</p>
<p>Entitlement. That is the word. Entitlement. I am entitled to have a good marriage. I am entitled to have financial stability. I am entitled to have health. I am entitled to be able to get a good night&#8217;s sleep. I am entitled to a sound mind. I am entitled to have children. I am entitled to a new television. I am entitled to be employed. I am entitled to never have an overdraft fee. I am entitled to have a family that follows the Lord. I am entitled to have a little more and the next cool thing out there.</p>
<p>Entitlement. Where did we get this? It certainly was not from Jeremiah. I love the way (relatively speaking) that he speaks of being on the run from the Lord. </p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><a class="bibleref" title="Lam. 3:10-14" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Lam.%203.10-14/">Lam. 3:10-14</a><br />
He [God] is to me like a bear lying in wait, like a lion in secret places. He has turned aside my ways and torn me to pieces; He has made me desolate. He bent His bow and set me as a target for the arrow. He made the arrows of His quiver to enter into my inward parts.</p>
<p>I think that Jeremiah just felt entitled to being safe from his Saviour. His Shepherd was now, from his often entertained perspective, a predator seeking the carnage of his soul. In &#8220;secret places&#8221; God hides, ready to make his next strike. Not only was God failing to show up and rescue him from the harm of those outside, but he was, to Jeremiah, the one bringing about the harm. I wonder if these thoughts represent the mob of Jeremiah&#8217;s subconscious. His mind eventually turn back to reason (<a class="bibleref" title="Lam. 3:21-23" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Lam.%203.21-23/">Lam. 3:21-23</a>). But I am glad he had a parchment and pen handy to write these down. I am grateful for his transparency here. Jeremiah was the first great blogger. (How would you like to see the comments on his blog? I fear to go there.)</p>
<p>When I am at a loss, it rarely comes from the &#8220;big&#8221; things. Normally, it is the little nagging things that seem so meaningless. You know, the things that it would be easy for God to take care of. Maybe it is not the dinner bill that he fails to provide for, but the gratuities that we have to cover which eventually break us. I get tired. Then I read this:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><a class="bibleref" title="Jer. 12:5" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Jer.%2012.5/">Jer. 12:5</a><br />
If you have run with footmen and they have tired you out, Then how can you compete with horses?</p>
<p>I have often said to the Lord: &#8220;But Lord, the footmen <em>are</em> wearying me. Footmen! I can&#8217;t even keep up with them. I <em>can&#8217;t</em> compete with horses. I can&#8217;t. Ever. I am sorry.&#8221;</p>
<p>Back to Lamentations: Is it okay to say that God is a bear lying in wait? Is it okay to <em>think</em> that? Is it okay to think that God is not going to show up? At least in the way we think? I don&#8217;t know, but rarely do we humans pull off the okay.</p>
<p>Then there are those who encourage us. We need to be encouraged, so we listen. &#8220;Things will change,&#8221; they tell us. &#8220;You just have to believe that God will pull off a miracle.&#8221; I have mustered up &#8220;belief&#8221; before, but it was empty, vain, and totally destructive to my spiritual well-being. The damage done by mustering up hope in promises that God has never made stay with many people until death. Disappointment with God for not fulfilling commitments he never made. How much spiritual depression can be summed up in that?</p>
<p>Sometimes we need to take a cold hard look at Jeremiah, the weeping prophet, and see that life is hard and it will be until the end. Not always. But often. But our ultimate hope and God&#8217;s faithfulness are very specific, being positioned to take the world at the final stand. Our duty is not to mêlée for God to show up in places he is not supposed to or to do things that are outside of his program, but to wait with eagerness and expectation for the kingdom which is to come. The carnage that we see <em>in us</em> and <em>around us</em>, like it was with Jeremiah, are allowed for now. But not then. Then God <em>will</em> show up and we will have no doubt that it is him. That is what we are entitled to. Keep the faith with me until then?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><a class="bibleref" title="Lam 3:21-242" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Lam%203.21-242/">Lam 3:21-242</a>1<br />
This I recall to my mind, Therefore I have hope. The LORD&#8217;S lovingkindnesses indeed never cease, for His compassions never fail. They are new every morning; Great is Your faithfulness. The LORD is my portion,&#8221; says my soul, &#8220;Therefore I have hope in Him.<br />
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		<title>Why I Do Not Teach Christian Living Principles</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 12:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Robinson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Lisa Robinson) Last year, an opportunity opened up for me to teach a group of very-young-in-the-faith believers.   This is not the first time I have worked with new believers but I find that I am taking a different approach this time.  You would think that one of the first things I would teach them was [...]]]></description>
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<p>Last year, an opportunity opened up for me to teach a group of very-young-in-the-faith believers.   This is not the first time I have worked with new believers but I find that I am taking a different approach this time.  You would think that one of the first things I would teach them was how to be a good Christian.  After all, isn&#8217;t that what every new believer wants to know&#8230;&#8221;how do I do this Christian thing?&#8221;  It seems reasonable that I would want to teach them Christian living principles so they can have some type of guideline.  Right?</p>
<p>Well, I that is not what I did nor is what I advocate to teach Christians, even believers who are new to the faith.  Instead, I wholeheartedly endorse teaching the foundations of Christianity.   Foundations of Christianity are a very different animal than Christian living principles.  Foundations start with an understanding of God, who He is and what He has provided.  Foundations establish how God has revealed Himself and His redemptive plan for His creation through Christ.  Foundations teach who Christians are according to what the Father has done through the Son by the Spirit.  Foundations teach how the individual salvation relates to the corporate entity of the church.</p>
<p>Christian living principles, on the other hand, provide a methodology for how to approach spiritual life.  It is basically a checklist for compliance for maintaining Christian growth.  Here are some principles that I have found common</p>
<ul>
<li>Pray</li>
<li>Read your bible</li>
<li>Maintain fellowship with other believers</li>
<li>Walk in integrity and honesty</li>
<li>Get involved with serving</li>
<li>Share your faith</li>
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<p>While this may seem like a good list to give new Christians, I do not believe that ultimately compliance with principles is what leads to authentic Christian growth.  In fact, I think this could actually be a hindrance and can ensnare new Christians as they strive to understand what the Christian life is about.  So here are five reasons I do not teach Christian living principles.<span id="more-10100"></span></p>
<p>1) Christian living principles do not teach the Christian how to grow spiritually.  They only provide a standard for compliance.</p>
<p>2) Christian living principles can get confused for actual spiritual growth.  A believer may get the impression that they are becoming a better Christian simply because of compliance.  Conversely, they may feel they are not good Christians by lack of compliance.  Rather, spiritual growth occurs when the believer is becoming more Christ-like, trusting in the completed work of the cross, yielding to the Holy Spirit and participating in active body life. This can only happen through authentic learning and support of the Christian community.</p>
<p>3) Christian living principles encourage a standard by which to evaluate the spiritual status of other Christians.  This is not necessarily a good thing.  What I have discovered both through the pages of scripture and experientially is that God takes Christians through varied and individualized growth processes.  Growth should be steady but does not occur the same way with everyone.  The Holy Spirit is at work in the hearts of Christians in ways we cannot fully know.</p>
<p>4) Foundations establishes the Christian in their identity.  Considering that we still have fleshly tendencies and histories of how we see ourselves, authentic growth occurs by understanding who we are in Christ.  And this happens when we understand who He is and what He has accomplished according to the will of the Father.  The more we understand who God is and who we are, the more it ought to affect our reliance upon the Holy Spirit, our worship and submission to the triune God and our relations to members of the body of Christ.  We will not need to tell Christians to read their bible if they understand that it is God&#8217;s communication to us.  We will not need to tell Christians to pray when they gain an understanding of the necessity of prayer.  We will not need to be told to serve if we understand our position in relation to the church, its purpose and function.</p>
<p>5) Foundations encourage developing a life of grace.  If we are to believe that the grace freely given to us through Christ is unmerited and the basis of our Christian existence, then maintenance of grace is only achieved through reliance on that grace and the active work of the Holy Spirit.  Moreover, it mitigates the need for us to evaluate other Christians according to a list of things we think they should be doing.   Foundations rightly put the focus on God and how we relate to Him.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I am not saying that Christians do not need to live by principles.  Nor am I advocating for the abandonment of methodology.  But my premise is that what Christians need to grow in grace and true knowledge of Jesus Christ (<a class="bibleref" title="2 Peter 3:18" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/2%20Peter%203.18/">2 Peter 3:18</a>) is the foundation by which they understand grace and the true knowledge of Christ.  This can only happen when they learn about God on His terms and the life that He has called them to.  Whatever methodology is needed will follow.  Whatever principles that should be the fabric of our Christian life will fall into place as we grow and develop into maturity.</p>
<p>So how have I approached this?  In my class, we started out with the concept of revelation and God&#8217;s intentional unveiling of Himself.  The gospel is the very fabric by which we understand what we have. We did an overview of the bible, establishing the story of revelation and how each component fits within that story.   We have been plodding through John for a few months now, which we approach holistically and theologically striving to learn about God on His terms.  To be sure, the subject of Christian living principles come up but it is only in response to what we are learning about what God has communicated to us and our Christian identity.  It is invigorating watching these guys grow.<strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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		<title>Why I Don&#8217;t Think Much Of the Spiritual Formation Movement</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 19:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>C Michael Patton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was recently asked to participate in a group that is creating a curriculum in the area of “spiritual formation.” I have never really written or spoken much on this, but my nerve endings are a bit sensitive when the subject is introduced. In other words, I can hang with it for a bit, but [...]]]></description>
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<p>I was recently asked to participate in a group that is creating a curriculum in the area of “spiritual formation.” I have never really written or spoken much on this, but my nerve endings are a bit sensitive when the subject is introduced. In other words, I can hang with it for a bit, but when it is talked about in terms of “curriculum” or “discipleship” or forming the “whole spiritual person,” I start to back out.</p>
<p>What is “spiritual formation”? I am trying to be fair and representative of it, but I know there will be those who feel I have left something out. Nevertheless, here it goes:</p>
<p>“Spiritual formation describes a process or path to spiritual wholeness though a practice of specific disciplines including prayer, meditation, study, fasting, solitude, confession, and worship. The end goal is that the person would be more Christ-like.”</p>
<p>Nothing wrong with that. Right? After all, who would argue against the necessity of confession, prayer, and Bible study?! These are all staple food groups in the food pyramid&#8230;errr&#8230;circle (or whatever it is now) of the Christian life. And it is the beginning of a new year. Time to set new goals, agendas, remake ourselves, right the wrongs, and discipline ourselves in ways we failed to in the previous year. So, how can I have ill will toward such things? I don&#8217;t, but hang with me.</p>
<p>In the last ten years, “spiritual formation” has become quite popular. I took a course called “Spiritual Formation” in seminary. Many well-respected colleges and seminaries are even offering Master&#8217;s degrees in spiritual formation. It is nothing new and there is everything right about being disciplined. <em>But the current practice seems to have evolved into some sort of perceived spiritual antibiotic to all sin, malnutrition, and disease.</em></p>
<p>At one time, I tried to get in with the spiritual formation thing. At least, I tried to understand it as a movement. I even offered an elective course at Stonebriar Community Church through the Center for Biblical Studies of Dallas Theological Seminary. Why? Well, everyone else was doing it! I am not going to mention any of the gurus in these circles (many of whom I have great respect for and from whom I have learned much), but I do have some things about which I don’t mind taking liberty to be somewhat offensive.</p>
<p>First, a confession: for me, listening to or reading books of this genre is like listening to an organ. I know, you love the organ. I don’t too much. It drains the life out of me. I only have enough breath to make it though half a sentence in each organ-led song and the sentences are not long. When I read spiritual formation books, it is the same. It takes me half a day to get through a paragraph and the paragraphs are not that long. When I finish the book, I usually think to myself, “That could have been said in a lot less space. Did I just lose a week off my life?&#8221; Dramatic? Yes. But I am speaking for myself here.</p>
<p>(Calm down and keep reading.)<img title="More..." src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins/wordpress/img/trans.gif" alt="" /><img title="More..." src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins/wordpress/img/trans.gif" alt="" /><span id="more-10065"></span></p>
<p>It is not that I think this 21st century spiritual formation movement is necessarily wrong, I just don’t jump on that bus. My vehicle simply does not run on that fuel.</p>
<p>Having spoken of this in a somewhat subjective way, let&#8217;s get to my issue. I do think there are some things in the spiritual formation movement that can be counterproductive. No . . . I don’t think it is “new age.” No . . . I don’t think that it is part of the “one world religion.” No, I don’t think it is demonic! I have actually read many Christian critiques that argue for such. Don’t go there. Those who argue such need to stop, count to ten, spin around thirty times, and take a spiritually-disciplined nap.</p>
<p>There are some red flags to everything (including theological studies!). Let me list some here with regard to spiritual formation movement:</p>
<p><strong>1. It <em>can</em> fail to account for individuality.</strong></p>
<p><em>This is how, when, and where you need to pray. You need to fast at least once a month. Here is how you should read your Bible.</em> Encouragers of this type often disturb me. Not because they are making me uncomfortable in spiritual laziness (well, maybe a little), but because they attempt to shape me into someone that I am not. The spiritual formation movement can have a “cookie-cutter” mentality where every individual loses their individuality. When you begin to tell me when and how to pray, confess, fast, read, meditate, and the like, you fail to realize that <em>I am not you</em>!</p>
<p>God created us individually. The community does not function properly until we are functioning within our individuality. You may get up early in the morning and pray with your kids, read your Bible, carry Scripture memory cards, and take your vitamins. This is wonderful. But when you begin to overlay your structure on my life, it does not usually work. We have to allow others to express their spirituality according to their various strengths and weaknesses. This is simply recognizing the way God made us. When we don&#8217;t allow people to work in harmony to their own spiritual DNA, we can actually stunt their growth.</p>
<p><strong>2. It can set one up for unrealistic expectations.</strong></p>
<p>I have seen many people who jump head first into the &#8220;spiritual disciplines.&#8221; They are excited because they have structure. There is an ABC to their spiritual growth. For the first time, they realize they have not grown because they have not followed the “right” pattern. Before they have even had a chance to test the longevity of their new method in their own lives, they are pressuring others to follow with them.</p>
<p>I always give it a few months. I was there myself at one point. Real life has a way of laughing at our paradigms. Sooner or later most people find that the spiritual life is not produced through the A + B = C path. When this happens &#8211; when their expectations are not met &#8211; they not only give up on the form, but they get discouraged thinking it is the fault of the principles. In other words, if fasting every third week and practicing the <em>Lectio Divina</em> every morning does not fulfill the hyped expectations, then it is both prayer and self-discipline that failed, not my legalistic structure. This is wrong. Prayer is indispensable. Properly understood and practiced, fasting strengthens the will and tests commitment. Bible meditation is our food. But a one-size-fits-all pattern for practice quickly becomes empty spiritual calories that can make us malnourished.</p>
<p><strong>3. It can hinder the spontaneous nature of the Spirit’s movements.</strong></p>
<p>I know of some people who need to practice the spiritual discipline of taking a break from their spiritual routine. In weight training, one of the worst things you can do is to get stuck in a routine for too long, because our muscles get used to the same things over and over again. Things need to be changed up from time to time. We call this &#8220;shocking&#8221; the muscles. Some of us need our spiritual muscles shocked. For some, spiritual routines are the enemy of growth. Our habits become enshrined and untouchable. To break this routine causes us to be down, discouraged, and feeling like our spiritual equilibrium is off. What we often don&#8217;t realize is that these routines are actually controlling our person more than the Spirit of God. “The wind blows where it wills, so it is with the Spirit of God.” The Holy Spirit is faithful, but does not always follow our calendars.</p>
<p>When we attempt to structure our spiritual life, we can make the mistake of trying to twist the arm of God in our development. We don’t know exactly when or how God’s Spirit is going to move in our lives. We need to make sure that our mentality in spiritual formation does not create an implied path that God <em>must</em> follow. I fear that the mentality of this spiritual formation movement implicitly leans in such a direction. It is not unlike the dark side of the charismatic movement where a theology of expectation can get in front of God. Unfortunately (and fortunately!), God does not check our calendars to see when he is going to make his moves in our lives. His grace is the controlling force and it knows how to get the job done better than our routine.</p>
<p><strong>4. It can be a replacement for trust, belief, and faith.</strong></p>
<p>I think we can often mistake busyness for belief. In other words, we often think that if we are doing enough stuff, then we must believe in what we are doing. This is not true. I have seen far too many people who go through the movements of spiritual disciplines precisely because they cannot find a foothold in their faith. They believe their actions can create belief or at least be a placeholder for it. Belief is the foundation for the action, not the other way around. While many in this movement place a strong emphasis on belief and the discipline of study, I find that as a whole, it serves in a very secondary capacity. This is unfortunate. One of the worst things we can do as Christians is give people an excuse for not examining the reality of their belief. Doing “things” is easy. Following steps and rules is a snap. Belief - <em>true belief - </em>is often hard.</p>
<p>However, I do need to mark what might be somewhat of an inconsistency in my thinking here. I do encourage people who are doubting to continue in their Christian routine, even though their beliefs are tipsy. However, I don&#8217;t think this is a permanent thing. Our beliefs should eventually reclaim their position as the guides of our lives, not our routines.</p>
<p>Talk to God, control your will, stay broken before God, and diligently search for truth. These are the principles. Even have a disciplined routine. Fast once a week, pray with arms in the air, repent to other people, get up early and meet our Lord, and meditate on the Psalms. When you do these things - <em>however you do these things - </em>Christ will be formed in you and others will see Christ in you. I promise. But, realize that there is not one path to Christ being formed in you and God will not be controlled by your structure. If you get this, then call it spiritual formation, Christian discipline, or whatever. In the end, it is the Christian life where he who is at work in you will perfect his work in you. Your spirit will be <em>con</em>formed.</p>
<p>My Facebook friend asked me yesterday &#8220;Why do some people hate the spiritual formation movement with such a passion?&#8221; I know those people. But they usually hate everything with the same passion. I don&#8217;t hate the Spiritual Formation Movement. I just think there are some red flags that we need to be aware of (and the organ draining that I experience is not really one of them!).<strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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		<title>&#8220;Sinners&#8221; Who Are Forgiven or &#8220;Saints&#8221; Who Sin? &#8211; Robert Saucy</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Michael Patton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the portfolio of my Christian life, there are a few events, lessons, and people who stand out and deserve a page in my &#8220;book.&#8221; There are many things that stand out prominently in my spiritual education as causing me to have one of those &#8220;ah ha&#8221; moments: Chet Lackey, my pastor from age 16-21. Mark Hitchcock&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the portfolio of my Christian life, there are a few events, lessons, and people who stand out and deserve a page in my &#8220;book.&#8221; There are many things that stand out prominently in my <em>spiritual education </em>as causing me to have one of those &#8220;ah ha&#8221; moments: Chet Lackey, my pastor from age 16-21. Mark Hitchcock&#8217;s sermon on Matt. 7:14 in 1993. Chuck Swindoll&#8217;s book <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1400202930/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=reclaimingthe-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=1400202930">Grace Awakening</a></em> (and the Insight for Living broadcasts) in 1994. John Hannah&#8217;s Church History courses at DTS (really, it was just John Hannah!). Leslie Newbingen&#8217;s <em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0802808565/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=reclaimingthe-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0802808565">Proper Confidence</a></em> in 2006. I could go on.</p>
<p>Below is an article I was assigned to read in my Spiritual Formation group at DTS. I have looked and looked for it for years (as I lost my Spiritual Formation workbook), but could not find it. But a friend just sent it to me a few days ago! It is called <em>&#8220;Sinners&#8221; who are forgiven or &#8220;Saints&#8221; who sin? </em>and it definitely belongs in my portfolio.  The author is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_L._Saucy">Robert Saucy</a>. It&#8217;s long, but well worth the read. I hope you enjoy.</p>
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<p>&#8220;Sinners&#8221; Who Are Forgiven or &#8220;Saints&#8221; Who Sin? &#8211; Robert Saucy</p>
<p>The question of the true identity of the Christian has been the topic of discussion for some time. Although not directly framed as a question of identity, the issues of self-love, self-esteem, and self-worth all relate in some way to the question, &#8220;Who am I?&#8221; This question has been posed more sharply in the alternatives, &#8220;Am I as a Christian basically a sinner who is forgiven, or a saint who sins?&#8221;</p>
<p>The first of these alternatives may be associated with what Warfield favorably termed &#8220;miserable-sinner Christianity.&#8221;<sup>1</sup> He referred to it this way because similar terminology runs through Protestant confessional formulas and catechisms.<sup>2</sup> Luther&#8217;s Short Catechism, for example, teaches the believer to say, &#8220;I, miserable sinner, confess myself before God guilty of all manner of sins.&#8221; A Lutheran Confession of Sin reads:</p>
<p>I, poor sinful man, confess to God, the Almighty, my Creator and Redeemer, that I not only have sinned in thoughts, words and deeds, but also was conceived and born in sin, and so all my nature and being is deserving of punishment and condemnation before His righteousness. Therefore I flee to His gratuitous mercy and seek and beseech His grace. Lord, be merciful to me, miserable sinner.</p>
<p>A similar expression is found in the prayers of the Church of England. After acknowledging sinfulness and declaring that &#8220;there is no health in us,&#8221; the prayer closes with the petition, &#8220;But thou, O Lord, have mercy upon us, miserable offenders.&#8221; One of the most rhetorical expressions of the concept of &#8220;miserable-sinner Christianity&#8221; is given by the Scottish minister, Alexander Whyte, in his work Bunyan Characters.</p>
<p>Our guilt is so great that we dare not think of it. It crushes our minds with a perfect stupor of horror, when for a moment we try to imagine a day of judgment when we shall be judged for all the deeds that we have done in the body. Heart-beat after heart-beat, breath after breath, hour after hour, day after day, year after year, and all full of sin; all nothing but sin from our mother&#8217;s womb to our grave.<sup>3</sup></p>
<p>It would be wrong to take such a statement as necessarily signifying &#8220;miserable Christianity&#8221; rather than &#8220;miserable-sinner Christianity.&#8221; Many of those who confessed their situation in this way knew how to flee to the grace of God and find the joy of forgiveness. But such statements would also seem to color the self-understanding of believers as to their basic nature.</p>
<p>An example of the alternative understanding of Christian identity as a &#8220;saint who sins&#8221; is a statement by Neil Anderson in one of his popular books.<span id="more-10061"></span></p>
<p>Many Christians refer to themselves as sinners saved by grace. But are you really a sinner? Is that your scriptural identity? Not at all. God doesn&#8217;t call you a sinner; He calls you a saint—a holy one. Why not identity yourself for who you really are: a saint who occasionally sins?<sup>4</sup></p>
<p>If the word &#8220;occasionally&#8221; is excluded from Anderson&#8217;s statement, there is truth in both alternatives of the question. Believers are sinners in that they continue to sin, but Scripture also refers to them as saints. Believers therefore are sinners who by God&#8217;s grace are forgiven, and they are saints who sin.</p>
<p>Thus in a sense Christians have a kind of double identity. But this does not mean they are schizophrenic or multiple persons. Each believer is one person, one ego or &#8220;I&#8221;.  The Apostle Paul wrote, &#8220;I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God&#8221; (<a class="bibleref" title="Gal 2:20" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Gal%202.20/">Gal 2:20</a>). There was only one &#8220;I&#8221; and one Paul throughout this transition. The question of the believer&#8217;s identity is therefore the question of the identity of that ego or &#8220;I.&#8221; And it would seem that that identity must be related to the actual nature and behavior of that ego. If the nature and activity of the person is primarily sinful, then it is difficult not to see his core identity as a &#8220;sinner.&#8221; On the other hand if the believer&#8217;s nature and activity is primarily holy, then that person&#8217;s real identity is that of a &#8220;saint.&#8221;</p>
<p align="center"><strong>The Believer&#8217;s Positive Identity</strong></p>
<p>Consideration of the scriptural description of the believer and his activity obviously reveals a mixture of sin and holiness. But when the focus is on the actual description of the person&#8217;s identity, the picture is decidedly positive. Even in the Old Testament, believers are described as living with a heart of integrity, soundness, and uprightness (e.g., <a class="bibleref" title="1 Kings 8:61; 9:4" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/1%20Kings%208.61%3B%209.4/">1 Kings 8:61; 9:4</a> {1 Kgs 9:4}; Pss. 78:72 {<a class="bibleref" title="Ps 78:72" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Ps%2078.72/">Ps 78:72</a>}; 119:7 {<a class="bibleref" title="Ps 119:7" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Ps%20119.7/">Ps 119:7</a>}). This of course does not mean that they were sinless or unaware of their sin. But they had a heart and life that was fundamentally devoted to God. Turning to the New Testament, Christians are frequently addressed as &#8220;saints&#8221; (e.g., <a class="bibleref" title="Acts 9:32" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Acts%209.32/">Acts 9:32</a>; <a class="bibleref" title="Eph 1:1" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Eph%201.1/">Eph 1:1</a>; <a class="bibleref" title="Col 1:2" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Col%201.2/">Col 1:2</a>). This surely has reference to their status in Christ, but other descriptions reveal that it also denotes something about their nature. Believers in the Lord are &#8220;sons&#8221; and &#8220;children of God&#8221; which, along with speaking of position or status, also depicts something of the nature of believers who are now oriented toward righteousness (<a class="bibleref" title="1 John 2:29-3:2" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/1%20John%202.29-3.2/">1 John 2:29-3:2</a> {<a class="bibleref" title="1 John 3:2" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/1%20John%203.2/">1 John 3:2</a>}). Those in Christ are also called &#8220;light&#8221; (<a class="bibleref" title="Eph 5:8" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Eph%205.8/">Eph 5:8</a>) and &#8220;sons of light&#8221; (<a class="bibleref" title="1 Thess 5:5" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/1%20Thess%205.5/">1 Thess 5:5</a>), which means &#8220;they are characterized by light&#8221; as a result of the &#8220;transformation that takes place when anyone believes.&#8221;<sup>5</sup></p>
<p>The believer is part of the &#8220;new creation&#8221; (<a class="bibleref" title="2 Cor 5:17" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/2%20Cor%205.17/">2 Cor 5:17</a>). He has put off the &#8220;old man&#8221; and put on the &#8220;new man&#8221; (<a class="bibleref" title="Col 3:9-10" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Col%203.9-10/">Col 3:9-10</a>; cf. <a class="bibleref" title="Rom 6:6" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Rom%206.6/">Rom 6:6</a>). This transition refers to the believer&#8217;s transference from the old corporate humanity under the headship of Adam to the new humanity with Christ as Head. But it also has reference to a change in the individual.<sup>6 </sup>Pointing to the imagery used of putting off and putting on clothing, Lincoln rightly explains that this &#8220;change of clothing imagery signifies an exchange of identities, and the concepts of the old and the new persons reinforce this.&#8221;<sup>7</sup> Since the appellation &#8220;new man&#8221; also has reference to the individual, the descriptions of it as &#8220;created in righteousness and holiness of the truth&#8221; (<a class="bibleref" title="Eph 4:24" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Eph%204.24/">Eph 4:24</a>) and &#8220;being renewed according to the image of the One who created him&#8221; (<a class="bibleref" title="Col 3:10" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Col%203.10/">Col 3:10</a>) both have reference to the individual believer. Thus Bruce says, &#8220;The new man who is created is the new personality that each believer becomes when he is reborn as a member of the new creation whose source of life is Christ.&#8221;<sup>8</sup> Putting off the old man and putting on the new are related to the teaching of the believer&#8217;s death and resurrection with Christ (<a class="bibleref" title="Rom 6:4-6" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Rom%206.4-6/">Rom 6:4-6</a>).<sup>9</sup> In codeath and coresurrection the individual&#8217;s identity is radically changed. The old &#8220;I&#8221; dies and the new &#8220;I&#8221; rises in newness of life (<a class="bibleref" title="Gal 2:20" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Gal%202.20/">Gal 2:20</a>).</p>
<p>These descriptions of the Christian clearly indicate a positive identity and refer not only to status but also to the nature of the believer. This conclusion is borne out by the fact that the apostolic exhortation to new ethical behavior is made directly on the basis of the believer&#8217;s new identity. The apostles were not grounding their hope for a new behavior simply on a new position or status, but on a new nature which can produce new actions. True, these actions are due to the life of God in the believer and are called &#8220;the fruit of the Spirit.&#8221; But at the same time they are the product of the believer even as the fruit of the vine is the fruit of the branches (<a class="bibleref" title="John 15:2-5,16" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/John%2015.2-5%2C16/">John 15:2-5,16</a>). The exhortations to new ethical life are based on the principle Jesus taught that &#8220;good fruit&#8221; is borne by &#8220;good trees&#8221; (Matt 7:17). The nature as well as the identity of the believer is therefore seen as primarily &#8220;good.&#8221;</p>
<p>These descriptions of the believer point in the direction of the root identity of the Christian as &#8220;a saint who sins,&#8221; rather than &#8220;a sinner who is saved.&#8221; But that is not the whole of the matter. Practical experience as well as biblical teaching still relate the believer to sin. Consideration of the identity of the believer therefore cannot avoid discussion of his relationship to sin.</p>
<p align="center"><strong>The Believer&#8217;s Relation to Sin</strong></p>
<p>Believers Still Sin</p>
<p>It is not difficult to convince most believers from Scripture as well as from experience that sin is still a part of their existence. They sometimes act carnally (<a class="bibleref" title="1 Cor 3:1-3" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/1%20Cor%203.1-3/">1 Cor 3:1-3</a>). The promise of continual cleansing of sin as they walk in the light (<a class="bibleref" title="1 John 1:7" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/1%20John%201.7/">1 John 1:7</a>) as well as the present tense used for the confession of sins (1:9 {<a class="bibleref" title="1 John 1:9" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/1%20John%201.9/">1 John 1:9</a>}) suggest that sin is continually present with believers. To say &#8220;we have no sin,&#8221; John wrote, is self-deception and impossible for believers (1:8 {<a class="bibleref" title="1 John 1:8" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/1%20John%201.8/">1 John 1:8</a>}). Although the personal identity of the believer is in Christ, and thus in the new man which is being transformed into His image, the manner of life of the old man remains a part of the believer&#8217;s experience. This is why Paul directed believers to put off the practices of the old man (<a class="bibleref" title="Eph 4:22" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Eph%204.22/">Eph 4:22</a>; <a class="bibleref" title="Col 3:8-9" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Col%203.8-9/">Col 3:8-9</a>).</p>
<p>Calvin&#8217;s statement of what Christians ought to be should convince any believer that he or she has not attained sinlessness. &#8220;Since all the capacities of our soul ought to be so filled with the love of God,&#8221; he said, &#8220;it is certain that this precept [to love God with all our heart, soul, and mind] is not fulfilled by those who can either retain in the heart a slight inclination or admit to the mind any thought at all that would lead them away from the love of God into vanity.&#8221;<sup>10</sup> &#8220;There remains in a regenerate man a moldering cinder of evil, from which desires continually leap forth to allure and spur him to commit sin.&#8221;<sup>11</sup></p>
<p>Does this true but rather bleak perspective make the identity of the believer a &#8220;sinner&#8221; as well as a &#8220;saint&#8221; so that he or she is actually both? Interestingly, although the New Testament gives extensive evidence that believers sin, it never clearly identifies believers as &#8220;sinners.&#8221; Paul&#8217;s reference to himself in which he declared, &#8220;I am foremost&#8221; of sinners is often raised to the contrary (<a class="bibleref" title="1 Tim 1:15" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/1%20Tim%201.15/">1 Tim 1:15</a>). Guthrie&#8217;s comment on Paul&#8217;s assertion is illustrative of a common understanding of Paul&#8217;s statement and what should be true of all believers. &#8220;Paul never got away from the fact that Christian salvation was intended for sinners, and the more he increased his grasp of the magnitude of God&#8217;s grace, the more he deepened the consciousness of his own naturally sinful state, until he could write of whom I am chief (pro,tos).&#8221;<sup>12</sup></p>
<p>Despite the use of the present tense by the apostle, several things make it preferable to see his description of himself as &#8220;the foremost of sinners&#8221; as a reference to his preconversion activity as an opponent of the gospel. First, the reference to himself as &#8220;sinner&#8221; is in support of the statement that &#8220;Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners&#8221; (v. 15 {<a class="bibleref" title="1 Tim 1:15" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/1%20Tim%201.15/">1 Tim 1:15</a>}). The reference to &#8220;the ungodly and sinners&#8221; a few verses earlier (v. 9 {<a class="bibleref" title="1 Tim 1:9" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/1%20Tim%201.9/">1 Tim 1:9</a>}) along with the other New Testament uses of the term &#8220;sinners&#8221; for those who are outside of salvation<sup>13</sup> shows that he was referring to &#8220;sinners&#8221; whom Christ came to save rather than believers who yet sinned.</p>
<p>Second, Paul&#8217;s reference to himself as a &#8220;sinner&#8221; is followed by the statement, &#8220;And yet I found [past tense] mercy&#8221; (v. 16 {<a class="bibleref" title="1 Tim 1:16" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/1%20Tim%201.16/">1 Tim 1:16</a>}), clearly pointing to the past occasion of his conversion. Paul was grateful for God&#8217;s mercy toward him, &#8220;the foremost of sinners.&#8221; A similar present evaluation of himself based on the past is seen when the apostle wrote, &#8220;I am [present tense] the least of the apostles, who am not fit to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God&#8221; (1 Cor</p>
<p>15:9). Because of his past action, Paul considered himself unworthy of what he presently was by God&#8217;s grace and mercy, an apostle who was &#8220;not in the least inferior to the most eminent apostles&#8221; (<a class="bibleref" title="2 Cor 11:5" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/2%20Cor%2011.5/">2 Cor 11:5</a>; cf. 12:11 {<a class="bibleref" title="2 Cor 12:11" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/2%20Cor%2012.11/">2 Cor 12:11</a>}).</p>
<p>Declaring that he was &#8220;the foremost of sinners,&#8221; the apostle also declared that Christ had strengthened him for the ministry, having considered him &#8220;faithful&#8221; or &#8220;trustworthy&#8221; for it, to which He had called him (<a class="bibleref" title="1 Tim 1:2" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/1%20Tim%201.2/">1 Tim 1:2</a>). As Knight concludes, &#8220;Paul regards this classification of himself as `foremost of sinners&#8217; as still valid (eijmi, present tense); though he is fully forgiven, regarded as faithful, and put into service, he is still the notorious opponent who is so received.&#8221;<sup>14</sup> Thus the apostle was not applying the appellation &#8220;sinner&#8221; to himself as a believer, but rather in remembrance of what he was before Christ took hold of him.</p>
<p>James&#8217; reference to turning &#8220;a sinner&#8221; from the error of his ways is also best seen as bringing someone into salvation rather than restoring a genuine believer to repentance (<a class="bibleref" title="James 5:19-20" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/James%205.19-20/">James 5:19-20</a>).</p>
<p>Though the erring one is described as one &#8220;among you,&#8221; the</p>
<p>resultant outcome of saving the soul of the turned &#8220;sinner&#8221; from &#8220;death,&#8221; which is most likely spiritual death, suggests that the person was not a Christian.<sup>15</sup> Scripture surely teaches that unbelievers can be &#8220;among&#8221; the saints (cf. <a class="bibleref" title="1 John 2:19" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/1%20John%202.19/">1 John 2:19</a>).</p>
<p>This is not to say that in the Scriptures believers did not see themselves as sinful. Confrontation with the righteousness and holiness of God frequently brought deep acknowledgment of an individual&#8217;s own sinful condition. Peter&#8217;s recognition of himself before the Lord as a &#8220;sinful man&#8221; is not uncommon among the saints (<a class="bibleref" title="Luke 5:8" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Luke%205.8/">Luke 5:8</a>; cf. <a class="bibleref" title="Gen 18:27" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Gen%2018.27/">Gen 18:27</a>; <a class="bibleref" title="Job 42:6" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Job%2042.6/">Job 42:6</a>; <a class="bibleref" title="Isa 6:5" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Isa%206.5/">Isa 6:5</a>; <a class="bibleref" title="Dan 9:4-20" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Dan%209.4-20/">Dan 9:4-20</a>). The believer is sinful, but Scripture does not seem to define his identity as a &#8220;sinner.&#8221;</p>
<p>Believers Are Opposed to Sin</p>
<p>Instead of being identified as a &#8220;sinner,&#8221; the real person or &#8220;I&#8221; of the believer is opposed to sin. Before salvation the &#8220;I&#8221; or the &#8220;ego&#8221; of the believer, like the &#8220;I&#8221; of all &#8220;sinners,&#8221; was in radical rebellion against the true God. Now the &#8220;I&#8221; of the believer is on God&#8217;s side seeking to mortify the rebellion that is still present in the believer. Several truths combine to teach this new identity of the believer and his change of nature.</p>
<p>First, death and resurrection with Christ severed the believer from sin. The believer&#8217;s participation in Christ&#8217;s death and resurrection is a way in which Paul expressed the change that takes place when one becomes a Christian. According to the most extensive explanation of this truth in <a class="bibleref" title="Romans 6" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Romans%206/">Romans 6</a>, the primary significance of this transaction is the change of dominions over the believer. Christ&#8217;s death and resurrection signify (a) death to the old age of sin and its dominion and (b) resurrection to a new sphere ruled by God. These objective realities take place in Christ as the Head of the new humanity much like His actions as the Head of the corporate &#8220;new man.&#8221;<sup>16</sup> But also like the transfer from the &#8220;old&#8221; to the &#8220;new&#8221; man, Christ&#8217;s death and resurrection apply subjectively to the person of the believer who participates with Him.</p>
<p>In <a class="bibleref" title="Rom 6" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Rom%206/">Rom 6</a> Paul is not simply concerned with the two dominions, but with the decisive transfer of the believer from the one dominion to the other. The believers were enslaved to sin, but now they stand under a new master. This change has taken place through dying with Christ&#8230;. Dying with Christ means dying to the powers of the old aeon and entry into a new life under a new power.<sup>17</sup></p>
<p>The believers&#8217; union with Christ in His death and resurrection transforms them not just legally but also personally. As the person&#8217;s</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8221; previously had a nature that willingly chose to serve sin, now he or she is a new &#8220;I&#8221; who willingly chooses God. Paul&#8217;s testimony was that having been crucified with Christ, he now lived in such union with Him that his &#8220;I&#8221; could hardly be separated, not just legally but morally. Paul&#8217;s &#8220;I&#8221; was willingly united with Christ, who continually and willingly obeyed the Father&#8217;s will. As Bonar said, &#8220;The cross, then, makes us decided men. It brings both our hearts and our wills to the side of God.&#8221;<sup>18</sup></p>
<p>Second, the transformation of the believer in the change of dominions over him through dying and rising with Christ is further seen in the biblical concept of having a &#8220;new heart.&#8221; As Jewett explains, &#8220;A characteristic of the heart as the center of man is its inherent openness to outside impulses, its directionality, its propensity to give itself to a master and to live towards some desired goal.&#8221;<sup>19</sup> This characteristic stems from the fact that Christians as finite persons can live only in &#8220;radical dependence on otherness.&#8221;<sup>20</sup></p>
<p>Most significantly, as Jewett noted, what the heart takes in becomes its master, stamping the heart with its character. What truly determines the heart and consequently the person is therefore the nature of the desire of the heart. After defining the heart as &#8220;our center, our prefunctional root, &#8221; Kreeft adds, &#8220;at this center we decide the meaning of our lives, for our deepest desires constitute ourselves, decide our identity.&#8221;<sup>21</sup></p>
<p>According to Scripture the deepest desire of the believer has been changed. This truth is seen in the apostle&#8217;s words to the Galatians: &#8220;And because you are sons, God has sent forth the Spirit of His Son into our hearts, crying, `Abba! Father!&#8217;&#8221; (4:6 {<a class="bibleref" title="Gal 4:6" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Gal%204.6/">Gal 4:6</a>}). The cry, &#8220;Abba! Father!&#8221; is typical of a son and represents the believer&#8217;s most basic relationship with God. This cry is determined by the presence of the Spirit who brings Christ the Son into the center of one&#8217;s personality to live within his or her heart. &#8220;The center of man is thus his heart; the heart&#8217;s intentionality [or desire] is determined by the power which rules it. In the case of Christian[s], the direction of the heart&#8217;s intentionality is determined by Christ&#8217;s Spirit.&#8221;<sup>22</sup></p>
<p>The desire or intentionality of the human heart is in reality its love. As Augustine noted, love is what moves an individual. A person goes where his love moves him. His identity is determined by his love. The identity of the believer is thus a person who basically loves God rather than sin.</p>
<p>The presence of sin in the life of the believer indicates that remnants of the old disordered love of self remain. But those remnants now stand at the periphery of the real core of the person who is redeemed, God-oriented, and thus bent toward righteousness in his nature. &#8220;God begins his good work in us, therefore, by arousing love and desire and zeal for righteousness in our hearts; or, to speak more correctly, by bending, forming, and directing, our hearts to righteousness.&#8221;<sup>23</sup></p>
<p>This core of the new person is often not evident in conscious life, but it is nevertheless the dominating aspect of his being. As Delitzsch notes, there is a kind of will of nature that is basically self-consciously unreflected. This deep will of nature precedes the conscious actions of the person. The will of the believer has been changed through regeneration despite the fact that remnants of the old life still remain and continue to express themselves. The action of regeneration is directed not so much to &#8220;our occasional will, as to the substance of our will,</p>
<p>i.e. to the nature and essence of our spiritual being.&#8221;<sup>24</sup> Thus the regenerate individual in the depth of his heart is changed; he has a nature oriented toward God. Although the person can still sin, this sin is related to a more surface level of his being which can still act contrary to the real person of the heart. But these surface actions do not change the real nature of the heart and thus the person&#8217;s identity. The relationship of the real core nature of the human heart to its more surface activities is seen in Pedersen&#8217;s discussion of the &#8220;soul&#8221; or what is perhaps better termed the heart.</p>
<p>It [the soul] is partly an entirety in itself and partly forms an entirety with others. What entireties it is merged in, depends upon the constant interchange of life.</p>
<p>Every time the soul merges into a new entirety, new centres of action are formed in it; but they are created by temporary situations, only lie on the surface and quickly disappear. There are other entireties to which the soul belongs, and which live in it with quite a different depth and firmness, because they make the very nucleus of the soul. Thus there may be a difference between the momentary and the stable points of gravity in the soul. But none of the momentary centres of action can ever annul or counteract those which lie deeper.</p>
<p>The deepest-lying contents of the soul are, it is true, always there, but they do not always make themselves equally felt.<sup>25</sup></p>
<p>This understanding of the human heart helps explain the practice of sin in the believer&#8217;s life as well as the &#8220;good&#8221; in the life of the unbelieving sinner. The true nature of the person does not always express itself fully in actual life. But the basic identity of the individual is still there, and in the case of the believer it is positive.</p>
<p>Third, this same truth is seen in the positive nature of the ego or &#8220;I&#8221; of <a class="bibleref" title="Romans 7:14-25" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Romans%207.14-25/">Romans 7:14-25</a>. Paul&#8217;s description of the &#8220;I&#8221; in this passage suggests that it refers to someone who has experienced the regenerative grace of God. Also this person is viewed in relation to the law of God apart from the empowerment of the Spirit of God. It could thus have reference to a Christian living according to the flesh in his own strength,<sup>26</sup> or more probably to the experience of the pious Jew living under the Mosaic Law viewed from a Christian perspective.<sup>27</sup></p>
<p>Of interest in this passage is the description of the &#8220;I&#8221; which is solidly on God&#8217;s side. If what is said of this &#8220;I&#8221; or ego could refer to a pious Jew living under the Old Covenant, how much more would it be fitting for the believer of the New Covenant as part of the new creation through union with Christ. Considering the actions of the &#8220;I,&#8221; all three dimensions normally seen as constituting personhood, that is, thought, emotion, and will, are all oriented toward God and His righteous law. Regarding the element of thought, the apostle wrote in 7:15 {<a class="bibleref" title="Rom 7:15" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Rom%207.15/">Rom 7:15</a>}, &#8220;For that which I am doing, I do not understand,&#8221; or perhaps better with Cranfield, &#8220;I do not acknowledge&#8221; or &#8220;approve.&#8221;<sup>28</sup> In other words his thinking was opposed to his action of sin. This is also seen in verse 25 {<a class="bibleref" title="Rom 7:25" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Rom%207.25/">Rom 7:25</a>}: &#8220;I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but with my flesh the law of sin.&#8221;</p>
<p>His emotion is likewise seen to be on God&#8217;s side in opposition to sin. &#8220;I am doing the very thing I hate&#8221; (v. 15 {<a class="bibleref" title="Rom 7:15" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Rom%207.15/">Rom 7:15</a>}). As Dunn puts it, &#8220;he wholly detests and abhors what he does.&#8221;<sup>29</sup> If hatred is the opposite of love, then his love is directed toward righteousness. A further expression of emotion is indicated in verse 22 {<a class="bibleref" title="Rom 7:22" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Rom%207.22/">Rom 7:22</a>}. &#8220;I joyfully concur with the law of God in the inner man.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also his will or volition is for God and against sin. &#8220;What I want [or `will,' qevlw] to do,&#8221; Paul wrote, &#8220;I do not do. I have the desire [qevlein] to do what is good&#8221; (vv. 15,18 {<a class="bibleref" title="Rom 7" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Rom%207/">Rom 7</a>}, NIV). The verb qevlein is used seven times in the passage, the last when he described himself as &#8220;the one who wishes to do good&#8221; (v. 21 {<a class="bibleref" title="Rom 7:21" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Rom%207.21/">Rom 7:21</a>}).</p>
<p>These descriptions of the personal attributes of the &#8220;I&#8221; clearly define it as one with a positive nature. But more than this, the apostle went so far as to absolve, as it were, the &#8220;I&#8221; from sinning: &#8220;if I do the very thing I do not wish to do no longer am I the one doing it, but sin which indwells me&#8221; (vv. 16-17 {<a class="bibleref" title="Rom 7" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Rom%207/">Rom 7</a>}; cf. the same thought in v. 20 {<a class="bibleref" title="Rom 7:20" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Rom%207.20/">Rom 7:20</a>}).</p>
<p>Since the same passage clearly shows the &#8220;I&#8221; as the subject of sinful actions as well as being opposed to sin, the apostle was not trying to evade the personal responsibility of the &#8220;I&#8221; in sin. But when the &#8220;I&#8221; is related to sin, it is never described in terms of the functions of personhood. There are no equal statements of thought, emotion, and will on the side of sin. Paul did not say, &#8220;I want to do the will of God, but I also want to sin.&#8221; Nor did he say, &#8220;I love the law of God, but I also love sin.&#8221; Thus the &#8220;I&#8221; that is positively oriented toward God is the person in the deepest sense of his personhood or identity. He is the &#8220;I&#8221; of the &#8220;inner man&#8221; (v. 22 {<a class="bibleref" title="Rom 7:22" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Rom%207.22/">Rom 7:22</a>}), the &#8220;I&#8221; that is the subject of the &#8220;mind&#8221; (v. 25 {<a class="bibleref" title="Rom 7:25" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Rom%207.25/">Rom 7:25</a>}).</p>
<p>The assertion that it is no longer &#8220;I&#8221; but sin that actually does the sinning is similar to other apparently contradictory statements of the apostle when he was referring to the dominating power that mastered him: &#8220;it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live&#8221; (<a class="bibleref" title="Gal 2:20" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Gal%202.20/">Gal 2:20</a>); &#8220;I labored even more than all of them, yet not I, but the grace of God with me&#8221; (<a class="bibleref" title="1 Cor 15:10" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/1%20Cor%2015.10/">1 Cor 15:10</a>; cf. Matt 10:20). In these statements Paul was not intending to disavow responsibility, but to affirm the existence in himself of a power that exercised a dominating influence on him. The real person of the believer willingly assents to this dominating power, but in the case of sin as in <a class="bibleref" title="Romans 7" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Romans%207/">Romans 7</a> the real &#8220;I&#8221; opposes it and can thus be set against it. Here the ego or real &#8220;I&#8221; in the believer is viewed as so opposed to sin that they can be isolated from each other. And the actual committing of sin, instead of being the action of the ego can be regarded as the action of the sin that enslaves the ego contrary to its will. As Delitzsch says, &#8220;the Ego is no longer one with sin-it is free from it; sin resides in such a man still, only as a foreign power.&#8221;<sup>30</sup></p>
<p><a class="bibleref" title="Romans 7" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Romans%207/">Romans 7</a> thus presents the real person of the believer as positive. To be sure, he commits sin both in thought and act but he also does righteousness. Sin and righteousness, however, do not characterize the real person of the believer in the same way. The believer is capable of experiencing a double servitude expressed in the apostle&#8217;s words, &#8220;on the one hand I myself with my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin&#8221; (v. 25 {<a class="bibleref" title="Rom 7:25" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Rom%207.25/">Rom 7:25</a>}).<sup>31</sup> But as this statement, along with the entire passage, indicates, the real person of the believer willingly serves God.</p>
<p>The description of the believer in <a class="bibleref" title="Romans 7" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Romans%207/">Romans 7</a> thus fits the same picture of the believer seen in the teaching of his death and resurrection with Christ and his new heart. The Christian has been radically changed in his relationship to sin and righteousness from what he was before salvation. And this change is more than simply positional or judicial consisting in the forgiveness of sin and the imputation of righteousness. It includes a radical change of nature. The Christian is a new person. He has a new heart which is the real identity of the person.</p>
<p align="center"><strong>Conclusion</strong></p>
<p>The full picture of the believer&#8217;s relationship to sin and righteousness is obviously beyond the scope of this study. But when the question of his identity is posed-is the Christian a saved sinner or a saint who sins?-the Scriptures seem to point to the latter.</p>
<p>There is truth in the following explanation of so-called &#8220;miserable-sinner Christianity&#8221; expressed by Luther:</p>
<p>A Christian is at the same time a sinner and a saint; he is at once bad and good. For in our own person we are in sin,</p>
<p>and in our own name we are sinners. But Christ brings us another name in which there is forgiveness of sin, so that for His sake our sin is forgiven and done away. Both then are true. There are sins and yet there are no sins. thou standest there for God not in thy name but in Christ&#8217;s name; thou dost adorn thyself with grace and righteousness although in thine own eyes and in thine own person, thou art a miserable sinner.<sup>32</sup></p>
<p>Christians are sinners who are forgiven. But there is more to it than that. They are regenerated persons whose root core has been changed. They are forgiven, but also their heart-the spring of their life and their true identity-is new.</p>
<p>To confess as present-day Anglicans do<sup>33</sup> that &#8220;there is no health in us&#8221; or that &#8220;all my nature and being is deserving of punishment,&#8221; as also stated in the old German Lutheran confession, is contrary to the biblical picture of the believer.</p>
<p>All the apostles&#8217; ethical imperatives are addressed to</p>
<p>believers on the premise that their natures are now on God&#8217;s side and have a new ability to obey God. The very assumption that Christians should grow demonstrates a belief that the positive dominates over the negative in their being. For a Christian to grow, there must be a stronger inclination toward God than toward sin.</p>
<p>Although the terminology &#8220;miserable sinner&#8221; does not adequately define the true identity of the believer, several</p>
<p>truths at the heart of so-called &#8220;miserable-sinner Christianity&#8221; must be retained even when viewing the believer as a &#8220;saint who sins.&#8221;</p>
<p>First, despite the truth that the believer&#8217;s heart and thus his or her identity have been transformed to an orientation toward God and His righteousness, one&#8217;s acceptance before God is only on the basis of Christ&#8217;s righteousness. One&#8217;s salvation is complete in Christ&#8217;s righteousness alone.</p>
<p>Second, the believer who sins must experience misery over sin. If a persons&#8217; affections have truly been changed so that he or she is now on God&#8217;s side, then that one must hate sin and experience a godly sorrow over what grieves and wounds the One who loves believers deeply. Fisher&#8217;s description of sorrow over sin should be the experience of all believers.</p>
<p>When faith hath bathed a man&#8217;s heart in the blood of Christ, it is so mollified that it generally dissolves into tears of godly sorrow; so that if Christ turn and look upon him, O then, with Peter he goes out and weeps bitterly. And this is true gospel mourning; this is right evangelical repenting.<sup>34</sup></p>
<p>Third, even though God in His grace has created in believers</p>
<p>the germ of a new nature which gives them a new identity, their focus in life must be not on themselves, but on Christ. Dying and rising with Christ means the end of self-trust. Therefore, even though they are new persons, their source of life and growth is not in their own identity but in Christ. Their focus must be on Him and not on their own new identity. In Him they are new creatures (<a class="bibleref" title="2 Cor 5:17" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/2%20Cor%205.17/">2 Cor 5:17</a>).</p>
<p>_______________________________</p>
<p>1 Benjamin Breckenridge Warfield, Perfectionism, 2 vols. (New York: Oxford University Press, l931), 1:113-301.</p>
<p>2 Ibid, 115. The following quotations expressing the &#8220;miserable-sinner&#8221; concept are cited by Warfield (ibid., 118-19, 123).</p>
<p>3 Cited by Warfield (ibid., 128).</p>
<p>4 Neil Anderson, Victory Over the Darkness (Ventura, CA; Regal, 1990), 44-45. The word &#8220;occasionally&#8221; should be omitted from Anderson&#8217;s statement as he has indicated to this writer in personal conversation that it was not his intention to include this word.</p>
<p>5 Leon Morris, The First {1 Thess} and Second {2 Thess} Epistles to the Thessalonians, rev. ed. (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1991), 155.</p>
<p>6 Peter T. O&#8217;Brien, Colossians, Philemon, Word Biblical Commentary (Waco, TX: Word, 1982), 190-91; and Andrew T. Lincoln, Ephesians, Word Biblical Commentary (Dallas, TX: Word, 1990), 287.</p>
<p>7 Lincoln, Ephesians, 285.</p>
<p>8 E. K. Simpson and F. F. Bruce, Commentary on the Epistles to the Ephesians and the Colossians (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1957), 273. O&#8217;Brien similarly says that in addition to a reference to the new corporate humanity, the &#8220;new man&#8221; designates &#8220;the new nature which the Colossians had put on and which was continually being renewed&#8221; (Colossians, Philemon, 190).</p>
<p>9 Robert C. Tannehill, Dying and Rising with Christ (Berlin:Töpelmann, 1967), 52; and A. Van Roon, The Authenticity of Ephesians (Leiden: Brill, 1974), 336-37.</p>
<p>10 John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, 3.3.11; cf. 3.12.1.</p>
<p>11 Ibid., 3.3.10.</p>
<p>12 Donald Guthrie, The Pastoral Epistles (London: Tyndale, 1957), 65 (italics his).</p>
<p>13 Karl Heinrich Rengstorf, &#8220;aJmartwloj&#8221;,&#8221; in Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, 1:327-28; and George W. Knight, The Pastoral Epistles (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1992), 101.</p>
<p>14 Knight, The Pastoral Epistles, 102.</p>
<p>15 Peter H. Davids, The Epistle of James (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1982), 200.</p>
<p>16 &#8220;When Paul speaks of dying and rising with Christ, he is referring to Christ&#8217;s death and resurrection as eschatological events. As such, they concern the old and new aeons. Through this death and resurrection the believers are freed from the old aeon and the new aeon is founded&#8230;. Because the existence of all within an aeon is based upon and determined by the founding events, the whole of the aeon shares in these events&#8221; (Tannehill, Dying and Rising with Christ, 39). On the similar significance of dying and rising with Christ and stripping off the old man and putting on the new, see ibid., 52.</p>
<p>17 Ibid., 21.</p>
<p>18 Horatius Bonar, God&#8217;s Way of Holiness (New York: Carter &amp; Bros., 1865), 108 (italics his).</p>
<p>19 Robert Jewett, Paul&#8217;s Anthropological Terms (Leiden: Brill, 1971), 313. John Laidlaw describes the heart as &#8220;the work-place for the personal appropriation and assimilation of every influence&#8221; (The Bible Doctrine of Man [Edinburgh: Clark, 1895], 122).</p>
<p>20 Andrew Tallon, &#8220;A Response to Fr. Dulles,&#8221; in Theology and Discovery: Essays in Honor of Karl Rahner, ed. William J. Kelly (Milwaukee: Marquette University Press, 1980), 37.</p>
<p>21 Peter Kreeft, Heaven: The Heart&#8217;s Deepest Longing (San Francisco: Ignatius, 1989), 45.</p>
<p>22 Jewett, Paul&#8217;s Anthropological Terms, 322-23.</p>
<p>23 Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, 2.3.6.</p>
<p>24 Franz Delitzsch, A System of Biblical Psychology (reprint, Grand Rapids; Baker, 1966), 416.</p>
<p>25 Pedersen, Israel: Its Life and Culture, 2 vols. (London: Oxford University Press, 1973), 1:166.</p>
<p>26 James D. B. Dunn, &#8220;<a class="bibleref" title="Romans 7:14-25" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Romans%207.14-25/">Romans 7:14-25</a> in the Theology of Paul,&#8221;Theologische Zeitschrift 31 (September-October, 1975): 257-73.</p>
<p>27 For a brief sketch of this latter interpretation, see N. T. Wright, The Climax of the Covenant (Minneapolis: Fortress, 1992), 196-200.</p>
<p>28 C. E. B. Cranfield, A Critical and Exegetical Commentary on the Epistle to the Romans, International Critical Commentary, 2 vols. (Edinburgh: Clark, 1975), 1:358-59.</p>
<p>29 James D. B. Dunn, <a class="bibleref" title="Romans 1-8" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Romans%201-8/">Romans 1-8</a> {<a class="bibleref" title="Rom 8" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Rom%208/">Rom 8</a>}, Word Biblical Commentary (Dallas, TX: Word, 1988), 389.</p>
<p>30 Delitzsch, A System of Biblical Psychology, 438. Delitzsch gives a helpful description of the interaction between the believing ego opposed to sin and the power of sin. Referring to the sin of unchastity, he says sin &#8220;is possible only when the might of temptation succeeds either in overmastering, or even in interesting, the Ego of the man. At times there are mingled in the range of man&#8217;s thoughts impure thoughts which he acknowledges as not less thought by his Ego than the pure ones which it opposed to them in order to dislodge them. Sometimes temptation succeeds in drawing in the man&#8217;s Ego into itself; but in the midst of the sinful act, the man draws it back from it, full of loathing for it. Sometimes, moreover, the Ego, in order to complete the sinful act unrestrainedly, is voluntarily absorbed into unconsciousness, and does not until after its completion return in horror to recollection of itself; and the spirit with shame becomes conscious of its having been veiled by its own responsibility&#8221; (ibid.).</p>
<p>31 J. Knox Chamblin, Paul and the Self (Grand Rapids: Baker, 1993), 173-74.</p>
<p>32 Martin Luther, Werke, Erlangen ed., 2.197; cited by Warfield, Perfectionism, 1:116.</p>
<p>33 J. I. Packer, Keep in Step with the Spirit (Old Tappan, NJ: Revell, 1984), 123.</p>
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		<title>A Short Defense of Christianity (to myself)</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Michael Patton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I see myself as an evangelical (lower case) Christian (uppercase) apologist. I think every Christian is an apologist to some degree. No, not a &#8220;professional apologist&#8221; like Rob Bowman, William Lane Craig, or Mike Licona, but we all have formulated some degree of warrant or justification for our faith. Just like everyone is a theologian, every [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see myself as an evangelical (lower case) Christian (uppercase) apologist. I think every Christian is an apologist to some degree. No, not a &#8220;professional apologist&#8221; like Rob Bowman, William Lane Craig, or Mike Licona, but we all have formulated some degree of warrant or justification for our faith. Just like everyone is a theologian, every one is also an apologist. But this does not mean that we are <em>good</em> apologists!</p>
<p>Normally apologetics is a theological discipline which seeks to defend the faith to those who are <em>outside</em> our belief system. However, my fascination with apologetics is very personal. It starts with me and often ends with me. What do I mean? I suppose I mean that I engage in apologetics very selfishly. I seek to defend the faith <em>to myself</em>. I am continually wrestling with issues of faith and doubt that are spinning webs in my mind. Therefore, whenever I write about a topic that is docked in apologetics bay, it is normally a subject that I am either currently wrestling with or have wrestled with in the past. I often envy those who <em>just believe</em>. Sometimes I wish that I could flip a switch and turn the critical part of my brain off. It would allow me to get more sleep, that is for sure!</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong. Most of the big issues (what Paul Copan just called the &#8220;main things&#8221;) are pretty well settled in my thinking. I have the battle scars to prove it. However, there are a lot of things that I am not settled on&#8230;secondary issues, mainly. For those things I have yet to wrestle with in a significant way, I usually put a place holder sign on the door entitled &#8221;I will get to you later&#8221; or &#8220;what <em>he</em> believes.&#8221; I have a few people in my life whom I respect and trust so deeply that their view of an issue is enough for me. In such cases I am content with &#8220;referred belief.&#8221; Why? Because I will never be able to become an expert in everything. As a matter of fact, there will be very few things that I will ever be able to speak about with much personal authority. And there is just enough postmodern blood in me to realize that the human aspiration for exhaustive and authoritative knowledge on <em>any</em> one thing is simply self-deception. None of us are really &#8220;experts&#8221; on much. None of us are that smart. We never will be. I don&#8217;t care how many PhDs someone has, how many articles they have writen, or what school they teach at, the human capacity to <em>truly</em> understand what we are talking about is not anything to write home about. We are finite. However, this does not mean we throw in the intellectual towel. There are things about which we can have a great degree of assurance.</p>
<p>My personal apologetics normally takes a few steps that asks some very basic questions. While I believe that these steps can and should benefit everyone, I know that each of us comes to our faith in very nuanced ways. Your reasons for your faith may not parallel my reasons. But that is okay. Here are the big issues that I start with when my faith is stumbling:</p>
<p>1. Does God exist?<br />
2. Has he communicated to us?<br />
3. What has he said?</p>
<p>The personal avenue that I take (from an intellectual standpoint) when it comes to my Christianity breaks this down and looks at four things:</p>
<p>1. The existence of God<br />
2. The reliability of the New Testament<br />
3. The resurrection of Christ<br />
4. The deity of Christ</p>
<p><strong>1. The Existence of God</strong></p>
<p>A transcendent and personal being is necessary to explain existence as we see it. Something does not come from nothing (<em>ex nihilo nihil fit</em>, or &#8220;out of nothing, nothing comes&#8221;). Since something exists, a transcendent force is necessary to explain this something. At this point I call God a &#8220;force&#8221; since we have yet to establish personality. This force must be above and beyond time, space, and matter. If he were not, we would be left with the regression of trying to explain what created the force that created us, <em>ad infinitum</em>. You know, the &#8220;If God made everything, what made God?&#8221; argument. However, if something exists, there must be an <em>ultimate</em> explanation. Call this force the &#8220;unmoved mover,&#8221; the &#8220;undesigned designer,&#8221; or the &#8220;uncaused cause.&#8221; Whatever one names it, it has to be <em>a se</em> (Latin &#8220;of itself&#8221;) and transcendent to all the laws of nature so as to avoid the cause and effect relationship. Being outside of time, this force does not need an explanation, but is itself the explanation for all things. For me to deny such a force is completely irrational. A universe such as ours without a creator is as illogical as a four-sided triangle. It just cannot be.<span id="more-9965"></span></p>
<p>This transcendent force must be personal for two reasons: 1) Personality/consciousness/self-awareness cannot come from non-personality. Being cannot come from non-being. Since mankind has personality/consciousness/self-awareness, that from which we came must share the same attributes (though to an infinitely greater degree). 2) Creation itself demands an act of the will. If this creative force did not have a will (an essential component of personality), creation would never have had <em>a time</em> when it came into existence. In other words, creation would have never been created or it would have always been being created. Those are the only two options. Why? Because there is no cause and effect relationship which, at some point in the finite past, could have compelled a force without a will or personality to create. Why create now rather than ten trillion years ago? Therefore, creation must have been a willful act sometime in the finite past. So we have a creator who is a being whose existence and personhood are both warranted and necessary. This is why we sometimes call God the &#8220;Necessary Being.&#8221; God, as I am speaking of him now, is not &#8220;that which we worship or give ultimate allegiance to,&#8221; but the necessary explanation for all of existence. Due to this, God must be one in essence. If his ontology (essential being or &#8220;stuff&#8221;) consisted of a plurality, then his essence would demand a transcendent explanation for its existence.</p>
<p>There. I have one God. But I don&#8217;t yet have the <em>Christian</em> God.</p>
<p><strong>2. Reliability of the New Testament Manuscripts</strong></p>
<p>If God exists, it is perfectly reasonable to assume that God has communicated to his creation. At this point, I look into human history to see if there is any evidence that this creator God has communicated with mankind. Of course, communication neither adds anything to, nor takes anything away from, the necessary existence of this transcendent being. Neither does the way he decides to communicate or how often this communication comes. All I am saying is that if God exists, then we have good reason to look for and, if necessary, excavate this communication.</p>
<p>First, I believe that God&#8217;s creation itself communicates information about God. I think there is much knowledge we can gain about God&#8217;s personality through creation (God is great, smart, powerful, and organized) and our conscious (God is moral, righteous, and possesses endearing emotions). However, this communication is not very specific and leaves some serious questions unanswered such as, &#8220;Why are we here?&#8221;, &#8220;Is there purpose?&#8221;, and &#8220;Is there something for us beyond this life?&#8221;</p>
<p>Christianity claims that God has communicated in history. Christianity is the only religion whose basic foundation is built on falsifiable historical events that communicate a specific and compelling message. Therefore, when I look across the spectrum of religious claims to &#8220;God knowledge,&#8221; I don&#8217;t find much worth pursuing in other religions. Most other religions claim communication from God coming very obscurely through individuals who have private dreams, angelic encounters, and/or ideas. I am entirely too skeptical to take seriously such subjective claims. They are too easily made up or mistaken and are not testable in any way. However, Christianity has foundational truth claims that are rooted in history. The main events which establish or demolish the Christian faith are claimed to have actually happened in history, in the public eye. Therefore, Christianity not only allows for but demands a historical approach to establish its warrant.</p>
<p>I have used these graphics before, but I think they contain the essence of what I mean.</p>
<p><img src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/How-Christianity-Started-final.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p><img src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/How-Other-Religions-Started.jpg" alt="" /></p>
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<p>The central historic events that I look to are the life, death, and resurrection of a man named Jesus from Nazareth. If the stories told about him (most importantly, the story about his resurrection) prove to be true, then I have good reason to believe that God has communicated most directly though him.</p>
<p>But in order to get to Jesus, I have to go through the source documents which tell the Jesus story. We call this the New Testament canon. Now when I am trying to establish my faith, there is no reason to call these documents the &#8220;New Testament.&#8221; That name carries too much religious baggage. It is best for me to look at these as twenty-seven independent (to some degree) source documents. While theologically, I believe these documents are the inspired, inerrant word of God, all I need right now is for them to be <em>generally</em> reliable historic documents.</p>
<p>The most important of these twenty-seven documents are those we call Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John (the Gospels). We have enough manuscript evidence to date these documents fairly early, at least in the first century and less than a generation from when the Jesus story took place. This, along with the other documents of the New Testament and the writings of other Christians in the first century, allow me to be assured that these documents are close enough to the events they describe to be taken seriously.</p>
<p><strong>3. The Resurrection of Jesus</strong></p>
<p>From an apologetics standpoint, the most significant event to which these documents attest is the resurrection of Jesus. They claim that Jesus had a short ministry which ended when he was executed on a cross. While they speak of many of his miracles and give much attestation to his teaching, they all claim that shortly after his death he rose from the gave. This resurrection vindicated his claims to have communication from God.</p>
<p>Again, this is very significant. If they only claimed that he was a man of profound teaching and performed some miracles, I don&#8217;t think I would explore Jesus much further, much less devote my life to him. His resurrection is central to my faith. It not only establishes what he said to be true, but it creates purpose, destiny, and hope. My connection to God does not end with the resurrection, but it starts there and is intrinsically tied to it. All my theological dominoes fall from here.</p>
<p>Now, there are certain things that I would look for and expect if the resurrection of Christ actually took place. I will only name a few for the sake of brevity. I would look for evidence of historicity in the accounts which tell of this event, not the least of which an explicit or implicit claim to historicity (as opposed to myth or parable). Historic verification can come in many ways, but for an event of this magnitude (the omnipotent God sending his Son into the world so that many may believe in him and have eternal life) you would not expect these things to be done in secret. Therefore, I am encouraged to believe more when I see details like specific times, dates, places, and people provided. These details give the events in question falsifiability, by placing the events in historical settings. If everything happened in one man&#8217;s living room, a cave, or an unknown city, they would be nearly impossible to verify. But these documents tell of a <em>public</em> ministry, <em>public</em> death, and <em>public</em> resurrection. What I mean by &#8220;public&#8221; resurrection is that it is stated that Christ&#8217;s tomb was empty and that he subsequently appeared to many followers, showing himself alive.</p>
<p>I am also encouraged by the historical nature of the narratives themselves. The four Gospels tell the same story, with some variations. These variations never disturb the main events, but complement each other in many ways. As well, there are many internal marks of historicity in the documents themselves. Some were written to specific groups of people. Some to individuals. Luke wrote his account to an otherwise obscure man named Theophilus. They contain just enough incidental details to make it harder to believe someone (or four someones) made the story up.</p>
<p>As well, there is no discernible profitable motive for someone to make up such a story in the first-century world. The crucified-messiah-rose-from-the-grave story is not the type of event one would fabricate, for it held no appeal for the Jews or Greeks. The Jews could not fathom a messiah hung on a tree, much less that same messiah telling his followers to spread his message to the Greeks. And the furthest thing from the aspirations of the Greeks was the resurrection of the body. It was the last story anyone would make up in that culture.</p>
<p>As well, the Gospels themselves did not identify their writers. If the writers were making this story up, why not fabricate a credible source? Why leave it blank? Falsely attributing a writing to another, more credible, source was on par for the culture of the day (pseudoepigrapha). Who would be more credible than the apostles of Christ? Yet the Gospels remained nameless (though early witnesses support the traditional view of authorship). Simply put, it is very hard to find evidence or rationale, internal or external, for the Jesus story to have been made up.</p>
<p>Finally, if the resurrection happened in the way these documents claim, one would expect there to be a tidal wave of impact. If all we had were these documents, without any immediate and lasting historical consequences, it would be hard to believe that a omnipotent sovereign God had intervened in history through the Jesus story. One would expect the resurrection event to immediately begin to evidence itself through the message being spread. And this is exactly what we find. Starting immediately after the resurrection, the &#8220;church&#8221; Jesus began through his resurrection has impacted the world in a significant way. People, cities, cultures, and eventually an empire were changed within just a few centuries after this event.</p>
<p>Could there be more evidence for the resurrection of Jesus? Definitely. Jesus could miraculously appear to every individual ever born since then and show them his raised body. However, what we have is exactly what I would expect to have if Christ rose from the grave and then ascended into heaven like the documents say. When I examine alternative explanations for the resurrection, I find myself having to take much greater leaps of faith than a simple belief that God raised Christ from the dead. I have often said that when I begin to doubt the resurrection of Jesus all I have to do is read detractors&#8217; alternative theories.</p>
<p>For this reason, I believe that God has communicated to us through Jesus Christ.</p>
<p><strong>4. The Deity of Jesus</strong></p>
<p>Finally, what did Christ say about God? The first three are significant apologetically to convince me that God not only exists, but has communicated to us most definitely through his &#8220;Son.&#8221; But now I must establish what that Son has communicated. First and foremost, Jesus communicated about Jesus. In the first century, Jesus became the central figure of the universe. Before this, we did not even know that God had a &#8220;Son.&#8221; Even now, we stumble to understand <em>exactly</em> what this means. Christ himself said that there is only one God (<a class="bibleref" title="Mark 12:29" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Mark%2012.29/">Mark 12:29</a>). Yet both by his words and his works, Christ claimed equality and oneness with God. The central message of the Christian faith is that Jesus is Messiah, King, Lord, and Savior.</p>
<p>His unique identity came at his miraculous conception as Mary, his mother, was told by an angel that she would bear a son through the Holy Spirit (Matt. 1:18; <a class="bibleref" title="Luke 1:35" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Luke%201.35/">Luke 1:35</a>). He was given a divine name (Matt. 1:23). Shepherds and wise men worshipped him as a baby (Matt. 2:11). Throughout his childhood, we see that his relationship with God transcended normal human experience. At the inauguration of his ministry, the Father spoke from heaven, informing us of Jesus&#8217; unique identity (Matt. 3:17). Throughout his ministry, he said and did things that evidenced his divine status:</p>
<ul>
<li>He forgives sins (<a class="bibleref" title="Luke 5:23" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Luke%205.23/">Luke 5:23</a>)</li>
<li>He promises blessings for those who are persecuted because of him (Matt. 5:11)</li>
<li>He says that he has not come to abolish the Law and Prophets. Could a mere human even suggest that he has? (Matt. 5:17)</li>
<li>He says that he determines who enters the Kingdom of Heaven (Matt. 7:21–23)</li>
<li>He teaches others to give up their lives to follow Him (Matt. 16:25)</li>
<li>He says that <em>he</em> will repay each person for what they have done (Matt. 16:27–28)</li>
<li>The basis of judgment will be man’s relationship to him (Matt. 25:31–46)</li>
<li>He speaks of “his angels” (Matt. 13:41; 16:27; 24:31)</li>
<li>The only thing the rich young ruler lacks for eternal life is to follow him (Matt. 19:16–21)</li>
<li>We are commanded to love Christ more than our own families (Matt. 10:37)</li>
<li>Eternal life depends on belief in  Father <em>and in Him</em> (<a class="bibleref" title="Jn. 17:3" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Jn.%2017.3/">Jn. 17:3</a>)</li>
</ul>
<p>I agree with C.S. Lewis: these are either the ravings of a madman &#8211; or Jesus was God. Even the Holy Spirit does not draw attention to himself, but points to Christ (<a class="bibleref" title="John 15:26; 16:13" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/John%2015.26%3B%2016.13/">John 15:26; 16:13</a>–14). At one point, Jesus openly proclaimed himself to be God and the leaders of the day were ready to stone him (<a class="bibleref" title="John 10:33" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/John%2010.33/">John 10:33</a>). The rest of the New Testament is filled with references to Christ&#8217;s deity (<a class="bibleref" title="John 1:1" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/John%201.1/">John 1:1</a> <a class="bibleref" title="Jn. 1:1, 18" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Jn.%201.1%2C%2018/">Jn. 1:1, 18</a> (not in King James Version), 8:58–59, 10:30–33, 20:28; <a class="bibleref" title="Acts 20:28" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Acts%2020.28/">Acts 20:28</a>; <a class="bibleref" title="Rom. 9:5; 2" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Rom.%209.5%3B%202/">Rom. 9:5; 2</a> <a class="bibleref" title="Thes. 1:12; 1" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Thes.%201.12%3B%201/">Thes. 1:12; 1</a> <a class="bibleref" title="Tim. 3:15" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Tim.%203.15/">Tim. 3:15</a>–16; <a class="bibleref" title="Tit. 2:13; 2" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Tit.%202.13%3B%202/">Tit. 2:13; 2</a> <a class="bibleref" title="Pet. 1:1" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Pet.%201.1/">Pet. 1:1</a>; <a class="bibleref" title="Heb. 1:3, 8" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Heb.%201.3%2C%208/">Heb. 1:3, 8</a>; <a class="bibleref" title="Phil. 2:6" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Phil.%202.6/">Phil. 2:6</a>; <a class="bibleref" title="Col. 1:15" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Col.%201.15/">Col. 1:15</a>–17, 2:9).</p>
<p>Why did God become man? For one, to communicate God to us (<a class="bibleref" title="John 1:17" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/John%201.17/">John 1:17</a>; <a class="bibleref" title="Heb. 1:1-2" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Heb.%201.1-2/">Heb. 1:1-2</a>). What was his message? That he is the center of the universe and that the Uncaused Cause loves us and does not want any of us to be without him. But our sinfulness has separated us from God. For this reason also, God became man and lived a perfect life so that he could be a perfect savior. He is our ransom (Matt. 20:28). He did not come to show us the way to God, but to <em>be</em> the way to God (<a class="bibleref" title="John 14:6" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/John%2014.6/">John 14:6</a>). Eternal life with God is impossible without him. Without Christ, eternal death and judgement are all that await us (<a class="bibleref" title="John 3:18" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/John%203.18/">John 3:18</a>). But to those who receive (trust in) Christ, he shares his life and glory as he was judged on our behalf (<a class="bibleref" title="John 1:12" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/John%201.12/">John 1:12</a>). Jesus became man so that we might become children of God.</p>
<p>2 Cor. 5:21<br />
&#8220;He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jesus Christ is the God-man who takes away our sins and promises eternal life to all who trust in him.</p>
<p><strong>Conclusion</strong></p>
<p>Do I think God could be more clear than this? Of course. Could my faith be stronger than it is? Most certainly. And I hope it continues to grow. I have never heard God speak. I have never seen him with my eyes. I have never died and gone to heaven and come back again. I have never spoken in tongues. I have never even experienced a miracle that could not be explained outside of a belief in Jesus. There are times in my life when I think that the world functions just the way it would if God were not real. Often times I get frustrated with God. I doubt his love and his goodness. There are times when I entertain other worldviews. I have said before that if I were not a Christian, I am fairly certain I would remain a theist (believing in God). More specifically, I would probably be a deist since I don&#8217;t think any of the other religious options presented in world history are all that impressive or persuasive. When it comes to the big five parademic worldview options, I think deism (the belief that God created everything and has not communicated or intervened since) is the only option besides theism that is <em>logically</em> possible. As best I can tell, atheism, pantheism, and panentheism are all <em>formally</em> absurd. This means that they are not only less likely, but that they are logically impossible.</p>
<p>Again, this is <em>my</em> trek when I have <em>my</em> doubts. The points I provided above stabilize me. I am not saying they are going to stabilize you in the same way. These four points keep my faith anchored. There is a God. He has communicated. Jesus rose from the dead, demonstrating the truthfulness of his claims. And Jesus is God incarnate (&#8220;in the flesh&#8221;) who lived a perfect life, making life with God possible to all who put their trust in him.</p>
<p>I could believe more. My faith is not perfect. However, when my faith is challenged, these intellectual benchmarks serve as a powerful  immunity to doubt and disbelief. I could believe more. I hope each day that I believe more. Only in eternity will I have my faith fully vindicated. Only in eternity will my faith be perfect. But until then, these four points are sufficient for me not only to be a Christian, but to sacrifice every moment in service to Jesus.<strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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		<title>The Dark Side of Theology</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Michael Patton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have come to have a love-hate relationship with theology. I love it because it can deepen one&#8217;s faith, helping people to rejoice more because they understand and know God better (Jer. 9:24). There is nothing more exciting than the look on peoples&#8217; faces when they are being theologically transformed. It is the &#8220;wow, this is really [...]]]></description>
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<p>I have come to have a love-hate relationship with theology. I love it because it can deepen one&#8217;s faith, helping people to rejoice more because they understand and know God better (<a class="bibleref" title="Jer. 9:24" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Jer.%209.24/">Jer. 9:24</a>). There is nothing more exciting than the look on peoples&#8217; faces when they are being theologically transformed. It is the &#8220;wow, this is really true&#8221; look. I live for that both in myself and in others.</p>
<p>However, there is a dark side to theology. I see it everyday. I pray that this does not infect my students, but inevitably, there are always one or two who take their theological knowledge and create a recipe of sin and shame. These are people I call &#8220;theologically dangerous.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/theologically-dangerous1.png"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-9928" title="theologically-dangerous1" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/theologically-dangerous1.png" alt="" width="600" height="201" /></a></p>
<p>The theologically dangerous have no grace. They get some right answers and then become the judge, jury and executioner of people. What should have been the path toward humility turns into the path of arrogance. Their self-justification for their graceless belligerence is this: &#8220;I am not arrogant, I am discerning.&#8221; Correct theology becomes a virtue that swallows up virtues of tenderness, grace, respect, and kindness, offering only a black hole of hopelessness unless people conform. Those who come in contact with them are judged <em>only</em> by their statement of faith. Their fellowship circle is small and friends few. The distinction between essentials and non-essentials does not find a place in their diary. They hunt and hunt for bad theology until they find it. They correct others with pride. When they are not invited to the parties, they interpret this as a mark of persecution for a theology well-played.<span id="more-9915"></span></p>
<p>These are the type of people who are on the dark side of theology. Unfortunately, those who are theologically dangerous are the most vocal (and possibly, the most numerous). Since they have yet to be theologically humiliated, they can&#8217;t stop talking. The fear of God, they have yet to learn. They set themselves up as the watchdogs of Christian orthodoxy. They are the first to comment and correct on the blogs. They are the first to raise their hand in Sunday School when you say, &#8220;Does anyone have any questions?&#8221; Yet after ten minutes of talking, you ask yourself &#8221;what part of the word &#8216;question&#8217; do they not understand?&#8221; They question people&#8217;s salvation based on minor theological points of disagreement.</p>
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<p>Fortunately, many eventually increase in their theological knowledge to a point where they become theologically transformed. This happens when one becomes theologically humiliated. It is like the transition from uninformed adolescence, to a know-it-all teenager, to a mature adult. The mature adult has wisdom and grace due to their coming of age theologically. All the things they thought they knew as a teenager goes through the trials of life. Doctrinal battle scars evidence a ripening of the fruit of belief. Their categories become more diverse. They realize that while there are some black and whites to our faith, there is also a lot of grey. In other words, they recognize that there is a lot we don&#8217;t know. They tighten their grip on the main things and losen it on others. They choose their battles <em>very</em> carefully. It is a transition from ignorance to arrogance back to some degree of informed ignorance.</p>
<p>At this point, fellowship can resume. The lynch mob is sent home. The invitations to parties trickle in. The lantern of the hope of the gospel is shinning bright. At this point, the dark side of theology is over.</p>
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		<title>Why is God So Silent in My Life?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>C Michael Patton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Patton, I have been a believer for quite sometime &#8211; since I was eight. It&#8217;s a miracle, however, that I believe at all. I grew up in a Oneness Pentecostal home that was very legalistic and rigid. Since then I have changed a great deal in regard to my beliefs. I very much believe [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Patton,</p>
<p>I have been a believer for quite sometime &#8211; since I was eight. It&#8217;s a miracle, however, that I believe at all. I grew up in a Oneness Pentecostal home that was very legalistic and rigid. Since then I have changed a great deal in regard to my beliefs. I very much believe in the Trinity, justification by faith, etc. So you could say I&#8217;m pretty much orthodox now. But with all that said, I have been having a bit of trouble with my faith. I&#8217;m kinda having a hard time believing in God or praying to him because I just don&#8217;t see the point in it anymore because I feel like he doesn&#8217;t answer. In fact I feel as if it pointless because he isn&#8217;t here &#8211; right here, spatially &#8211; to speak with me. I dunno I just feel like with all that I have happening in my life a face to face relationship &#8211; a person to person to person conversation &#8211; is what I need from him. And I can&#8217;t have that. I mean it is as if God is a distant uncle to whom I send letters (prayers), and he sends a postcard. Is it enough to just say that God has spoken through his word so he doesn&#8217;t need to speak now? I don&#8217;t feel like it. Why couldn&#8217;t Jesus have just stayed here, albeit in a ubiquitous form? That way I could talk to him. I know he is the Father&#8217;s representative to man and for man so why not stay here where he can be physically accessible?</p>
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<p>My friend,</p>
<p>Thanks so much for writing and for your honesty. Your thoughts, it might comfort you to know, are not uncommon. The problem you speak of is called the “hiddenness of God” in theological circles. Why is God so hidden? It is hard to know exactly why, but the fact of his hiddenness is something the Bible speaks to very clearly. In <a class="bibleref" title="Acts 1" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Acts%201/">Acts 1</a> the angels say, “Why do you stare into heaven. . . He will come back just as you have seen him go.” In other words, you will not “see” him again until he comes back. Christ told his disciples in the upper room before his death that it is “better for you if I go because I will send the Comforter.” I often think “it is NOT better for you to go because I cannot see or hear the Holy Spirit.”</p>
<p>I believe that naked belief (i.e., without empirical experience) is what God calls on us to have right now. We do have to “limp” through this life without having seen God or Jesus, yet believe in him. I don’t have any perfectly sound theological reason why God is not more empirically evident in our lives (though I will give some thoughts below). My more charismatic friends would disagree, as you probably know. However, I have called and called to God to show himself to me. In my darkest times (and against my better theological judgement), I have groped for a sign of his presence, love, even his very existence! Angels, Jesus, a sound, or some type of miracle would be sufficient. I remember two years ago when I was going through my depression. I stayed up all night crying, sitting in my car in the garage yelling at God, asking him to just do something - <em>anything</em>! The silence at that time was deafening. It was painful. It hurt my feelings at a very deep level that the all-powerful God would not perform the simplest of tasks. I thought, “God, if you are so great and love me so much why are you <em>so</em> silent? Why now? Why when I am this depressed? Just do something!”<span id="more-9906"></span></p>
<p>But I think the empirical silence of God is normative for the Christian life. Philip Yancey says that we have to work with &#8220;rumors of another world.&#8221; In fact, ironically, if God were not empirically silent, the Bible would be in error. Peter says, “And though <em>you have not seen Him</em>, you love Him, and though <em>you do not see Him now</em>, but believe in Him, you greatly rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory, obtaining as the outcome of your faith the salvation of your souls” (<a class="bibleref" title="1 Pet 1:8-9" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/1%20Pet%201.8-9/">1 Pet 1:8-9</a>; emphasis mine). You see, Peter here assumes that those in his day &#8211; even those so close to the life and death of Christ &#8211; have not seen Christ (or God or the Holy Spirit). Peter’s point would be moot if he did not mean to include all other forms of experiencing God empirically. The fact is that when Christ ascended into heaven, that was the last we have seen or heard from him <em>in such a way</em>. The door to the “other side” was shut.</p>
<p>If Peter’s statement was not enough, the Apostle Paul also says that the Christian life is a life following after the <em>unseen</em>: “So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal” (<a class="bibleref" title="2 Cor. 4:18" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/2%20Cor.%204.18/">2 Cor. 4:18</a>). He goes on by telling us that we “live by faith, not by sight” (<a class="bibleref" title="2 Cor. 5:7" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/2%20Cor.%205.7/">2 Cor. 5:7</a>). Christ even told Thomas, who needed to see him before he believed, ”Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those <em>who have not seen</em> and yet have believed” (<a class="bibleref" title="John 20:29" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/John%2020.29/">John 20:29</a>; emphasis mine). The “those who have not seen” are us, and we are many. John could not be more clear here: “If someone says, ‘I love God,’ and hates his brother, he is a liar; for the one who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love God <em>whom he has not seen</em> (<a class="bibleref" title="1 John 4:20" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/1%20John%204.20/">1 John 4:20</a>, emphasis mine). John does not say, “whom he has <em>probably</em> not seen.” He works under the assumption that everyone reading his letter has not seen God, Christ, the Holy Spirit, and (if I can be so bold) the “other side.” Finally, the author of Hebrews defines faith as something hoped for which is not seen: “Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things <em>not seen</em>” (<a class="bibleref" title="Heb 11:1" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Heb%2011.1/">Heb 11:1</a>; emphasis mine). The very definition of our faith is that we have conviction about truths that cannot be <em>empirically</em> verified. <em>This does not mean that faith is irrational</em>. It just means that we should not expect to have it verified through our senses.</p>
<p>I am not saying that I have not seen God work in my life. I certainly have. However, my thinking and interpretation of his “movements” is possessed by my belief that he is moving in my life in non-dramatic ways. I see him in everything. I see him even in this email you sent to me. I believe that it is a &#8220;God thing.&#8221; Why? Because I am convinced of the central truths of Christianity and the reliability of the Bible. I feed off of this (even though I would rather have a periodic conversation with Christ face to face). We work with what we got: trusting God knows what he is doing.</p>
<p>However, I do believe that the silence of God serves a definite purpose. God&#8217;s silence, ironically, may serve to keep us productive in this life. It may keep us from (and I am getting dramatic here) committing suicide. Let me illustrate (as I have done before) by referencing my favorite show <em>Justice League</em>! It was an episode where Flash went so fast that he actually began to die and cross over to the “other side.” The molecules in his body were completely unstable and he was stuck between this world and the next. When prodded to come back, Flash had a hard time. He said, “<em>But</em> it is so beautiful over here.” Watch it here:</p>
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<p>You see, the lines were blurred between this life and the next and Flash wanted to go to the next. He could not concentrate on this world any longer due to his exposure to the next. In other words, he wanted to die due to his empirical experience on the “other side.” <em>He needed to have an experiential breach between this life and the next in order to remain here and accomplish his mission</em> (gettin’ them bad guys). When &#8220;rumors of another world&#8221; turns into &#8220;experience of the other world,&#8221; we lose sight of this world.</p>
<p>I don’t think this story is too far from reality. You and I also need an experiential (empirical) breach from the “other side.” We need <em>not</em> to see Jesus. We need <em>not</em> to talk to Jesus. We need <em>not</em> to hear Jesus.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at the example of the Disciples of Christ. The Disciples, understandably, did not want Jesus to die. When he spoke of his death, they were so bold as to desire to die with him. When Thomas - <em>doubting</em> Thomas, of all people! &#8211; thought Jesus was going to die, he said to the other disciples, “Let us also go, that we may die with Him” (<a class="bibleref" title="John 11:16" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/John%2011.16/">John 11:16</a>). I love it! A call for death in the name of the Lord! What a simple faith this expresses. Peter was no different when he said &#8220;Lord, with You I am ready to go both to prison and to death!&#8221;(<a class="bibleref" title="Lk. 22:33" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Lk.%2022.33/">Lk. 22:33</a>). All who were with Jesus had empirical evidence of the “other side” in the person of Christ and they were not willing to let that go, even to death. In <a class="bibleref" title="Acts 1:6" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Acts%201.6/">Acts 1:6</a>, they still had hope that Christ had blurred the lines permanently: “Is it at this time you are restoring the kingdom to Israel?” But they had to watch as Christ was taken into the sky, never to be seen again until his second coming (<a class="bibleref" title="Acts 1:9-11" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Acts%201.9-11/">Acts 1:9-11</a>). The point is that the disciples would have gladly gone on a suicide mission with Christ if it meant a continuation of their exposure to the “other side” in the person of Christ.</p>
<p>You and I would do the same. Were God to show himself in the ways we so often think he should &#8211; were he to do things the way we would do them &#8211; we would probably never be able to accomplish our mission. We would continually be wanting to die in order to cross over. We would be like Flash, having empirical <em>involvement</em> in the world to come, but still having one foot in the current world. However, unlike Flash (who had Superman and Wonder Woman pulling him back!), we most definitely would cross over. Why wouldn’t we? The mysterious would be unmysterious. The lines between this life and the next would be so blurred that we would not hesitate to take that extra step of death, even by our own hand. At the very least, if God were to talk to us face to face, we would never get enough.</p>
<p>While I don’t claim to have all the answers as to why God does not allow us to experience him in such empirical ways, I suspect there is <em>some</em> truth to what I have said here. It is odd to say, but God’s silence may actually preserve his mission for us. The ability to be stable here in this life is actually facilitated by God’s (empirical) silence. I am not saying this is the only reason God is silent, but it does make sense.</p>
<p>Most importantly, while we should not expect to see God with our eyes nor hear him with our ears, God is <em>not</em> ignoring us. His presence is evident and he is not silent. He just moves in very unconventional ways!</p>
<p>Keep the faith my brother. If Christ rose from the grave, then we will one day see him face to face. Until then we must fight the good fight and run the race with our eyes set on the future.</p>
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		<title>What Defines Ministry Success?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 23:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>C Michael Patton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Grant to us that we sit on you right hand and left hand in glory.&#8221; Such were the presumptuous words of James and John to Jesus (Mark 10:35). I have often wondered who will have such places of prestige in heaven. Who will shine like stars? Who will have the brightest halos? Who will have [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Grant to us that we sit on you right hand and left hand in glory.&#8221; Such were the presumptuous words of James and John to Jesus (<a class="bibleref" title="Mark 10:35" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Mark%2010.35/">Mark 10:35</a>). I have often wondered who will have such places of prestige in heaven. Who will shine like stars? Who will have the brightest halos? Who will have best jobs, ruling over many cities? Who do you think it will be? Billy Graham? Chuck Swindoll? C. S. Lewis? Martin Luther? How about Augustine, Polycarp, or any of the great martyrs of the faith? Who would be on your list of the &#8220;Most successful Christians of all-time&#8221;?</p>
<p>What defines ministry success? Oh, that is an easy one: lots of people. In a church, this may mean bigger buildings. At a bible study, this translates into lots of people who don&#8217;t fall asleep during your lesson. At home, this means successful witnessing to your neighbors. In your family, this means all your children loving the Lord. On your blog, this means more readers. On Twitter, this means more followers. Here at the Credo House, it means lots of people deepening in their faith as well as planting dozens of new Credo Houses all over the world. Any or all of these are what comes to mind when we define success in ministry.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to minimize the importance of numbers, statistics, and, indeed, people who grow in the Lord. However, I am coming to believe more and more that these things are secondary to true success. I am beginning to think that those people who have done the most for the Lord are going to be &#8220;no-names&#8221; to us. They are going to be the school teachers, the car salesmen, the waitresses, farmers, and mayors of small towns. They are going to be the Bobs, Tammys, Jacks, and Sarahs. In other words, they are going to be those people who no one really knew much about. Not the men of fame. Not the movers and shakers in the Christian commercial industry. Not even the pastors. They are going to be everyday folk with everyday names who, were it not for the eyes of the Lord which penetrates all that we hold dear, would not be ever known.</p>
<p>Think about those who made it into the list in <a class="bibleref" title="Hebrews 11" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Hebrews%2011/">Hebrews 11</a>. You know THE list. The list of faith. The list of the great men and women of the past. The list of those whom the Lord had his eye on. While most of us know about these people, there was really nothing <em>too</em> special about them from the world&#8217;s point of view. If the Bible had not told us, we probably would not have said that they were &#8220;succesful&#8221; in ministry. They certainly would not have made my list. Some of them may have made the &#8220;other&#8221; list if you know what I mean.<span id="more-9891"></span></p>
<p>Abel made it in because of one sacrifice he made in faith. He was a faithful giver.</p>
<p>Enoch just &#8220;walked with God&#8221;. I don&#8217;t really know exactly what that means, but it was substantial to the Lord. Substantial enough for God to &#8220;take him&#8221; before death.</p>
<p>Noah built a boat when the Lord told him to. He did not have any converts to join him on the boat, though I know he tried. How many unsuccessful evangelism attempts did he have? Be encouraged!</p>
<p>Abraham simply moved to another city when God told him to. As far as we know, he wrote no books, had no evangelistic crusades, and did not even blog!</p>
<p>Rahab hid spies of Israel in her apartment. That is it!</p>
<p>Samson . . . how did he get into this chapter? Were it not for <a class="bibleref" title="Hebrews 11" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Hebrews%2011/">Hebrews 11</a>, there might be some debate as to whether we will even see him in glory! The very fact that he is here let&#8217;s us know that God&#8217;s score card and ours is much different. (And it encourages me!)</p>
<p>But notice that these people were nobodies. Well, let me rephrase that: they were not people we would expect to make it into the &#8220;faith chapter&#8221;. They were not people who went to seminary, started churches, had big websites, or were in demand on the speaking circuit. They were just everyday people who did something extraordinary: they believed God.</p>
<p>What a great thing it is for me (though I am in ministry) to remind myself that success each day comes down to believing God each day. You want to do something tremendous for the Lord? Don&#8217;t quit your job just yet. Don&#8217;t start your autobiography (it might be too boring anyway). Don&#8217;t always focus on what God has you to do <em>in the future</em>. Indeed, he may have something for you later. But he has something <em>earth-shaking</em> for you to do right now: believe him.</p>
<p>You see, that is the common tie between Rahab, Sarah, Samson, Moses, Abraham, and all the great men and women of faith in <a class="bibleref" title="Hebrews 11" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Hebrews%2011/">Hebrews 11</a>: they all believed God when he said something. How complex we can make things. How simple things really are. I love this verse which shows the substance of their faith:</p>
<p><a class="bibleref" title="Heb 11:13" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Heb%2011.13/">Heb 11:13</a><br />
All these died in faith, without receiving the promises, but having seen them and having welcomed them from a distance, and having confessed that they were strangers and exiles on the earth.</p>
<p>Are you are stranger on this earth? Do you believe you are? Do you trust God when he says that he is making all things new? If you do, you are extraordinary. You have a successful ministry beyond your imagination.</p>
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		<title>A Real Halloween Horror: Hell House and Evangelism</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2011 13:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Robinson</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Lisa Robinson) As Halloween approaches, you can bet the discussions will increase amongst Christians, as they normally do.  One faction promotes participation while the other faction wants all Christians to see the horrors of Halloween and why they should not participate.  But that is neither here nor there because I believe it is a matter [...]]]></description>
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<p>As Halloween approaches, you can bet the discussions will increase amongst Christians, as they normally do.  One faction promotes participation while the other faction wants all Christians to see the horrors of Halloween and why they should not participate.  But that is neither here nor there because I believe it is a matter of Christian liberty of whether one participates or not.  Each should live according to their own convictions.</p>
<p>But I want to address what I consider a real horror that does involve Christian participation in Halloween.  In various spots in the country, months of organization and activity have gone into the production of a haunted house experience for innocent people looking for a good old fashioned Halloween scare.  The will line up to go to Hell House and they will rightfully face a horror.</p>
<p>Participants will be led through a series of scenes, which sadly go on in every day life.  There is one scene that emulates the Columbine shooting.  There is another one where a Rave ends up in a date rape scenario.  The girl feeling so ashamed of what has happened to her, curses God.  Another ends up hemorrhaging from a morning after pill.  There is one living room scene that confronts the addictions of pornography.  Yes, this is certainly real life.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the scenarios are used to highlight one thing &#8211; all these people are going to hell.  And that is the point of Hell House, to lure people into a haunted house experience and expose scenarios that could be going on with anyone in the audience.  In fact, as I watched the documentary of the original Hell House here in TX, I couldn&#8217;t help but wonder how many people were being forced to relive their own private pain and then being scorned for being victims.<span id="more-9322"></span></p>
<p>Now, do not get me wrong.  I do believe in Hell.  I do believe that it is the destiny of those who have rejected the grace of God by trusting in His Son.  But I also believe that it was not a place made for people nor does God want people to go there, though some will.  But to frighten and condemn people using such deceptive and horrific tactics is abusive, both to the people who witness them and to the gospel itself.</p>
<p>I see nothing of these tactics used in the pages of scripture to win people to Christ.  If anything, Jesus Himself reached out to the very ones these scenarios condemn &#8211; the outcast, the abused, the neglected and the mistreated.  Can you imagine if He made the woman with the issue of blood watch a scenario that only emphasized the horror of her situation?  Or if He had told showed something like this to the woman at the well?</p>
<p>The problem with highlighting these scenarios and equating them with damnation, is that it negates the real problem that separates us from God.  Sin is our problem not bad behavior, although it certainly is the motivation behind everyone of the acts portrayed.  But sin also motivates us to believe we can earn our own righteousness through good deeds and avoid these kinds of immoral circumstances.  Apart from Christ, we are all dead in our trespasses and sin  (<a class="bibleref" title="Ephesians 2:1" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Ephesians%202.1/">Ephesians 2:1</a>).  Those who are apart from Christ and suffering under the anguish of these scenarios are already condemned.    Castigating victims is not only cruel but very unloving.</p>
<p>And this is where I think Hell House abuses the gospel.  Everything that God did by sending His Son was motivated by love (<a class="bibleref" title="John 3:16" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/John%203.16/">John 3:16</a>; <a class="bibleref" title="Romans 5:8" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Romans%205.8/">Romans 5:8</a>).  All through the pages of scripture, we see a righteous and loving God pursuing His creation, extending grace and mercy and calling people to Himself.  Look at <a class="bibleref" title="Ephesians 2:1-9" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Ephesians%202.1-9/">Ephesians 2:1-9</a>,  we were sinners and acting out on this nature, but God who is rich in mercy extends grace through the gift of His Son.  God so loved the world (broken humanity) that He sent His Son, not to condemn it because it is already condemned.  I don&#8217;t believe He takes delight in condemning the condemned and calling it evangelism.  In fact, the only people that got condemned were the self-righteous religious leaders who were more concerned with form and function, than with God&#8217;s redemptive plan.</p>
<p>Yes, there is a brief message at the end of the &#8216;tour&#8217;.   The message was in line with what I wrote in <a href="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2011/09/making-jesus-known-some-random-thoughts-on-evangelism/">this evangelism post</a>, that dealt with people as widgets with souls to be rescued from the horrors of Hell and not as people that God wishes to redeem.  So the message was really nothing more than a get out of jail free card.  I was actually shocked that the presenter of this message gave people a time by which they must make their personal decision. Otherwise, forget about it.</p>
<p>Friends, this is no way to do evangelism.  It is abusive to people and to the gospel.  It treats people as nothing more than commodities to gain in order to satisfy a quest of Christian accomplishment.  If we are so concerned about the people that God came to rescue, wouldn&#8217;t it be better to use the opportunity of Halloween to feed people, to give them treats and not tricks.  And this is a trick, to make them think they are getting one thing and getting something completely different.  I love what Marc Cortez says <a href="http://marccortez.com/2011/08/26/bait-and-switch-evangelism/">here</a> regarding this kind of bait and switch tactic,</p>
<blockquote><p>Why do we do this? Deep down, are we that afraid that they won’t want to hear? Do we doubt the power of the message that much? Do we think the Spirit can’t handle things?</p>
<p>And, what are we subtly communicating to ourselves and to other people about the Gospel when we do this? I’m afraid that we’re hinting that we really don’t think that the Gospel is all that. If I’m really convinced that I have the most amazing story that will transform your life forever, I’m not going to invite you over to my church for a football game and then try to slip it in between commercials. I’m going to invite you over <em>to</em> <em>hear the story</em>.</p></blockquote>
<p>In the case of Hell House, it is far more than just a story but it is giving people a good scare while victimizing the victims who are already ensnared in a darkened prison.  Apparently,  just presenting the gospel  is insufficient by itself and the Holy Spirit is clearly incapable of drawing lost people without tricky tactics.  Sadly, some have thought this was a good idea and have replicated the model.  I can only hope that people will escape the horror of Hell House and instead be shown real love, the kind that Christ demonstrated to us.</p>
<p>&nbsp;<strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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<li><a href="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2011/10/jesus-with-his-lights-out-on-halloween/" rel="bookmark" title="October 24, 2011">Jesus with His Lights Out on Halloween</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/10/jesus-with-his-lights-turned-off-on-halloween/" rel="bookmark" title="October 28, 2009">Jesus with His Lights Turned off on Halloween</a></li>
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		<title>Jesus with His Lights Out on Halloween</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Oct 2011 07:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>C Michael Patton</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Annual Halloween post! Will is dressing up as a ghost for Halloween. I was shocked. He has an Indiana Jones costume that he wears everywhere. Or, I thought he might choose the Storm Trooper costume. I have given up on him being a superhero (Batman, Vigilante, Green Lantern, or any other DC character). Sigh&#8230; but [...]]]></description>
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<p><img style="float: right;" title="keepOut" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/keepOut1.jpg" alt="" width="294" height="294" />Will is dressing up as a ghost for Halloween. I was shocked. He has an Indiana Jones costume that he wears everywhere. Or, I thought he might choose the Storm Trooper costume. I have given up on him being a superhero (Batman, Vigilante, Green Lantern, or any other DC character). Sigh&#8230; but a ghost? Where did <em>that</em> come from?</p>
<p>My Fundamentalist right pinky toe started to speak.</p>
<p>Toe: &#8220;You know what is going to happen if he dresses up as a Ghost.&#8221;<br />
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Me: &#8220;No, what?&#8221;</p>
<p>Toe: &#8220;Satan.&#8221;</p>
<p>Me: &#8220;Say what?&#8221;</p>
<p>Toe: &#8220;Satan will have a foothold. You and your family will have compromised to evil.&#8221;</p>
<p>Me: &#8220;How so? I don&#8217;t get it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Toe: &#8220;Ghosts are demons. Or at least they are demonic. Therefore, your son is taking his first step toward practicing demonology. It is a form of Satan worship.&#8221;</p>
<p>Me: &#8220;Say what?&#8221;</p>
<p>Toe: &#8220;See, you have already compromised and you don&#8217;t recognize it! Next thing you know, Katelynn and Kylee will be dressing up as witches.&#8221;</p>
<p>Me: &#8220;To what end?&#8221;</p>
<p>Toe: &#8220;What?&#8221;</p>
<p>Me: &#8220;To what end? So what? Who cares?&#8221;</p>
<p>Toe: &#8220;I want a new master. You can just go watch Harry Potter for all I care.&#8221;</p>
<p>Christians on Halloween. Scared to celebrate. Some with more than their pinky toes doing the talking. You know the ones. They are the only ones in the neighborhood who have their lights turned off. &#8220;Oh, here come the kids. They are going to come to our door. If we open it, we will have compromised and, in effect, told them that Satan is our friend, that Satan is our pal. <em>Turn off the lights and HIDE! It is the only Christian thing to do.</em>&#8220;<!--more--></p>
<p>Ahem&#8230;please. Help us.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe I am going to say this but, WWJD? Really, what would Jesus do? Can you see it? Jesus with his lights turned off on Halloween? That would be the Jesus <em>history</em> never knew. That would be the Jesus of western Fundamentalism. The one who is not a friend of sinners and tax gatherers. The Jesus that was never accused of being a drunkard. The Jesus who looked from a distance at the wedding of Cana, waiting for the sinners to wipe the dust off their feet before he talked to them. The Jesus who saw a child dressed up as a ghost and said, &#8220;I can&#8217;t take this anymore. It is not worth it. Give me that stone so that I can turn it into bread.&#8221;</p>
<p>Mark Young, my friend and former missions prof at DTS (now the president of Denver Seminary), used to talk about this in his missions 101 class. Oh, the shame of us students who had turned off the lights. We left the class crying, looking for little witches and ghosts to hug. His thesis: Christians are not Christians on Halloween. Not because they have compromised and participated, but precisely because they don&#8217;t participate. The one day of the year where children (&#8220;Permit them to come to me&#8230;&#8221; <a class="bibleref" title="Mark 10:14" href="http://www.esvbible.org/search/Mark%2010.14/">Mark 10:14</a>) are attempting to come to us and we shut the door and turn off the lights. We left the class in tears and began to plan what we were going to be for Halloween.</p>
<p>Toe (yes, he&#8217;s back): &#8220;But&#8230;but&#8230;but&#8230;It is not about the lights being on. Its not about giving out candy. Its about participating in the evil deeds of darkness. Don&#8217;t you know the roots of Halloween?&#8221;</p>
<p>Give me a break. Who have you been reading? Whoever it is, stop. First of all, how many kids do you know that are into witchcraft, Satan worship, or necromancy? What happened? Your eight-year-old was walking down the street in her witch costume and thought to herself: &#8220;I suddenly feel myself tempted to say a chant and worship Satan&#8221;?</p>
<p>Toe: &#8220;No, it happens subtly. You know, like with Harry Potter.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, that is right. In twenty-first century America, I can see how much satanism has grown because of Harry Potter and Halloween. Witchcraft is the primary evil from which young kids have to recover. It&#8217;s not sexual promiscuity, it&#8217;s not greed or materialism, it&#8217;s not moms and dads who can&#8217;t demonstrate commitment and love, it&#8217;s not a compromise of the Gospel. It&#8217;s witchcraft. It&#8217;s our kids becoming ghosts on Halloween.</p>
<p>Sorry. Will <em>is</em> going to be a ghost. You can turn off your lights.</p>
<p>(Oh, and one more thing. Don&#8217;t just give out tracts&#8230;Shame, shame. Give out <em>the best</em> candy in the neighborhood. Let people know you are the house that is not cheap.)<strong>Similar Posts:</strong>
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<li><a href="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2010/09/what-will-i-let-my-kids-watch-thoughts-on-entertainment-and-the-christian/" rel="bookmark" title="September 2, 2010">What Movies Will I Let My Kids Watch?</a></li>
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