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I was fascinated with all the books that have been offered as support for the two contenders. Personally I would have thought that only one was really relevant – the Bible. After all, that’s where it all starts (and ends). Can’t we just stick to that?

Hi folks,

Wouldn’t necessarily add this to Dave’s list as it’s more history than doctrinal examination, but the book When Jesus Became God by Richard E. Rubenstein provides a fascinating history of the development of the trinity as doctrine.

Looking forward to the debate.

Tim

I would add “The Making of a Tradition” by Mark Mattison to David Burke’s list. It is out-of-print and very hard to find, but I’ve posted (with Mark Mattison’s permission) a chapter from it called “Towards a Revised Christology” at my website:

http://www.welivebythespirit.org/#god_and_jesus

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John: I didn’t intend to say that each book listed argues against all of those things; but rather that the list as a whole represents works that argue against all of these things. As you note, Bernard only denies the Trinity and personal preexistence of the Son. Hamerton-Kelly has nothing to say of the Trinity past a brief reference to “the traditional understanding of the threefold activity of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit in the Trinity.” (Pre-Existence, Wisdom, and The Son of Man , 179)

Nick, you posted DK Bernard’s book as one that “argu[es] for divine Christology as a later development.” It’s been years since I read it, but if I remember correctly, Bernard argues against Trinitarian theology proper, and not necessarily divine Christology, as a later development. I agree that in his book Bernard does do the first two things you mentioned.

I am surprised that you did not include the works of the early Church Fathers; St. Athanasius of Alexandria.
He gave us the word “Holy Trinity”
here is some background
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athanasius_of_Alexandria
peace and love in Christ
Salah

To Dave’s list of books, I’d add Truth in Translation: Accuracy and Bias in English Translations of the New Testament by Jason David BeDuhn.