the fact that christ came to earth as a mortal man makes that year as 1-AD
not the other way around. the fact this the year of our lord 2011 tells us AD-1 was 2011 years ago. christ made AD-1 by his birth to the virgin mary. there would be no AD if god did not send his only son to earth. BC-1 ended the 6th millennium .. today we talk 2nd millennium after christ or it will otherwise be the 8th millennium at the year 2000 by the standards i see here. the calendar did not make AD calendar christ did at his birth.. lets get things in there true places

Interesting read, but it leaves out MUCH symbolism found in the Feasts of the Lord – which were dramas played out to help the people understand spiritual realities … Passover and Feast of Tabernacles mainly, but also Pentecost and Hannukah.

Googling Christ born Feast of Tabernacles, or Christ born Passover, or Christ born Hanukkah will give several different opinions.

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Good question and probably unanswerable . My guess would put Him under the sign of Scorpio .

[...] On what date was Christ born? [...]

Depending on who you ask, and what theory you attend to, the final Julian calendar, in its final form did not come into force until either 1BC or 4AD. There were still wild adjustments being made arount 8BC or so. Even if we knew for sure the exact day Jesus was born on by the Gregorian calendar, it doesn’t mean we would know what day he was born on according to the calendar of the day. Or vice versa.

In addition to Lk 2:8 objection, ancient Jewish cultural background would also give us additional clues. Shepherds literally stayed with their sheep out in the open fields. They would bring their sheep in from the fields when it starts to rain— this would be around October is my understanding. It would also seem to be a very clever ploy of the early Christians in their evangelistic move to advance ‘Good News’ by reinventing pagan festival/holiday as a Christian celebration much like our political correct culture to celebrate Christmas as Happy Holiday.

Merry Christmas

@Erik W

Good point, I will amend my original posting at Eclectic Christian.

[...] On what date was Christ born? [...]

I didn’t realize the whole post was a quote from H. Hoehner (z”l) until I got to the very end. Almost missed it. Maybe he should be added to the byline.

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