The Way of The Master makes me cringe. I saw some of the video clips with Kurt Cameron (who seems like a genuinely nice and sincere guy)…to me, it’s kind of embarrassing. Why not try to attract followers to Christ by actually ministering to them instead of making them feel intellectually small and giving them $20 afterwards? I only saw a couple of the videos, perhaps I’m generalizing, but I did feel uncomfortable watching them.

Ron, you are the only one who got it! That is exactly what I was talking about.

I can definatly see why you feel this way Michael. How long would have the viedo been if they included all that they had recorded. It was recorded to show how, as a general population, we lack knowlege of God’s 10 commandments compared to worldly things (not all worldly things obviously). 85% was a figure tossed out. 85% of what? The people outside in his neighborhood, in a business district? At the mall or place were these items they had knowledge about were sold? Could be as you say “Manipulative” to say the least.

If I recall, the way the story goes is that God gave the 10 commandments to Israel in the wilderness and that, but for two, all who were there to receive it died in the wilderness. The Law does not bring life. It does not even bring conviction. It only establishes that an offense has been made. This is not the Good News. This is the Bad News.

Ray Comfort (who heads up the Way of the Master–not the guy in the video) is an evangelist, and he has a lot of very worthwhile things to say. Although I might not feel comfortable using the street witnessing methods he teaches, I think that there is validity to helping people to reflect on the fact that they aren’t necessarily such ‘good people’ by God’s standards. Those who don’t see themselves as sinners have no need for a Savior. Conviction over ones sin is a work of the HS, which can certainly be brought about with exposure to God’s standards.

The video seems a bit cheesy, but I wonder if many would experience true conviction if they sat down and memorized the Ten Commandments. It would of course be a work of God’s Spirit….
It wouldn’t be my method……but……?

I fail to see how Way of the Master can be put as manipulation? Doesn’t Scripture tell us by the Law is knowledge of sin, so how else to expose one’s real self to themselves than the Law of God?

I have little problem with it. I get Ron Paul fan email… I have thick skin

davidbmc:

I’ve tried to enumerate them a couple times, too. IMO, the context suggests that 34:28 is referring to what preceded it in 34:10-27, not to Exodus 20. John Sailhamer enumerates them this way:
1. 11-17: Prohibition of idolatry
2. 18: Feast of Unleavened Bread
3. 19-20: Dedication and redemption of firstborn
4. 20: Sabbath
5. 21a: Feast of Weeks
6. 21b: Feast of Ingathering
7. 25a: Prohibition of leaven in blood of sacrifice
8. 25b: Prohibition of preserving Passover sacrifice
9. 26a: Best of the firstfruits
10. 26b: Prohitibion of boiling kid in mother’s milk

- The Pentateuch As Narrative, John H. Sailhamer, p. 316

It’s manipulative, irritating and disconcerting. Dangle money in front of someone so that they can memorize some words that tell them it’s not ok to steal from or kill someone? Like we still need to be told this? Is this the central theme of Christianity? Is this God’s concern, that we obey the 10 commandments?? I thought we were supposed to be pressing people towards Jesus, not OT law.

EricW,
I did try my hand at it. That’s why I asked.

I came up with between 6 and 15 commandments depending on how you group them. I was wondering how you divide them.

Or is it possible that the reference to the ten comm. in v. 28 is referring to the Ex 20 list? (Not saying it is-just asking.)

dm