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	<title>Comments on: Andy Schlafly’s Conservative Bible Project</title>
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		<title>By: JohnJay60</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/10/andy-schlafly%e2%80%99s-conservative-bible-project/comment-page-1/#comment-47191</link>
		<dc:creator>JohnJay60</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jan 2011 01:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s particularly interesting about &#039;wine vs grape juice&#039; question is that Schlafly&#039;s family makes money selling alcohol.  Do they agree or disagree with the consumption of alcohol?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-47191" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('47191', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-47191-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>What&#8217;s particularly interesting about &#8216;wine vs grape juice&#8217; question is that Schlafly&#8217;s family makes money selling alcohol.  Do they agree or disagree with the consumption of alcohol?</p>
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		<title>By: Lenski redux&#8230; or Andy Writes Another Letter &#171; We couldn&#8217;t make this up&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lenski redux&#8230; or Andy Writes Another Letter &#171; We couldn&#8217;t make this up&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2010 13:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] At no point did they revert back to the original Greek (or should that be Aramaic?) documents, even though Terry Hurlbut tried gamely for a bit, armed with an English / Greek pocket dictionary and Google Translate, but even he fell away. Despite all this, and the legion flaws contained in Andy&#8217;s &#8220;translation&#8221; he went forth to proclaim the Good News. Well, he appeared on the Colbert Report, and didn&#8217;t quite get the fact that he was the butt of their joke. Hint: Andy, people are laughing AT you, not with you. Still, now he&#8217;s going after his detractors&#8230; hopefully not one at a time, because I think the universe will end before he gets done. First on his list is Prof. Douglas Moo, who is currently involved in a new translation of the NIV and TNIV, who dared call Andy&#8217;s project &#8220;silly.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-35450" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('35450', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-35450-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>[...] At no point did they revert back to the original Greek (or should that be Aramaic?) documents, even though Terry Hurlbut tried gamely for a bit, armed with an English / Greek pocket dictionary and Google Translate, but even he fell away. Despite all this, and the legion flaws contained in Andy&#8217;s &#8220;translation&#8221; he went forth to proclaim the Good News. Well, he appeared on the Colbert Report, and didn&#8217;t quite get the fact that he was the butt of their joke. Hint: Andy, people are laughing AT you, not with you. Still, now he&#8217;s going after his detractors&#8230; hopefully not one at a time, because I think the universe will end before he gets done. First on his list is Prof. Douglas Moo, who is currently involved in a new translation of the NIV and TNIV, who dared call Andy&#8217;s project &#8220;silly.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Headless Unicorn Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/10/andy-schlafly%e2%80%99s-conservative-bible-project/comment-page-1/#comment-19238</link>
		<dc:creator>Headless Unicorn Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of the intermediate stage of the French Revolution, before the flat-out Dechristianizing Campaigns.

The ever-changing banana republic of Revolutionary factions originally started their own national Church (a heresy called &quot;Gallicanism&quot; in Catholic theology -- guess why?), using &quot;juring&quot; clerics who&#039;d sworn an oath of alliegance to the Revolution in lieu of recognizing the King&#039;s Divine Right.  As things kept unravelling, there was a phase where the Revolution tried to rewrite the liturgy and the Bible into propaganda for the Revolution.  I remember one Revolutionary translation of the &quot;Our Father&quot; where &quot;Give us this day our daily bread&quot; is followed by &quot;despite the conspiracy of (insert name of British prime minister, various Royalists, and every Enemy of the Revolution du Jour)&quot;.  &lt;b&gt;THAT&#039;s what this &quot;Conservapedia Bible Project&quot; reminds me of.&lt;/b&gt;

(About a year later &lt;i&gt;La Revolution&lt;/i&gt; just abolished Christianity entirely, for (depending on faction) radical Atheism, mystical neo-Paganism, or the invented-for-the-occasion Cult of Reason and Cult of The Supreme Being.  As the &lt;i&gt;Star Trek&lt;/i&gt; tag line would later put it, &quot;We&#039;ve Evolved Beyond All That&quot;.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-19238" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('19238', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-19238-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>This reminds me of the intermediate stage of the French Revolution, before the flat-out Dechristianizing Campaigns.</p>
<p>The ever-changing banana republic of Revolutionary factions originally started their own national Church (a heresy called &#8220;Gallicanism&#8221; in Catholic theology &#8212; guess why?), using &#8220;juring&#8221; clerics who&#8217;d sworn an oath of alliegance to the Revolution in lieu of recognizing the King&#8217;s Divine Right.  As things kept unravelling, there was a phase where the Revolution tried to rewrite the liturgy and the Bible into propaganda for the Revolution.  I remember one Revolutionary translation of the &#8220;Our Father&#8221; where &#8220;Give us this day our daily bread&#8221; is followed by &#8220;despite the conspiracy of (insert name of British prime minister, various Royalists, and every Enemy of the Revolution du Jour)&#8221;.  <b>THAT&#8217;s what this &#8220;Conservapedia Bible Project&#8221; reminds me of.</b></p>
<p>(About a year later <i>La Revolution</i> just abolished Christianity entirely, for (depending on faction) radical Atheism, mystical neo-Paganism, or the invented-for-the-occasion Cult of Reason and Cult of The Supreme Being.  As the <i>Star Trek</i> tag line would later put it, &#8220;We&#8217;ve Evolved Beyond All That&#8221;.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jason C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 06:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that I was dumbfounded when I heard about the Conservapedia Bible project.

It&#039;s just... silly is a very good word to describe it.

I blame Tyndale. :)</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s just&#8230; silly is a very good word to describe it.</p>
<p>I blame Tyndale. <img src='http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: P Meinsen</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/10/andy-schlafly%e2%80%99s-conservative-bible-project/comment-page-1/#comment-19236</link>
		<dc:creator>P Meinsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pharisees = Liberals???? It seems that it would be more accurate to say the Pharisees would be closer to today&#039;s &quot;conservatives.&quot; Now, the Sadducees could have been &quot;liberals&quot;. Regardless, conservatives and liberals non-believers will share the same eternal fate unless they become disciples of Jesus. That fact should remind the church of its mandate to make disciples of our governing authorities (1 Tim. 2:1-4).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-19236" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('19236', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-19236-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>Pharisees = Liberals???? It seems that it would be more accurate to say the Pharisees would be closer to today&#8217;s &#8220;conservatives.&#8221; Now, the Sadducees could have been &#8220;liberals&#8221;. Regardless, conservatives and liberals non-believers will share the same eternal fate unless they become disciples of Jesus. That fact should remind the church of its mandate to make disciples of our governing authorities (1 Tim. 2:1-4).</p>
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		<title>By: On-Line Article (s) I Read Today, Part VIII &#171; Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/10/andy-schlafly%e2%80%99s-conservative-bible-project/comment-page-1/#comment-19235</link>
		<dc:creator>On-Line Article (s) I Read Today, Part VIII &#171; Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 19, 2009 in Links    Andy Schafly&#8217;s Conservative Bible Project by Dan Wallace       [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-19235" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('19235', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-19235-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>[...] 19, 2009 in Links    Andy Schafly&#8217;s Conservative Bible Project by Dan Wallace       [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel B. Wallace</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/10/andy-schlafly%e2%80%99s-conservative-bible-project/comment-page-1/#comment-19234</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel B. Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 20:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks, thanks for your comments. It&#039;s obvious to me that the readership of Parchment &amp; Pen would not put up with the nonsense represented by the Conservative Bible Project.

And j, I loved your sarcastic line about the &quot;translator-hood of the believer.&quot; Classic--and I&#039;m going to use it.

dbw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-19234" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('19234', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-19234-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>Folks, thanks for your comments. It&#8217;s obvious to me that the readership of Parchment &amp; Pen would not put up with the nonsense represented by the Conservative Bible Project.</p>
<p>And j, I loved your sarcastic line about the &#8220;translator-hood of the believer.&#8221; Classic&#8211;and I&#8217;m going to use it.</p>
<p>dbw</p>
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		<title>By: Cory Howell</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/10/andy-schlafly%e2%80%99s-conservative-bible-project/comment-page-1/#comment-19233</link>
		<dc:creator>Cory Howell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen and amen.  Thanks for your perspective on this, Dan Wallace.  I find it refreshing that, for once, almost all sensible conservatives and liberals are united in speaking out against this misbegotten Conservative Bible Project.  The CBP is truly a travesty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-19233" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('19233', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-19233-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>Amen and amen.  Thanks for your perspective on this, Dan Wallace.  I find it refreshing that, for once, almost all sensible conservatives and liberals are united in speaking out against this misbegotten Conservative Bible Project.  The CBP is truly a travesty.</p>
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		<title>By: j</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/10/andy-schlafly%e2%80%99s-conservative-bible-project/comment-page-1/#comment-19232</link>
		<dc:creator>j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 15:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So now that Luther brought the Bible to the individual, Schlafly is going to have each individual translate their own (doctrine: the translator-hood of the believer). And then change it to read his own tendentious preferences.

Sad news. They may as well ignore the Greek, Heb. and Aram. altogether and just write it how they want it. It&#039;ll preach better anyhow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-19232" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('19232', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-19232-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>So now that Luther brought the Bible to the individual, Schlafly is going to have each individual translate their own (doctrine: the translator-hood of the believer). And then change it to read his own tendentious preferences.</p>
<p>Sad news. They may as well ignore the Greek, Heb. and Aram. altogether and just write it how they want it. It&#8217;ll preach better anyhow.</p>
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		<title>By: EricW</title>
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		<dc:creator>EricW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 14:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jugulum:

Absolutely. In fact, some of them don&#039;t even make good sense if you say &quot;the LORD,&quot; IIRC. They require using a personal name, not a title.</description>
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<p>Absolutely. In fact, some of them don&#8217;t even make good sense if you say &#8220;the LORD,&#8221; IIRC. They require using a personal name, not a title.</p>
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