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		<title>By: Jeremy Dean</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/07/does-sex-need-to-be-demystified/comment-page-1/#comment-16476</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>J.....actually that&#039;s a guy and a girl kissing at the top of his site, not 2 girls...Men sometimes have long hair these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J&#8230;..actually that&#8217;s a guy and a girl kissing at the top of his site, not 2 girls&#8230;Men sometimes have long hair these days.</p>
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		<title>By: j</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/07/does-sex-need-to-be-demystified/comment-page-1/#comment-16475</link>
		<dc:creator>j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 17:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey-

while we&#039;re on the topic, a friend pointed out this site.

perhaps controversial in the other, post-marital direction. I didn&#039;t read too much yet.

http://christiannymphos.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey-</p>
<p>while we&#8217;re on the topic, a friend pointed out this site.</p>
<p>perhaps controversial in the other, post-marital direction. I didn&#8217;t read too much yet.</p>
<p><a href="http://christiannymphos.org/" rel="nofollow">http://christiannymphos.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 23:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Vance -- I don&#039;t see pride listed in the ten commandments, but pride could certainly be an occasion for breaking any of the commandments, so it&#039;s a biggie.  But it&#039;s very clear that adultery is considered a far graver sin than anger or gossip, for example, so the church&#039;s preoccupation with adultery over the past 2,000 years seems warranted.  I&#039;m very suspicious of anyone who claims that 2,000 years of church tradition were mistaken.

FWIW, adultery is a sin for a lot more reasons than property theft.  Marriage is symbolic of the bond between God and man, and monogamous marriage is a reflection of monotheism.  Throughout the Old Testament, idolatry is equated with adultery and prostitution, while faithfulness to God is equated with marriage.

And I speak as chief among sinners, so my comments are not in the least bit self-serving, either. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Vance &#8212; I don&#8217;t see pride listed in the ten commandments, but pride could certainly be an occasion for breaking any of the commandments, so it&#8217;s a biggie.  But it&#8217;s very clear that adultery is considered a far graver sin than anger or gossip, for example, so the church&#8217;s preoccupation with adultery over the past 2,000 years seems warranted.  I&#8217;m very suspicious of anyone who claims that 2,000 years of church tradition were mistaken.</p>
<p>FWIW, adultery is a sin for a lot more reasons than property theft.  Marriage is symbolic of the bond between God and man, and monogamous marriage is a reflection of monotheism.  Throughout the Old Testament, idolatry is equated with adultery and prostitution, while faithfulness to God is equated with marriage.</p>
<p>And I speak as chief among sinners, so my comments are not in the least bit self-serving, either. <img src='http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Eaton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Eaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is an area that the church spends too much time preaching about pre-marriage behavior, all the &quot;dont&#039;s&quot;, but not enough time talking about the post-marriage limits of a healthy marriage.  I wrote a four-part series of blog posts about this on Theologica.  Search the blogs for &quot;Sex in the Church&quot;, &quot;Lust&quot;, &amp; &quot;Sex and the Single Life&quot; as well as &quot;Straight Talk about Sex&quot; in the Straight Talk group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is an area that the church spends too much time preaching about pre-marriage behavior, all the &#8220;dont&#8217;s&#8221;, but not enough time talking about the post-marriage limits of a healthy marriage.  I wrote a four-part series of blog posts about this on Theologica.  Search the blogs for &#8220;Sex in the Church&#8221;, &#8220;Lust&#8221;, &amp; &#8220;Sex and the Single Life&#8221; as well as &#8220;Straight Talk about Sex&#8221; in the Straight Talk group.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with others concerning the demystifying and reducing sex to the lowest common demoninator, so to speak.  It sounds like a form of surpression to face the reality of what warm blooded humans have to deal with on regular basis.

I do think sex education to sustain morality is a tricky balance.  On one hand, I can see the guys point of oversaturation but on the other hand you want to counterbalance society&#039;s obsession with it, that young people (heck all people) are confronted with on a regular basis.  Just say no doesn&#039;t work and whetting appetites through continual reminders of legitimate fun doesn&#039;t seem to work too well either.  I dunno, seems like the best thing might be to keep lines of communication open and when challenges present themselves or someone just wants to talk, there is an easily accessible channel.  Rather than bombard people with contant messages. Just a thought

Regarding the aggrandizement of sexual sin compared to others, I do see Vance&#039;s point about religious pride.  However, I do have reasons for believing that sexual sins have a consequence like no others.  For starters, I Corinthians 6:18 indicates sexual sins go against our own body.  I&#039;d me interested to know what others make of that.  Also, in Acts 15, when Paul and Co were confronted with the judiazers, they had to come up with absolute no-nos for the Gentiles.  The very short-list included sexual immorality-they must flee fornication.  Maybe because it has something to do with the joining of two people and illegitimacy proves quite destructive for all involved, like no other sin.  I&#039;m not exactly sure this is right, but it sure seems that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with others concerning the demystifying and reducing sex to the lowest common demoninator, so to speak.  It sounds like a form of surpression to face the reality of what warm blooded humans have to deal with on regular basis.</p>
<p>I do think sex education to sustain morality is a tricky balance.  On one hand, I can see the guys point of oversaturation but on the other hand you want to counterbalance society&#8217;s obsession with it, that young people (heck all people) are confronted with on a regular basis.  Just say no doesn&#8217;t work and whetting appetites through continual reminders of legitimate fun doesn&#8217;t seem to work too well either.  I dunno, seems like the best thing might be to keep lines of communication open and when challenges present themselves or someone just wants to talk, there is an easily accessible channel.  Rather than bombard people with contant messages. Just a thought</p>
<p>Regarding the aggrandizement of sexual sin compared to others, I do see Vance&#8217;s point about religious pride.  However, I do have reasons for believing that sexual sins have a consequence like no others.  For starters, I Corinthians 6:18 indicates sexual sins go against our own body.  I&#8217;d me interested to know what others make of that.  Also, in Acts 15, when Paul and Co were confronted with the judiazers, they had to come up with absolute no-nos for the Gentiles.  The very short-list included sexual immorality-they must flee fornication.  Maybe because it has something to do with the joining of two people and illegitimacy proves quite destructive for all involved, like no other sin.  I&#8217;m not exactly sure this is right, but it sure seems that way.</p>
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		<title>By: jntowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>jntowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are the two problems pop out at me the most to me after reading this article –

1) He uses pragmatism (or lack thereof) to defend his case, seemingly throughout the entire article

2) More importantly, he blatantly shows that his personal viewpoint on sex is extremely shallow and void of any emotional depth – and that seems to be where his entire argument originates. His view diminishes both the positive side of sex in marriage (comparing it to having an ice cream cone? c’mon…) as well as the negative consequences, both emotionally and physically, of sex outside of marriage.

His logic is completely counter-intuitive. “What if we begin to treat sex as the relatively mundane biological function that it is?” That would work for about a day… why? Because it’s not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are the two problems pop out at me the most to me after reading this article –</p>
<p>1) He uses pragmatism (or lack thereof) to defend his case, seemingly throughout the entire article</p>
<p>2) More importantly, he blatantly shows that his personal viewpoint on sex is extremely shallow and void of any emotional depth – and that seems to be where his entire argument originates. His view diminishes both the positive side of sex in marriage (comparing it to having an ice cream cone? c’mon…) as well as the negative consequences, both emotionally and physically, of sex outside of marriage.</p>
<p>His logic is completely counter-intuitive. “What if we begin to treat sex as the relatively mundane biological function that it is?” That would work for about a day… why? Because it’s not.</p>
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		<title>By: ChestertonianRambler</title>
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		<dc:creator>ChestertonianRambler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll go with the consensus here, and say that the author seems to be off-base enough to be not worth consideration.

Yes, some areas of Christianity focus too much on sex; and some do so by ignoring it whatsoever.  But I just can&#039;t get around Paul&#039;s rhetoric concerning &quot;one flesh&quot; being an indication of the divine mystery, or of sex being the sin you commit inside your body.

I&#039;m not saying that a certain level of practicality isn&#039;t healthy and necessary; Lewis wrote of the physical inconsistency of sex (specifically the tendency for one&#039;s &quot;sexual appetite&quot; to fluctuate just like one&#039;s culinary appetite) as a sort of divine joke against our tendency to place sex above God.  But to put sex in the same category as going to a movie or eating ice cream is absolute balderdash.  Many people have truly healthy marriages without ice cream or films, but I would gently question any marriage in which sex wasn&#039;t involved.  It simply isn&#039;t in the same category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll go with the consensus here, and say that the author seems to be off-base enough to be not worth consideration.</p>
<p>Yes, some areas of Christianity focus too much on sex; and some do so by ignoring it whatsoever.  But I just can&#8217;t get around Paul&#8217;s rhetoric concerning &#8220;one flesh&#8221; being an indication of the divine mystery, or of sex being the sin you commit inside your body.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that a certain level of practicality isn&#8217;t healthy and necessary; Lewis wrote of the physical inconsistency of sex (specifically the tendency for one&#8217;s &#8220;sexual appetite&#8221; to fluctuate just like one&#8217;s culinary appetite) as a sort of divine joke against our tendency to place sex above God.  But to put sex in the same category as going to a movie or eating ice cream is absolute balderdash.  Many people have truly healthy marriages without ice cream or films, but I would gently question any marriage in which sex wasn&#8217;t involved.  It simply isn&#8217;t in the same category.</p>
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		<title>By: Vance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jugulum, which would lead to the next obvious question: which sinner would receive the greater punishment, the woman caught in adultery or the prideful religious person Jesus condemned?  It sounds like if there is a greater judgment, it would be for the latter.

And, yet, our Church culture seems to have this reversed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jugulum, which would lead to the next obvious question: which sinner would receive the greater punishment, the woman caught in adultery or the prideful religious person Jesus condemned?  It sounds like if there is a greater judgment, it would be for the latter.</p>
<p>And, yet, our Church culture seems to have this reversed.</p>
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		<title>By: jntowers</title>
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		<dc:creator>jntowers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here are the two problems pop out at me the most to me after reading this article -

1) He uses pragmatism (or lack thereof) to defend his case, seemingly throughout the entire article

2) More importantly, he blatantly shows that his personal viewpoint on sex is extremely shallow and void of any emotional depth - and that seems to be where his entire argument originates.  His view diminishes both the positive side of sex in marriage (comparing it to having an ice cream cone?  c&#039;mon...) as well as the negative consequences, both emotionally and physically, of sex outside of marriage.

His logic is completely counter-intuitive.  &quot;What if we begin to treat sex as the relatively mundane biological function that it is?&quot;  That would work for about a day... why?  Because it&#039;s not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are the two problems pop out at me the most to me after reading this article -</p>
<p>1) He uses pragmatism (or lack thereof) to defend his case, seemingly throughout the entire article</p>
<p>2) More importantly, he blatantly shows that his personal viewpoint on sex is extremely shallow and void of any emotional depth &#8211; and that seems to be where his entire argument originates.  His view diminishes both the positive side of sex in marriage (comparing it to having an ice cream cone?  c&#8217;mon&#8230;) as well as the negative consequences, both emotionally and physically, of sex outside of marriage.</p>
<p>His logic is completely counter-intuitive.  &#8220;What if we begin to treat sex as the relatively mundane biological function that it is?&#8221;  That would work for about a day&#8230; why?  Because it&#8217;s not.</p>
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		<title>By: Jugulum</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jugulum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 19:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: All sins being the same or not

Any sin does condemn us.  But that doesn&#039;t imply that all sins receive the same punishment; the Bible does talk about greater punishments.  (Matthew 11:23-24, Matthew 23:13-14, James 3:1)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: All sins being the same or not</p>
<p>Any sin does condemn us.  But that doesn&#8217;t imply that all sins receive the same punishment; the Bible does talk about greater punishments.  (Matthew 11:23-24, Matthew 23:13-14, James 3:1)</p>
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