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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/06/doing-business-with-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-23346</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 18:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read quite a few of the comments about people posing as devout Christians screwing people in the world.  This to me, says &quot;Hypocrite or Liar&quot; and anything BUT Christian.
We can all tell a tree by it&#039;s fruit.
If the fruit stinks, then it&#039;s rotten.
If the fruit smells of the love and Grace of Christ, then it&#039;s authentic.
Non Christians are not blind... and hypocrites fool no one but themselves.
It&#039;s fairly easy to label ones self as to how a person wants the world to see them, but it&#039;s a life long process to submit your entire being, self will, finances, daily time and love to sincerely submit to the will of GOD thru HIS Holy Spirit.  To make ourselves empty vessels so GOD can fill us with HIS Holy Spirit.
I also have been ripped off more by &quot;FAKES&quot; that call themselves Christians but in reality are liars and imposters.
These are the people we are to pray for... those who abuse us and despitefully use us.  These people are the future harvest for Christ... these sick people are the ones Jesus died for.
&quot;For I haven&#039;t come to save the healthy, but the sick&quot;
GOD give us grace and patience so we hopefully are never seen as we see these people who imitate the children of the Living GOD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read quite a few of the comments about people posing as devout Christians screwing people in the world.  This to me, says &#8220;Hypocrite or Liar&#8221; and anything BUT Christian.<br />
We can all tell a tree by it&#8217;s fruit.<br />
If the fruit stinks, then it&#8217;s rotten.<br />
If the fruit smells of the love and Grace of Christ, then it&#8217;s authentic.<br />
Non Christians are not blind&#8230; and hypocrites fool no one but themselves.<br />
It&#8217;s fairly easy to label ones self as to how a person wants the world to see them, but it&#8217;s a life long process to submit your entire being, self will, finances, daily time and love to sincerely submit to the will of GOD thru HIS Holy Spirit.  To make ourselves empty vessels so GOD can fill us with HIS Holy Spirit.<br />
I also have been ripped off more by &#8220;FAKES&#8221; that call themselves Christians but in reality are liars and imposters.<br />
These are the people we are to pray for&#8230; those who abuse us and despitefully use us.  These people are the future harvest for Christ&#8230; these sick people are the ones Jesus died for.<br />
&#8220;For I haven&#8217;t come to save the healthy, but the sick&#8221;<br />
GOD give us grace and patience so we hopefully are never seen as we see these people who imitate the children of the Living GOD.</p>
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		<title>By: steve martin</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/06/doing-business-with-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-15515</link>
		<dc:creator>steve martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 16:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brett,

  I too am no fan of many Evangelical Christians who use their Christianity to advance their personal and business goals...but...you are really stretching things when you compare them to jihadist Muslims.

Jihadist Muslims ARE actively engaged in trying to subdue the world by force.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett,</p>
<p>  I too am no fan of many Evangelical Christians who use their Christianity to advance their personal and business goals&#8230;but&#8230;you are really stretching things when you compare them to jihadist Muslims.</p>
<p>Jihadist Muslims ARE actively engaged in trying to subdue the world by force.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/06/doing-business-with-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-15514</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy this hit a note with me. We are a production company working on a high profile story and having gotten so screwed by this &quot;Christian&quot; family don&#039;t even know where to start.

I used to have a policy of not doing work for lawyers but I&#039;m now adding evangelicals to that list. It is to easy for them to justify them behavior all in the name of &quot;God&quot; kind of like a bigger problem with another faith in the world currently.

We are partnering with them on a Documentary- basically working for nothing, and the father, we come to fins out is slandering us by telling everyone we&#039;re gay in a explicit and derogatory manner, whie in the same breath telling us of cheating on his wife, and saying it&#039;s OK because that&#039;s what men are meant to do.

We were almost done with the Documentary and then suddenly got a better offer so they have now turned around and demanded we give them everything (film and whatnot), so they can give it to this &quot;new&quot; production company. We were the second production company they did this too, and now there is a third.

Evangelicals rave against muslims and their fanaticism but frankly they are doing almost as much damage to our country as any Jihadist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy this hit a note with me. We are a production company working on a high profile story and having gotten so screwed by this &#8220;Christian&#8221; family don&#8217;t even know where to start.</p>
<p>I used to have a policy of not doing work for lawyers but I&#8217;m now adding evangelicals to that list. It is to easy for them to justify them behavior all in the name of &#8220;God&#8221; kind of like a bigger problem with another faith in the world currently.</p>
<p>We are partnering with them on a Documentary- basically working for nothing, and the father, we come to fins out is slandering us by telling everyone we&#8217;re gay in a explicit and derogatory manner, whie in the same breath telling us of cheating on his wife, and saying it&#8217;s OK because that&#8217;s what men are meant to do.</p>
<p>We were almost done with the Documentary and then suddenly got a better offer so they have now turned around and demanded we give them everything (film and whatnot), so they can give it to this &#8220;new&#8221; production company. We were the second production company they did this too, and now there is a third.</p>
<p>Evangelicals rave against muslims and their fanaticism but frankly they are doing almost as much damage to our country as any Jihadist</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Horn</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/06/doing-business-with-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-15513</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Horn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been burned a lot by Christians, both dedicated and not. I&#039;ve decided not to do business with brothers anymore unless there&#039;s some compelling reason to do so. I&#039;ve been cheated, lied to, and stolen from too often. There are good Christian businesspeople and bad ones, but at least I don&#039;t feel as let down when I have the excuse, &quot;What do I expect from an unbeliever?&quot; part to fall back on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been burned a lot by Christians, both dedicated and not. I&#8217;ve decided not to do business with brothers anymore unless there&#8217;s some compelling reason to do so. I&#8217;ve been cheated, lied to, and stolen from too often. There are good Christian businesspeople and bad ones, but at least I don&#8217;t feel as let down when I have the excuse, &#8220;What do I expect from an unbeliever?&#8221; part to fall back on.</p>
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		<title>By: mbaker</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/06/doing-business-with-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-15512</link>
		<dc:creator>mbaker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Churches should teach us that we have a responsibility to show God&#039;s love and omnipotence though His practical side as well.  If we can&#039;t do that, who are we kidding but ourselves?

Why advertise yourself as a &#039;Christian&#039; business person if you aren&#039;t willing to show there&#039;s a big difference in the secular world&#039;s view (i.e. survival of the fittest) and THE fittest way (vis a vis moral obligation to serve others), regardless of the reward, which is God&#039;s way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Churches should teach us that we have a responsibility to show God&#8217;s love and omnipotence though His practical side as well.  If we can&#8217;t do that, who are we kidding but ourselves?</p>
<p>Why advertise yourself as a &#8216;Christian&#8217; business person if you aren&#8217;t willing to show there&#8217;s a big difference in the secular world&#8217;s view (i.e. survival of the fittest) and THE fittest way (vis a vis moral obligation to serve others), regardless of the reward, which is God&#8217;s way?</p>
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		<title>By: Stan Hankins</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/06/doing-business-with-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-15511</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan Hankins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remodel bathrooms and spend quite a bit of time in people&#039;s homes.  Some of the worst, most hateful people are church go&#039;ers.    I have been treated much better overall by the heathen.

My kids both wait tables while they are in college.  They both say that church go&#039;ers are the worst tippers, hardest to please and the most ungracious.

Was it Ghandi who said,  &quot; I like your Christ, but I dispise your Christians&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remodel bathrooms and spend quite a bit of time in people&#8217;s homes.  Some of the worst, most hateful people are church go&#8217;ers.    I have been treated much better overall by the heathen.</p>
<p>My kids both wait tables while they are in college.  They both say that church go&#8217;ers are the worst tippers, hardest to please and the most ungracious.</p>
<p>Was it Ghandi who said,  &#8221; I like your Christ, but I dispise your Christians&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Doing Business with Christians : The Daily Scroll</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/06/doing-business-with-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-15510</link>
		<dc:creator>Doing Business with Christians : The Daily Scroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Business with Christians   June 19, 2009   Parchment and Pen   Share this [...]</description>
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		<title>By: steve martin</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/06/doing-business-with-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-15509</link>
		<dc:creator>steve martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 05:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stay away from people advertising their businesses with little fish on their card, or in their ad.

I&#039;m looking for a ____________ (whatever), not a Christian ________ (whatever).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stay away from people advertising their businesses with little fish on their card, or in their ad.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking for a ____________ (whatever), not a Christian ________ (whatever).</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Allen</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/06/doing-business-with-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-15508</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Dave Z: You&#039;re totally right that new believers are very enthusiastic and want to drink deeply of anything related to Christianity that they can find.  And making decisions based on the *label* is certainly better than randomly guessing.  So I didn&#039;t really mean to imply that it&#039;s always idolatrous to choose a business, friend, or event based on it&#039;s &quot;Christian&quot; affiliation.

And we certainly don&#039;t want to scare new believers off by quoting scriptures about how many professed Christians will turn out to be heretics, and of whom the Lord will say &quot;I know you not&quot;.  One of the appeals of Christianity is this sense of being part of a large, loving family and the brotherhood/sisterhood.  So we shouldn&#039;t discourage that.

I suppose this all just shows how we need to be extremely cautious so that we do not become a stumbling block to new believers, and also to pray that they grow in the wisdom and discernment with the smallest amount of trauma.  I would even consider the possibility that we should be much more active about rebuking those of us in our communion who behave in a non-Christian manner in business, so that they do not become a stumbling block to new believers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave Z: You&#8217;re totally right that new believers are very enthusiastic and want to drink deeply of anything related to Christianity that they can find.  And making decisions based on the *label* is certainly better than randomly guessing.  So I didn&#8217;t really mean to imply that it&#8217;s always idolatrous to choose a business, friend, or event based on it&#8217;s &#8220;Christian&#8221; affiliation.</p>
<p>And we certainly don&#8217;t want to scare new believers off by quoting scriptures about how many professed Christians will turn out to be heretics, and of whom the Lord will say &#8220;I know you not&#8221;.  One of the appeals of Christianity is this sense of being part of a large, loving family and the brotherhood/sisterhood.  So we shouldn&#8217;t discourage that.</p>
<p>I suppose this all just shows how we need to be extremely cautious so that we do not become a stumbling block to new believers, and also to pray that they grow in the wisdom and discernment with the smallest amount of trauma.  I would even consider the possibility that we should be much more active about rebuking those of us in our communion who behave in a non-Christian manner in business, so that they do not become a stumbling block to new believers.</p>
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		<title>By: Pat K</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/06/doing-business-with-christians/comment-page-1/#comment-15507</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 17:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A  good portion of the blame lies with the churches that don&#039;t teach their people better than this.  Popular books that teach we are recipients of &#039;divine favor&#039; in regard to the mundane details of life don&#039;t help.  A return to the doctrine of vocation and the two kingdoms could really help us in this respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A  good portion of the blame lies with the churches that don&#8217;t teach their people better than this.  Popular books that teach we are recipients of &#8216;divine favor&#8217; in regard to the mundane details of life don&#8217;t help.  A return to the doctrine of vocation and the two kingdoms could really help us in this respect.</p>
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