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	<title>Comments on: The Shack: Liking it Won&#039;t Send You to Hell</title>
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		<title>By: Marilyn McAlister</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marilyn McAlister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 19:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, I&#039;m glad to see that you liked the book.  I thoroughly enjoyed the book and have recommended, and even given,  it to several people.  In each instance I felt like I needed to put a disclaimer on it.  &quot;When you read the book, read it with an open mind.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, I&#8217;m glad to see that you liked the book.  I thoroughly enjoyed the book and have recommended, and even given,  it to several people.  In each instance I felt like I needed to put a disclaimer on it.  &#8220;When you read the book, read it with an open mind.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Cory Howell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cory Howell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read The Shack.  I read it in one day, found it very engrossing.  I don&#039;t think it&#039;s life changing, but it was one of the better novels I&#039;ve read recently.  I had read several critiques of the novel that were very negative, and trusting Michael&#039;s opinion as I do, I decided to see for myself.  Having read it, I am quite surprised that so many Christians seem SO offended by it.  I agree with Michael: cut the author some slack!  Is it a theology textbook? No.  Is it a well written, thought provoking piece of fiction? Yes.  Will it lead people astray from orthodox Christian faith?  I seriously doubt it.  Bottom line: I enjoyed it, and will probably recommend it to others.  I won&#039;t tell anyone it was &quot;life changing&quot; or that it made me completely reconsider my ideas about God, but I would say it&#039;s well worth reading.

Certainly, I think The Shack was better than The DaVinci Code, and far more orthodox, as far as the author&#039;s theology.  But I am not one of those people that believes The DaVinci Code is &quot;dangerous.&quot;  Misguided, perhaps, but not dangerous.  It is my thought that, if any work of fiction is enough to shake your faith in the Bible, then your faith was on a pretty shaky foundation to begin with.  Just my opinion, that...

Finally, I would submit to any who want to criticize any book without having read it (not necessarily directing this to anyone who has posted here): if you want to know what the fuss about ANY book is, read it for yourself, and form your own opinions.  If you disagree with it, decide why you disagree with it.  Along with this idea, I would also say: if you hate something, why try to dissuade others from reading it? Let them form their own opinions, too.  It is high time for Christians to begin thinking for themselves, and judging fiction and non-fiction accordingly.  Does that make any sense?  Hopefully so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read The Shack.  I read it in one day, found it very engrossing.  I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s life changing, but it was one of the better novels I&#8217;ve read recently.  I had read several critiques of the novel that were very negative, and trusting Michael&#8217;s opinion as I do, I decided to see for myself.  Having read it, I am quite surprised that so many Christians seem SO offended by it.  I agree with Michael: cut the author some slack!  Is it a theology textbook? No.  Is it a well written, thought provoking piece of fiction? Yes.  Will it lead people astray from orthodox Christian faith?  I seriously doubt it.  Bottom line: I enjoyed it, and will probably recommend it to others.  I won&#8217;t tell anyone it was &#8220;life changing&#8221; or that it made me completely reconsider my ideas about God, but I would say it&#8217;s well worth reading.</p>
<p>Certainly, I think The Shack was better than The DaVinci Code, and far more orthodox, as far as the author&#8217;s theology.  But I am not one of those people that believes The DaVinci Code is &#8220;dangerous.&#8221;  Misguided, perhaps, but not dangerous.  It is my thought that, if any work of fiction is enough to shake your faith in the Bible, then your faith was on a pretty shaky foundation to begin with.  Just my opinion, that&#8230;</p>
<p>Finally, I would submit to any who want to criticize any book without having read it (not necessarily directing this to anyone who has posted here): if you want to know what the fuss about ANY book is, read it for yourself, and form your own opinions.  If you disagree with it, decide why you disagree with it.  Along with this idea, I would also say: if you hate something, why try to dissuade others from reading it? Let them form their own opinions, too.  It is high time for Christians to begin thinking for themselves, and judging fiction and non-fiction accordingly.  Does that make any sense?  Hopefully so.</p>
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		<title>By: Shack Resources &#171; The Reluctant Puritan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shack Resources &#171; The Reluctant Puritan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 18:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michael Patton - I usually agree with him, but not this time (except I do agree with the title). [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Michael

I read The Shack shortly after it was first published.  I thought it was so good that I bought copies to give to my saved and unsaved family, friends, food servers, hairdressers etc.  At one Bob Evans we even had an informal Shack discussion group.  It was a way to open the door to a discussion of Christ and salvation.  Many people then when out and bought books for their entire family.

After I had given out 30 or more copies I read many pro and con blogs.  But the one by John Mark Hicks went into great detail on the story and then he did an analysis of the claimed theological errors. Since he wrote back in October 2008 it may be hard to locate all of his blogs but a good place to start is: http://johnmarkhicks.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/meeting-god-at-the-shack-v-forgiving-others-self-andgod/

Thank you Michael for your post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Michael</p>
<p>I read The Shack shortly after it was first published.  I thought it was so good that I bought copies to give to my saved and unsaved family, friends, food servers, hairdressers etc.  At one Bob Evans we even had an informal Shack discussion group.  It was a way to open the door to a discussion of Christ and salvation.  Many people then when out and bought books for their entire family.</p>
<p>After I had given out 30 or more copies I read many pro and con blogs.  But the one by John Mark Hicks went into great detail on the story and then he did an analysis of the claimed theological errors. Since he wrote back in October 2008 it may be hard to locate all of his blogs but a good place to start is: <a href="http://johnmarkhicks.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/meeting-god-at-the-shack-v-forgiving-others-self-andgod/" rel="nofollow">http://johnmarkhicks.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/meeting-god-at-the-shack-v-forgiving-others-self-andgod/</a></p>
<p>Thank you Michael for your post.</p>
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		<title>By: Driving Against The Clock &#171; Thinking Out Loud</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/04/the-shack-liking-it-wont-send-you-to-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-12122</link>
		<dc:creator>Driving Against The Clock &#171; Thinking Out Loud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gordon MacDonald in Christianity Today&#8217;s Leadership Journalhttp://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/04/the-shack-liking-it-wont-send-you-to-hell/ and http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/04/seven-more-points-about-the-shack/#comments Well [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gordon MacDonald in Christianity Today&#8217;s Leadership Journalhttp://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/04/the-shack-liking-it-wont-send-you-to-hell/ and <a href="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/04/seven-more-points-about-the-shack/#comments" rel="nofollow">http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/04/seven-more-points-about-the-shack/#comments</a> Well [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#8216;I don’t see any major line being crossed&#8217; : Church Leader Links</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2009/04/the-shack-liking-it-wont-send-you-to-hell/comment-page-1/#comment-12121</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8216;I don’t see any major line being crossed&#8217; : Church Leader Links</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] don’t see any major line being crossed&#8217; C. Michael Patton posts two posts (here and here) defending his positive appraisal of The [...]</description>
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		<title>By: JardinPrayer (Lynn)</title>
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		<dc:creator>JardinPrayer (Lynn)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Just make sure that people are properly discipled. If they are relying on either of these books for their discipleship, we have big problems.&quot; &lt;--- That is the heart of this matter.

I&#039;m almost finished with &quot;The Shack,&quot; having resisted reading it for some time, citing &quot;I don&#039;t have time for fiction,&quot; as my reason.  But, when a respected brother and student of theology told me I HAD to read it for its theological content, his eyes alight, I downloaded it to my iPhone&#039;s Kindle app and got started.  I approached it with skepticism, expecting to do a lot of eye-rolling.  I was surprised, and pleasantly so, at the presentation and the lessons it sets out to teach.

Like you, Michael, I found nothing dangerous or seriously objectionable, though I agree with one comment above that I wouldn&#039;t recommend it to seekers (or non-believers). I would, however, recommend it to many people I know who struggle in their walk with Christ on some of the foundational issues, as a supplemental resource to help illustrate certain principles.

Thank you for this blog.  The timing was perfect for me and I&#039;m glad I read the book after taking your introductory TTP course!  God is great!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just make sure that people are properly discipled. If they are relying on either of these books for their discipleship, we have big problems.&#8221; &lt;&#8212; That is the heart of this matter.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m almost finished with &#8220;The Shack,&#8221; having resisted reading it for some time, citing &#8220;I don&#8217;t have time for fiction,&#8221; as my reason.  But, when a respected brother and student of theology told me I HAD to read it for its theological content, his eyes alight, I downloaded it to my iPhone&#8217;s Kindle app and got started.  I approached it with skepticism, expecting to do a lot of eye-rolling.  I was surprised, and pleasantly so, at the presentation and the lessons it sets out to teach.</p>
<p>Like you, Michael, I found nothing dangerous or seriously objectionable, though I agree with one comment above that I wouldn&#8217;t recommend it to seekers (or non-believers). I would, however, recommend it to many people I know who struggle in their walk with Christ on some of the foundational issues, as a supplemental resource to help illustrate certain principles.</p>
<p>Thank you for this blog.  The timing was perfect for me and I&#8217;m glad I read the book after taking your introductory TTP course!  God is great!</p>
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		<title>By: cheryl u</title>
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		<dc:creator>cheryl u</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John C.T. made a point that I alluded to above.  When I asked about the conversations in the book being conversations Young had with God, I was really saying this:  If he really believes he had these conversations with God, and the theology presented is not true Biblically, where did these conversations really come from?  Obvisiously not from God, either from his own mind or from another spirit.  And people are rethinking their ideas of God from this book.  That is dangerous, is it not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John C.T. made a point that I alluded to above.  When I asked about the conversations in the book being conversations Young had with God, I was really saying this:  If he really believes he had these conversations with God, and the theology presented is not true Biblically, where did these conversations really come from?  Obvisiously not from God, either from his own mind or from another spirit.  And people are rethinking their ideas of God from this book.  That is dangerous, is it not?</p>
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		<title>By: johnMark</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnMark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:35:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I recall correctly, Young is in the process of making a move of The Shack.  In the appendix to the book he says that he wanted to portray for others an accurate picture of who God is.  Now, put this together with the book&#039;s popularity and the movie in the works.  Is it really just a simple work of fiction?  Is that the book&#039;s only intent?

Just because some of Young&#039;s positions in this book have been promoted in the past doesn&#039;t mean we should promote them today. Even is The Shack is similar to CS Lewis&#039; writings, so what?  It&#039;s not Lewis and Lewis is no longer with us.  I don&#039;t see why the validity of The Shack must rise or fall on what CS Lewis wrote.

One thing that The Shack has shown me is that there are people hurting out there who are not being connected with through local churches.  For whatever the reason this is we can do better.  This also shows us not only the importance of theology, but the importance of communicating it well.

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I recall correctly, Young is in the process of making a move of The Shack.  In the appendix to the book he says that he wanted to portray for others an accurate picture of who God is.  Now, put this together with the book&#8217;s popularity and the movie in the works.  Is it really just a simple work of fiction?  Is that the book&#8217;s only intent?</p>
<p>Just because some of Young&#8217;s positions in this book have been promoted in the past doesn&#8217;t mean we should promote them today. Even is The Shack is similar to CS Lewis&#8217; writings, so what?  It&#8217;s not Lewis and Lewis is no longer with us.  I don&#8217;t see why the validity of The Shack must rise or fall on what CS Lewis wrote.</p>
<p>One thing that The Shack has shown me is that there are people hurting out there who are not being connected with through local churches.  For whatever the reason this is we can do better.  This also shows us not only the importance of theology, but the importance of communicating it well.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: John C.T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>John C.T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CMP, &quot;Cheryl, did you have trouble with the theology of Narnia, The Great Divorce, Pilgram’s Progress, or Lord of the Rings. I am sure we could pick those apart all day two, but I would say the same about them—they don’t cross any orthodox barriers.&quot;

The difference is, the writers of those other books were intentionally writing fiction as fiction. Unlike the writer of the &quot;Shack&quot; they didn&#039;t claim to have a visit from God prior to writing their book, nor imply that God was behind their inspiration in writing, nor did they claim to be presenting theology as it should correctly be understood (Even in Lewis&#039; the Great Divorce, he was only putting forward a possibility, a speculation). Those differences are marked and put the Shack into a different category. N. Geisler&#039;s review is very perceptive and clearly shows how unorthodox and incorrect the theology is the &quot;Shack&quot;. Moreover, even in the Bible God the father is never given an image, and the Bible is the basis of for the belief and tradition of not representing the father with an image. Finally, the author&#039;s claim that his theology in his book is &quot;orthodox&quot; is patently false and misleading, and proves him to have little understanding of what he writes about and to be unfit as a teacher.

regards,
John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CMP, &#8220;Cheryl, did you have trouble with the theology of Narnia, The Great Divorce, Pilgram’s Progress, or Lord of the Rings. I am sure we could pick those apart all day two, but I would say the same about them—they don’t cross any orthodox barriers.&#8221;</p>
<p>The difference is, the writers of those other books were intentionally writing fiction as fiction. Unlike the writer of the &#8220;Shack&#8221; they didn&#8217;t claim to have a visit from God prior to writing their book, nor imply that God was behind their inspiration in writing, nor did they claim to be presenting theology as it should correctly be understood (Even in Lewis&#8217; the Great Divorce, he was only putting forward a possibility, a speculation). Those differences are marked and put the Shack into a different category. N. Geisler&#8217;s review is very perceptive and clearly shows how unorthodox and incorrect the theology is the &#8220;Shack&#8221;. Moreover, even in the Bible God the father is never given an image, and the Bible is the basis of for the belief and tradition of not representing the father with an image. Finally, the author&#8217;s claim that his theology in his book is &#8220;orthodox&#8221; is patently false and misleading, and proves him to have little understanding of what he writes about and to be unfit as a teacher.</p>
<p>regards,<br />
John</p>
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