[...] However, Calvinists differ concerning God’s involvement in other areas (for more on this, see here). Some Calvinists believe in what might be called “meticulous sovereignty”, where God [...]

[...] However, Calvinists differ concerning God’s involvement in other areas (for more on this, see here). Some Calvinists believe in what might be called “meticulous sovereignty”, where God has not [...]

[...] However, Calvinists differ concerning God’s involvement in other areas (for more on this, see here). Some Calvinists believe in what might be called “meticulous sovereignty”, where God has not [...]

Kara, sorry I forgot to finish the story.

The rabbi realized that the squirrels would profane the synagogue unless they were circumcised, and prepared to do so. The squirrels never showed up again.

Has anyone considered what happened to Job? What Satan meant for evil, God meant for Good. Didn’t Satan have to “ask” God’s permission to bring havoc on Job? Didn’t God “allow” this?

I do not consider myself either Calvinist or Arminian. Honestly, I only recently learned of their beliefs and doctrines.

I don’t believe God picks out the color of socks we wear, or what side we part our hair on. That all sounds so ridiculous doesn’t it?

His thoughts and love toward us is His sovereignty. His Word and promises are His sovereignty. His desire that no one should perish, but have everlasting life through His Son Jesus Christ is His sovereignty. His good will toward ALL man is His sovereignty. That He is no respecter of man, is His sovereignty. That His thoughts over His creation is the reason why the earth still revolves and exists is His Great Sovereignty!

That’s what I think God’s sovereignty is.

Sometimes educations blinds us to God’s simple teachings.

David,
Thank you. Now I suppose we have to wait until tomorrow to hear the rest of it. He starts off well and then leaves us hanging.

But as a Pentecostal I would say either the preacher cast them out in Jesus name or made them ushers and deacons in an effort to get them saved….(the Pentecostal one at least)

No, No, not at all Kara, I just did not understand your post and wanted to know. No sarcasm or elitism intended.

David,
I was commenting that I wanted to hear the rest of the story started by John CT. It was good and I wanted to hear the rest. Is that ok with you?

Do I need a permission slip or something?

The appeal of the Calvinist Doctrine is strong to many, perhaps it may be due to its use of deductive thought. Deductive thought is much “easier” and seemingly airtight when all premises are established. Inductive reasoning, moving frome the specific to the general requires observation of the big picture and courage to engage the God given rational intellect. To be honest, I do not know exactly “what” I am, but I am confident that I do not fall at either extreme, perhaps God being completely sovereign and Man having free will are not mutually exclusive.

Dr Foltz,

Did you by any chance read the article Michael Patton recently wrote called “Calvinist’s, Please Calm Down”?