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1. Juanda says:

   December 30, 2008 at 1:09 am

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   This comment is for Nathan.
   Hi Nathan,
   I read your commend and was a little confused. You clearly paint the picture of how disappointed you’ve been by man communicating falsehoods or lies in the name of prophetic words, but then ask the same person (man) to give you an example of prophecy being true. I fear the answer you truly seek is based on a greater question you have inside. While I understand your lack of faith in man, I don’t quite understand the questions that seem to push you over the edge by virtue of man being himself. You asked that if anyone has proof that prophesy is true to contact you. This answer cannot truly be answered by flesh and blood, it’s a spiritual gift and answers confirmations rather, must be understood in the spirit. Please stick with me, I’ll do my best to explain myself further.

   You have to know that it’s man who is at fault if a so called prophesy didn’t come true… that is, if anyone is to be at fault. Also, to ask someone else to share with you facts or proof about the gift of prophesy existing is the wrong approach to take in my opinion, at least, if it’s your belief that man has ruined things for you about the gift in the first place. The proof you seek can only be found in Christ and His Word…in Eph 4:11 scripture clearly attests to the 5 fold ministry – Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors and Teachers…verse 12 says, “for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ…” God brings and gifts men and women today with these gifts…all of them including prophecy, see He has to, He said they were necessary for the perfecting of us saints and for Him to be edified. Plus, His Word can’t lie! So if we use this pretence alone, who then if anyone, doesn’t have it spelled out right? Is it man or God? Well, it has to be man. Now the resolve for man (you and me) is found in Hebrews 11:1, “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen…”, verse 3 says, “Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.”

   See, Nathan, I am a prophetess by gifting. I refused many years from doing this unique work of God because of people (man)…some who were skeptics, some who wanted to exploit the gift…myself out of fear and ridicule and I didn’t want to be different, I had been different all of my life and I wanted to fit in before my days on earth were over…so I thought! At least, that’s what I professed for years. Fact is or was is that I didn’t want the gift Nathan, and never did. However, when I came to a place in my spiritual walk with Christ, and I honestly wanted with all of my heart, spirit and soul to do His will more than walk timidly before him in mine, I looked Him spiritually in the eye and said, “Okay! Whatever men say or do, whatever cost or price, whatever comes or goes I will say what you want me to say, do what you want me to do, go where you want me to go…I had decided to totally trust in His Word without challenge or compromise! But that was what “I” had to do. Everyone must choose to do or not do the same in their personal walk with Christ. I can tell you many stories of how God’s gift is in full affect, accurate and changing people’s lives for the building of God’s Kingdom, but will that really change your mind? I don’t think so, I think what you need is a personal encounter with God yourself dear friend. Spell things out to Him as you did in your comment (He already knows, but He wants you to know Him and His Word as truth!) Go up on the mountain top and listen while, clear your head of what you’ve seen and personally heard, know that He is God and cannot lie, pose His Word before Him and He will speak to you – clearly!

   May the peace of God calm your fears and hurts dear friend. God bless you abundantly Nathan.
2. Lisa Robinson says:

   December 30, 2008 at 8:12 am

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   Juanda, you put this comment in the wrong thread. The comment link is below each post not above it. You might want to copy this to the proper thread so others can interact with it.

   Also, I would challenge your understanding of the so-called 5 fold ministry, an unfortunate mis-application of Eph 4:11. If you go back to Eph 2:20, the foundation of the church being built on the apostles and prophets. Prophets were necessary for the breathing out of God’s word. Apostles were those selected by our Lord to carry out His testimony and were given the revelation of Christ (John 14:26, Acts 1:2,22). In this way, they too were were the conduit for breathing out God’s word (2 Peter 1:20-21). So it does seem quite reasonable that the apostles and prophets are included in the list of giftings that were needed for the church but this does not necessarily mean that is applicable for all time. The apostles and prophets had a specific function for the establishment of the church.
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