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	<title>Comments on: God&#039;s View of President Barack Obama</title>
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		<title>By: C. Barton</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/11/gods-view-of-president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-7260</link>
		<dc:creator>C. Barton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re welcome! I seldom ask God why He made it rain, but I do often carry an umbrella!</description>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/11/gods-view-of-president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-7259</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 21:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>C. Barton, you must mean the scripture &quot;all things work together for the good of those that love God and are called according to His purpose&quot;.  Yes, that is definitely a scripture to hold on to in these times.  Thank you for your feed back to my post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-7259" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('7259', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-7259-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>C. Barton, you must mean the scripture &#8220;all things work together for the good of those that love God and are called according to His purpose&#8221;.  Yes, that is definitely a scripture to hold on to in these times.  Thank you for your feed back to my post.</p>
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		<title>By: C. Barton</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/11/gods-view-of-president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-7258</link>
		<dc:creator>C. Barton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 20:53:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cathy, God said, &quot;Let the wheat and the tares (weeds) grow up together . . &quot;, so, we are to be in the world but not a product of the world.  I hope that you can have more insight into just how much God is working in the world to keep us out of darkness and to bring about the best results in our lives!
The Word of God has every good thing necessary for its fulfillment, like a perpetual resource for your soul.
And I never get tired of quoting the verse about how every circumstance will eventually be turned into something good, with a good result, for those who have that Heavenly calling to become more like Jesus.
Amen!
Did the US ever have a &quot;Godly&quot; president?
Anyone care to study the judgment against Sodom &amp; Gomorrah?  Put into modern terms . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-7258" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('7258', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-7258-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>Cathy, God said, &#8220;Let the wheat and the tares (weeds) grow up together . . &#8220;, so, we are to be in the world but not a product of the world.  I hope that you can have more insight into just how much God is working in the world to keep us out of darkness and to bring about the best results in our lives!<br />
The Word of God has every good thing necessary for its fulfillment, like a perpetual resource for your soul.<br />
And I never get tired of quoting the verse about how every circumstance will eventually be turned into something good, with a good result, for those who have that Heavenly calling to become more like Jesus.<br />
Amen!<br />
Did the US ever have a &#8220;Godly&#8221; president?<br />
Anyone care to study the judgment against Sodom &amp; Gomorrah?  Put into modern terms . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think one mistake is to compare America to Israel, America is not God’s chosen nation - the Church is!&quot;

Ruben,

I have to disagree with you on part of this.  The church is the bride of the Lamb, Israel is still God&#039;s chosen nation, and will always be.

You are right that Ameerica is NOT Israel, but our support of Israel gains us favor with God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-7257" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('7257', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-7257-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>&#8220;I think one mistake is to compare America to Israel, America is not God’s chosen nation &#8211; the Church is!&#8221;</p>
<p>Ruben,</p>
<p>I have to disagree with you on part of this.  The church is the bride of the Lamb, Israel is still God&#8217;s chosen nation, and will always be.</p>
<p>You are right that Ameerica is NOT Israel, but our support of Israel gains us favor with God.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/11/gods-view-of-president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-7256</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, I am having such a hard time with Barry being elected.  It is hard for me to understand why God would appoint him president.  I understand the argument that God puts bad people in power to show his mighty arm, but what about those of us who are true followers?  So many times God wanted to obliterate the chosen people, but Moses would pray and remind God of his covenant and God would allow them a stay of execution. What about Lot? God arranged for a handful of people to be spared while punishing all of Sodom &amp; Gomorrah.  What about the Pilgrim&#039;s who landed here and covenanted with God through the Mayflower Compact?  I just cannot understand this man&#039;s appointment.  If we are strong and mighty in the Lord and greater is He that is in us than he that is in the world, well then why does it always seem that he that&#039;s in the world has the upper hand?  Wasn&#039;t his head crushed on Calvary?  I am sorry to be so negative, but I actually googled &quot;why did God allow Barack Obama to be president&quot; and I came upon this website hoping for an answer because I am so discouraged right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-7256" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('7256', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-7256-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>Honestly, I am having such a hard time with Barry being elected.  It is hard for me to understand why God would appoint him president.  I understand the argument that God puts bad people in power to show his mighty arm, but what about those of us who are true followers?  So many times God wanted to obliterate the chosen people, but Moses would pray and remind God of his covenant and God would allow them a stay of execution. What about Lot? God arranged for a handful of people to be spared while punishing all of Sodom &amp; Gomorrah.  What about the Pilgrim&#8217;s who landed here and covenanted with God through the Mayflower Compact?  I just cannot understand this man&#8217;s appointment.  If we are strong and mighty in the Lord and greater is He that is in us than he that is in the world, well then why does it always seem that he that&#8217;s in the world has the upper hand?  Wasn&#8217;t his head crushed on Calvary?  I am sorry to be so negative, but I actually googled &#8220;why did God allow Barack Obama to be president&#8221; and I came upon this website hoping for an answer because I am so discouraged right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Ruben</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/11/gods-view-of-president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-7255</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 22:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think one mistake is to compare America to Israel, America is not God&#039;s
chosen nation - the Church is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-7255" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('7255', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-7255-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>I think one mistake is to compare America to Israel, America is not God&#8217;s<br />
chosen nation &#8211; the Church is!</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander M Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/11/gods-view-of-president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-7254</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander M Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is my understanding that what Michael was communicating in his article is his confidence that because God is sovereign over everything that happens, the election of Barack Obama is also under His control and is incorporated into His ultimately good plan for humanity.

I think though, that by emphasizing this particular aspect of God&#039;s will so much in the article, Michael almost seems to be endorsing the election of Obama as President as &quot;God&#039;s will&quot; in the sense that this is a good thing that has happened.  In another comment he says, &quot;in supporting Obama, I am supporting God’s will&quot;.  Again, I think by this statement Michael means he concurs with God&#039;s sovereign plan, which somehow will use an Obama Presidency for His glory, rather than he thinks Obama would be necessarily doing the moral will of God in his policy-making and actions.

I think that it is very important to retain our confidence in God&#039;s absolute sovereignty over this situation, that we may understand that God is the One who is the Authority over all authorities and that while he does not take away man&#039;s freedom to make choices, He is sovereign in such a way that even human willing, actions and choices are part of His plan, as some have already pointed out.

God may use evil choices and evil men to accomplish His will, but does not condone their sin nor cause it.  I think that Obama&#039;s radical position on abortion is evil and immoral and therefore I  think God condemns it-- in this sense, I think that it was against God&#039;s moral will that Obama be elected as President.

So as Christians we must continue to proclaim and live the gospel, so that evil becomes exposed by the light of our good deeds done in Christ&#039;s name and by His power.  We must walk in the humble recognition of knowing our inconsistency and sin has contributed to evil overtaking our society in many spheres.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-7254" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('7254', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-7254-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>It is my understanding that what Michael was communicating in his article is his confidence that because God is sovereign over everything that happens, the election of Barack Obama is also under His control and is incorporated into His ultimately good plan for humanity.</p>
<p>I think though, that by emphasizing this particular aspect of God&#8217;s will so much in the article, Michael almost seems to be endorsing the election of Obama as President as &#8220;God&#8217;s will&#8221; in the sense that this is a good thing that has happened.  In another comment he says, &#8220;in supporting Obama, I am supporting God’s will&#8221;.  Again, I think by this statement Michael means he concurs with God&#8217;s sovereign plan, which somehow will use an Obama Presidency for His glory, rather than he thinks Obama would be necessarily doing the moral will of God in his policy-making and actions.</p>
<p>I think that it is very important to retain our confidence in God&#8217;s absolute sovereignty over this situation, that we may understand that God is the One who is the Authority over all authorities and that while he does not take away man&#8217;s freedom to make choices, He is sovereign in such a way that even human willing, actions and choices are part of His plan, as some have already pointed out.</p>
<p>God may use evil choices and evil men to accomplish His will, but does not condone their sin nor cause it.  I think that Obama&#8217;s radical position on abortion is evil and immoral and therefore I  think God condemns it&#8211; in this sense, I think that it was against God&#8217;s moral will that Obama be elected as President.</p>
<p>So as Christians we must continue to proclaim and live the gospel, so that evil becomes exposed by the light of our good deeds done in Christ&#8217;s name and by His power.  We must walk in the humble recognition of knowing our inconsistency and sin has contributed to evil overtaking our society in many spheres.</p>
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		<title>By: JRoach</title>
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		<dc:creator>JRoach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John MacArthur recently preached a sermon titled, &quot;A Nation Abandoned by God.”  Our society is in a downward spiral of disrespecting and blaspheming God/Jesus in a way that I have not seen in my own lifetime.  I agree that God sovereignly has put president-elect Obama to lead our nation but I can&#039;t help but think that we are getting what we deserve.  His views on abortion, the gay-activist agenda, his liberal persuasion towards the character of God, etc.  Our nation wants that kind of leadership.  I am going to pray for him and that God would lead him.  I will also pray that God will bring a revival to our nation and, like Ninevah, we as a nation will repent in dust and ashes.  At this time I don’t feel comfortable celebrating the spiritual state of the union.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-7253" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('7253', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-7253-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>John MacArthur recently preached a sermon titled, &#8220;A Nation Abandoned by God.”  Our society is in a downward spiral of disrespecting and blaspheming God/Jesus in a way that I have not seen in my own lifetime.  I agree that God sovereignly has put president-elect Obama to lead our nation but I can&#8217;t help but think that we are getting what we deserve.  His views on abortion, the gay-activist agenda, his liberal persuasion towards the character of God, etc.  Our nation wants that kind of leadership.  I am going to pray for him and that God would lead him.  I will also pray that God will bring a revival to our nation and, like Ninevah, we as a nation will repent in dust and ashes.  At this time I don’t feel comfortable celebrating the spiritual state of the union.</p>
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		<title>By: megan samuels</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/11/gods-view-of-president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-7252</link>
		<dc:creator>megan samuels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I respectfully disagree with your assessment of God&#039;s desire for Obama to be President...citing the first chapter of Isaiah.  Throughout the Bible God let His children go their own way and then allowed them to suffer the consequences of turning their backs on Him.  They learned from their mistakes just how much they needed God.  I do not believe that God desires Obama to be our President...for one he supports the murder of innocent unborn children.  I do however know and believe with all of my heart that God is still on His throne and that He is in control and that come what may as one of His children He will sustain me.  There are many promises throughout the Bible that assure me of this.  There are also NO promises in the Bible that the United States will always be a Nation or that nothing bad will ever happen here.  I pray for this nation that we would see exactly how far we have strayed from God and that we would realize just how much we NEED HIM!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-7252" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('7252', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-7252-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>I respectfully disagree with your assessment of God&#8217;s desire for Obama to be President&#8230;citing the first chapter of Isaiah.  Throughout the Bible God let His children go their own way and then allowed them to suffer the consequences of turning their backs on Him.  They learned from their mistakes just how much they needed God.  I do not believe that God desires Obama to be our President&#8230;for one he supports the murder of innocent unborn children.  I do however know and believe with all of my heart that God is still on His throne and that He is in control and that come what may as one of His children He will sustain me.  There are many promises throughout the Bible that assure me of this.  There are also NO promises in the Bible that the United States will always be a Nation or that nothing bad will ever happen here.  I pray for this nation that we would see exactly how far we have strayed from God and that we would realize just how much we NEED HIM!!!</p>
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		<title>By: C. Barton</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/11/gods-view-of-president-barack-obama/comment-page-2/#comment-7251</link>
		<dc:creator>C. Barton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Middle East will never submit to a New (West) World Order; the term &quot;Jihad&quot; means struggle, and if the truth be told it represents the struggle for Islam to dominate the world, even to the extinction of those who will not convert to Islam or become second-class citizens under their oppressive rule.
Whew!
In the Torah, it says that premeditated murder is even worse than killing by mistake, or by passion, so the term &quot;murder&quot; in God&#039;s judgement includes accidental manslaughter as well. War, then, must have a special sanction to be &quot;just&quot;; even Sun Tzu recognized as much.
Anyone care to study the judgement against Nineveh?  Put into modern terms, it sounds like an endictment of our own beloved United States.
As for Tehran, if you talk to one of the urbane Persians, he will most likely tell you, &quot;Oh, we love Americans, we just don&#039;t like your government&quot;, and yet we can see the same people yelling, &quot;Marg bar Amrika&quot; when in the common mob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-7251" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('7251', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-7251-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>The Middle East will never submit to a New (West) World Order; the term &#8220;Jihad&#8221; means struggle, and if the truth be told it represents the struggle for Islam to dominate the world, even to the extinction of those who will not convert to Islam or become second-class citizens under their oppressive rule.<br />
Whew!<br />
In the Torah, it says that premeditated murder is even worse than killing by mistake, or by passion, so the term &#8220;murder&#8221; in God&#8217;s judgement includes accidental manslaughter as well. War, then, must have a special sanction to be &#8220;just&#8221;; even Sun Tzu recognized as much.<br />
Anyone care to study the judgement against Nineveh?  Put into modern terms, it sounds like an endictment of our own beloved United States.<br />
As for Tehran, if you talk to one of the urbane Persians, he will most likely tell you, &#8220;Oh, we love Americans, we just don&#8217;t like your government&#8221;, and yet we can see the same people yelling, &#8220;Marg bar Amrika&#8221; when in the common mob.</p>
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