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	<title>Comments on: Friday&#039;s with Aquinas: Did Christ Rise Himself From the Grave?</title>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Sep 2010 22:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really enjoyed this article/question. Even more, I had pondered on the Soul of God, the uncreated Soul, of God: the I AM.  When I think about this, I am overwhelmed by the question or thought.  Was there ONE I AM?  Of course. Was there a created Soul &quot;Human&quot; in Jesus? I think so, yet, HE continually declared Himself to be the I AM, and perhaps the question of a human soul is beyond us really.
Yet, when I had read about some of these things online, it overwhelms the mind.  I think about Jesus&#039; Baptism and how the Holy Spirit came upon Him.  Yet, He was conceived by the Holy Spirit and begotten of the Father.  Then, Jesus says at the Last Supper, Unless I go away, the Holy Spirit can&#039;t come. And James 2:26 says that a spirit cannot live in a dead body.  So, when Jesus was dying on the cross, what did He actually mean when He said, Why have You forsaken me?  
Was this His I AM Soul or---and the Holy Spirit? 
And of course in John 4, Jesus referring to the Father said that God is Spirit.  In a radical sense, is the Holy Spirit ANOTHER Spirit, per radical views?  And I read, someone had said an interesting thing that stuck with me...that when today we may in visions see Jesus, are we in fact looking at Jesus or the Holy Spirit, for when we see the Holy Spirit, we are looking at the Father (I Am), the Holy Spirit, the Human Spirit of Jesus, and the manifestation of the Spirit that is carried out by the Soul.  In this thing I read, it said that the Soul needed either the Spirit or Body to manifest itself.
While I saw one flaw in all this, and that pertained to the resurrection of Jesus John 2:19-21 (and of course Gal 1:1), I still found that some of this was enriching to my mind for much of it makes sense to me in light of Scripture, regarding the Soul, Spirit, and Body, whether of God or People.
Perhaps some of our ponderings are in the perplexities of God entering a (temporary) created world versus the spiritual realm where He lives as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-40000" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('40000', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-40000-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>I really enjoyed this article/question. Even more, I had pondered on the Soul of God, the uncreated Soul, of God: the I AM.  When I think about this, I am overwhelmed by the question or thought.  Was there ONE I AM?  Of course. Was there a created Soul &#8220;Human&#8221; in Jesus? I think so, yet, HE continually declared Himself to be the I AM, and perhaps the question of a human soul is beyond us really.<br />
Yet, when I had read about some of these things online, it overwhelms the mind.  I think about Jesus&#8217; Baptism and how the Holy Spirit came upon Him.  Yet, He was conceived by the Holy Spirit and begotten of the Father.  Then, Jesus says at the Last Supper, Unless I go away, the Holy Spirit can&#8217;t come. And James 2:26 says that a spirit cannot live in a dead body.  So, when Jesus was dying on the cross, what did He actually mean when He said, Why have You forsaken me?<br />
Was this His I AM Soul or&#8212;and the Holy Spirit?<br />
And of course in John 4, Jesus referring to the Father said that God is Spirit.  In a radical sense, is the Holy Spirit ANOTHER Spirit, per radical views?  And I read, someone had said an interesting thing that stuck with me&#8230;that when today we may in visions see Jesus, are we in fact looking at Jesus or the Holy Spirit, for when we see the Holy Spirit, we are looking at the Father (I Am), the Holy Spirit, the Human Spirit of Jesus, and the manifestation of the Spirit that is carried out by the Soul.  In this thing I read, it said that the Soul needed either the Spirit or Body to manifest itself.<br />
While I saw one flaw in all this, and that pertained to the resurrection of Jesus John 2:19-21 (and of course Gal 1:1), I still found that some of this was enriching to my mind for much of it makes sense to me in light of Scripture, regarding the Soul, Spirit, and Body, whether of God or People.<br />
Perhaps some of our ponderings are in the perplexities of God entering a (temporary) created world versus the spiritual realm where He lives as well.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottL</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/10/fridays-with-aquinas-did-christ-rise-himself-from-the-grave/comment-page-1/#comment-7082</link>
		<dc:creator>ScottL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 17:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I would say this is a reference to the Holy Spirit, which is also at times referred to as the Spirit of God (the Father) and the Spirit of Christ. So, we could say the Trinity was at work together in the resurrection of the Son. I think it beautiful!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-7082" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('7082', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-7082-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>Yes, I would say this is a reference to the Holy Spirit, which is also at times referred to as the Spirit of God (the Father) and the Spirit of Christ. So, we could say the Trinity was at work together in the resurrection of the Son. I think it beautiful!</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa R</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 12:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carol, vs. 9 also refers to the Spirit of God.  I believe the Spirit referenced here is the Holy Spirit, the 3rd person of the Godhead and the theme of chapter 8.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-7081" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('7081', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-7081-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>Carol, vs. 9 also refers to the Spirit of God.  I believe the Spirit referenced here is the Holy Spirit, the 3rd person of the Godhead and the theme of chapter 8.</p>
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		<title>By: carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 02:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, if you read Romans 8:9-11 you will find that The Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead, which dwells in the saints, is none other than the Spirit of Christ or Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-7080" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('7080', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-7080-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>Scott, if you read Romans 8:9-11 you will find that The Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead, which dwells in the saints, is none other than the Spirit of Christ or Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: ScottL</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/10/fridays-with-aquinas-did-christ-rise-himself-from-the-grave/comment-page-1/#comment-7079</link>
		<dc:creator>ScottL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 11:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not saying Aquinas nor this article would disagree, but just noting that Romans 8:11 also suggests that the Holy Spirit was involved in the resurrection of Christ -

&#039;If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.&#039;


Thus, we have a beautiful work of the Trinity in the greatest work of salvation history!

You&#039;re awesome, God!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-7079" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('7079', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-7079-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>I am not saying Aquinas nor this article would disagree, but just noting that Romans 8:11 also suggests that the Holy Spirit was involved in the resurrection of Christ -</p>
<p>&#8216;If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.&#8217;</p>
<p>Thus, we have a beautiful work of the Trinity in the greatest work of salvation history!</p>
<p>You&#8217;re awesome, God!</p>
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		<title>By: bethyada</title>
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		<dc:creator>bethyada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 08:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know. I would suggest it was the Father thru the Spirit who raised him. I am not certain that John 10 contradicts this. &lt;i&gt;Authority&lt;/i&gt; to lay down one&#039;s life and take it up is not the same as the power that does so.

Shouldn&#039;t it be &quot;raise himself?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-7078" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('7078', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-7078-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>I don&#8217;t know. I would suggest it was the Father thru the Spirit who raised him. I am not certain that John 10 contradicts this. <i>Authority</i> to lay down one&#8217;s life and take it up is not the same as the power that does so.</p>
<p>Shouldn&#8217;t it be &#8220;raise himself?&#8221;</p>
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