Atheism
So, being bored, I made this out of another atheism poster:
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Joel on 03 Oct 2008 at 8:54 am #
This is awesome!
btw, the pic showed up in Google reader but it isn’t working here.??
Rebecca on 03 Oct 2008 at 12:08 pm #
I agree… on both points! It is great and I can only see it on google.
Seth R. on 03 Oct 2008 at 8:03 pm #
It showed up in Bloglines, but not visible here…
scott gray on 05 Oct 2008 at 6:53 am #
without false dichotomies, there’d be no cotomies at all!
whoot!!
Nate on 06 Oct 2008 at 1:43 pm #
So is this an actual atheist’s attempt to be clever gone awry, or is it someone’s deconstructive jab at atheism? It would be amusing either way, but I would like to see the source.
C Michael Patton on 06 Oct 2008 at 6:32 pm #
I made it.
It was in response to another one like it belittling Christianity.
joelpj on 07 Oct 2008 at 9:56 pm #
Classic!
Is there a link to the Christianity one?
Vincent on 08 Oct 2008 at 11:37 am #
That has got to be the longest run-on sentence I’ve ever read. It’s a bad caricature of atheists, but I’m more offended by the poor grasp of sentence structure.
Matt Gubser on 08 Oct 2008 at 2:06 pm #
You were on the right track right up until “atheism.”
No atheist would argue that the universe is without order. That’s absurd. Everything after the word “purpose” is pretty much nonsense, from the standpoints of both grammar and logic.
The picture is nice though.
C Michael Patton on 08 Oct 2008 at 3:07 pm #
Matt, thanks for the imput, but you did not really say anything substantial against the arguement. However, I did not think that an atheist would read this and say, “Hey, he is right!”
As for the grammer, folks, this is part of the “poster message” genre. Yes, it is a run on, but intentianlly so since it is in breathless conversational writing.
joelpj on 08 Oct 2008 at 5:44 pm #
Hey CMP,
I took the liberty to post your pic on a skeptic forum and asked what an atheist thinks of this.
Interesting discussion:
http://skepchick.org/skepticsguide/index.php?topic=14687
Matt Gubser on 08 Oct 2008 at 9:51 pm #
OK, I’ll bite ;).
I don’t want to put words into your mouth, so if I’m interpreting it differently than you intended, feel free to correct me on that.
The entire “argument” (if you even want to ascribe that title to what is essentially a snarky internet bumper sticker) is a straw man. There is no universal atheist doctrine, no atheist apostle’s creed. You’re trying to homogenize atheists and projecting something onto them that just isn’t there.
How do you define “order” in the universe?
You seem to be saying that there IS a universal morality. On what is that conclusion based?
You’re going to have to explain what you mean by “the ultimate emotional articulation of self-centeredness.”
Your “cover up and suppression of belief” in a personal God argument is a little silly. It is very efficient though as you’ve managed to beg the strawman. An atheist’s non-belief is purposed “fearfully” towards the suppression of the beliefs of others? How can an atheist be afraid of something they don’t believe exists? Why do you assume an ulterior motive to one’s non-belief?
Perhaps I’ve just been fortunate, but most of the atheists I’ve met have arrived at their conclusion, not out of fear or a need to suppress others, but because of the acquisition of knowledge, years of study, critical examination, and introspection. Knowledge will always be the enemy of religion. We leave the suppression and cover-up to you guys. You have more practice
C Michael Patton on 09 Oct 2008 at 12:04 am #
Matt, this was wrong for me to post in such a way.
I have added the original post so that people can see where I was coming from. It was in response to another poster from an atheist. I was trying to post with the same distaste.
At least now you (and others) can see how this arose.