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	<title>Comments on: A Test of Essentials and Non-Essentials</title>
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		<title>By: Joshua Tan</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/10/a-test-of-essentials-and-non-essentials/comment-page-2/#comment-58895</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2011 17:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>12 and 22 are mutually exclusive.

The Trinity doctrine  oneness of the three persons of God with a common will (as opposed to a shared will) with no disagreement (hence total agreement). This describes a triune God. (not monotheistic or polytheistic God)

We often lean to monotheism but monotheism is the belief in one (singular) God.  If you believe in the trinity then that God you believe in is not a singularity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-58895" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('58895', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-58895-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>12 and 22 are mutually exclusive.</p>
<p>The Trinity doctrine  oneness of the three persons of God with a common will (as opposed to a shared will) with no disagreement (hence total agreement). This describes a triune God. (not monotheistic or polytheistic God)</p>
<p>We often lean to monotheism but monotheism is the belief in one (singular) God.  If you believe in the trinity then that God you believe in is not a singularity.</p>
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		<title>By: Trying to know what is true &#171; Perennial Student</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/10/a-test-of-essentials-and-non-essentials/comment-page-2/#comment-6344</link>
		<dc:creator>Trying to know what is true &#171; Perennial Student</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 13:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But there&#8217;s a distinct lack of agreement on what is essential and what is not. (A previous post at Parchment and Pen, several months ago, explored what doctrines should be considered essential [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Kara Kittle</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/10/a-test-of-essentials-and-non-essentials/comment-page-2/#comment-6343</link>
		<dc:creator>Kara Kittle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok to clarify the Pentecostal thing

There is Trinity Pentecostal
There is Oneness Pentecostal
There is Charismatic
There are &quot;Bapti-costs&quot; (ones who hold to Baptist traditional ideas, but practice the gifts...this is what they are calling themselves in North Carolina.)
There are Independent Pentecostals (baptize either way...depending on who is baptizing that day).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-6343" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('6343', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-6343-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>Ok to clarify the Pentecostal thing</p>
<p>There is Trinity Pentecostal<br />
There is Oneness Pentecostal<br />
There is Charismatic<br />
There are &#8220;Bapti-costs&#8221; (ones who hold to Baptist traditional ideas, but practice the gifts&#8230;this is what they are calling themselves in North Carolina.)<br />
There are Independent Pentecostals (baptize either way&#8230;depending on who is baptizing that day).</p>
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		<title>By: Kara Kittle</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/10/a-test-of-essentials-and-non-essentials/comment-page-2/#comment-6342</link>
		<dc:creator>Kara Kittle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am describing my view as Pentecostal...my particular branch accepts the Trinitarian view as opposed to the branch that accept the Oneness view.

I am a Pentecostal who believes in the Trinity.</description>
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<p>I am a Pentecostal who believes in the Trinity.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Robinson</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/10/a-test-of-essentials-and-non-essentials/comment-page-2/#comment-6341</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you are describing your denomination or the trinity?  I don&#039;t see how a oneness Pentacostal belief adheres to the trinity so I&#039;m not clear on the need to make it denomination specific.  The trinity describes who God is.</description>
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		<title>By: Kara Kittle</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/10/a-test-of-essentials-and-non-essentials/comment-page-2/#comment-6340</link>
		<dc:creator>Kara Kittle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are Pentecostal and believe in the Trinity...we are not Apostolic Oneness like some other Pentecostals are. I think you would call us Charismatic but I don&#039;t identify with Charismatic.

Some Churches that are Trinity Pentecostal are
Assembly of God
Church of God, Cleveland Assembly
Church of God of Prophecy
Church of God in Christ (COGIC)
International Pentecostal Holiness
Church of God of the Mountain Assembly
Rhema (loosely though)
Word of Faith (again, loosely)
Non-Denominational
Various independent churches
Church of the Living God

We do have colleges and seminaries and have governments set in the churches as any other denomination does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-6340" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('6340', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-6340-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>We are Pentecostal and believe in the Trinity&#8230;we are not Apostolic Oneness like some other Pentecostals are. I think you would call us Charismatic but I don&#8217;t identify with Charismatic.</p>
<p>Some Churches that are Trinity Pentecostal are<br />
Assembly of God<br />
Church of God, Cleveland Assembly<br />
Church of God of Prophecy<br />
Church of God in Christ (COGIC)<br />
International Pentecostal Holiness<br />
Church of God of the Mountain Assembly<br />
Rhema (loosely though)<br />
Word of Faith (again, loosely)<br />
Non-Denominational<br />
Various independent churches<br />
Church of the Living God</p>
<p>We do have colleges and seminaries and have governments set in the churches as any other denomination does.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Robinson</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/10/a-test-of-essentials-and-non-essentials/comment-page-2/#comment-6339</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kara,

What is Trinity Pentacostal?</description>
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<p>What is Trinity Pentacostal?</p>
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		<title>By: Kara Kittle</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/10/a-test-of-essentials-and-non-essentials/comment-page-2/#comment-6338</link>
		<dc:creator>Kara Kittle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 20:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1.  (1)
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Trinity Pentecostal.

The thing about Eternal Security, if you claim it, you better live it.
Q#4...No man knows the day nor the hour so because we were not told when, the important thing is to keep watching and doing what we are supposed to do.</description>
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11. (6) I was confused, is this asking if I believe in purgatory? no<br />
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25. (2) the question did not ask of circumstances, such as teen-girls forced to by their parents. I would not hold the teen accountable in such a case, but her parents.</p>
<p>Trinity Pentecostal.</p>
<p>The thing about Eternal Security, if you claim it, you better live it.<br />
Q#4&#8230;No man knows the day nor the hour so because we were not told when, the important thing is to keep watching and doing what we are supposed to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Mar 2009 17:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. 1
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		<title>By: Random Thoughts - 10/17/2008 &#124; Kubecki.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random Thoughts - 10/17/2008 &#124; Kubecki.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:36:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Patton posts an intriguing test on the theological importance of various doctrines&#8230; At some point I may blog further on [...]</description>
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