Doctrinal Disagreement to the Glory of God
I am a Calvinist, others are Arminian. I believe in a premillenial eschatology, others are amillinial. I am a traducianist with regards to the creation of the soul, others are creationists. I believe in inerrancy, others believe that this is an archaic naive doctrine. There are many points of doctrinal division that I am going to have with people, some of which are much more important than others.
Why doesn’t everyone agree with me? Who is causing this disunity in the body of Christ, them or me? Do these division demonstrate the doctrinal bankruptcy of sola Scriptura? Should we elect of a Pope of Protestantism? Or could it be that God has a purpose in his allowance of disagreements?
There are a few different ways that I could answer this.
- Others don’t agree with me because they have not studied deep enough (lack of scholarship).
- Others don’t agree with me because they have not studied broad enough (lack of perspective).
- Others don’t agree with me because they have not studied long enough (lack of wisdom).
- Others don’t agree with me because their traditional prejudices have created a learning disability that keeps them from the truth (lack of freedom of thought).
- Others don’t agree with me because they have sin in their life that is blinding them to the truth (lack of holiness).
- Others don’t agree with me because we don’t have an infallible authoritative interpreter of Scripture that would bring doctrinal unity?
- Others don’t agree with me because they are not Christian. If they were, well . . . they would agree with me! (lack of salvation).
Generally speaking, I do not default to these possibilities. Don’t get me wrong, these are all possibilities. It could be that people deny the truth (assuming that my position is such) due to ignorance, lack of perspective or wisdom, traditional bindings, sin, lack of authority, or a presupposition of godlessness. But I think we need to be careful about any negative prejudgments about people motives and the ultimate reasons for disagreements.
Here are the considerations that I would aspire to make before I draw upon the former possibilities.
Others don’t agree with me because they are right and I am wrong.
Granted, I am convicted I am right. If this were not the case I would simply change my position. But the possibility always exists that I am the one who is in error, being misinformed, motivated by false pre-understandings, traditionally bound, or lacking perspective. I must consider this with great humility, as hard as it is to do.
There are some things that I am more sure of than others. For example, I am less likely to be wrong about the existence of God than I am about the doctrine of inerrancy. It is much more plausible that there is an error in the Scriptures than it is that God does not exist. As well, I am humbled by the fact that there are many things that I used to believe that I no longer believe. I held to these former beliefs with (what seems to be) just as much conviction as many of the beliefs that I hold to now. What do I do with that? In most of those cases, the evidence, or lack there-of, militated against my previous doctrinal commitments forcing me to make hard adjustments. For example, I used to believe that if someone did not accept the doctrine of inerrancy, they were not Christian. This was due to my fundamentalist presuppositions no doubt, but when faced with the evidence that there are many people out there who do not hold to inerrancy, yet loved and trusted the same Christ as me, my position had to either change or slumber in the bedroom of naivety. I still have those decisions to make. It is called learning.
What I must realize is this: there is not one belief that I hold to which is protected by infallibility. Infallibility is the other side of the coin of absolute certainty. Absolute certainty can only be held by those who have all the information and are interpreting it correctly. To be infallible means that you cannot fail. Since I am not infallible, by definition, I can fail. All of my beliefs are subject to my attribute of fallibility. There is no one who possesses infallibility. Even Roman Catholics, as we have said, who try to alleviate themselves of this reality by trusting in the dictates of an infallible magisterial authority such as the Pope inevitably face the same problem since their own trust in the infallible authority of the Pope is fallible. The same holds true for Evangelicals and our infallible Bible. Our belief in the Bible is fallible, even if the Bible itself is not. No one can escape their own fallibility. Therefore we all could be wrong. We are left to rely on a process of examining and weighting the evidence and following it wherever it leads. This will often cause us to change our beliefs.
Therefore, serious consideration must always be made of the proposition that people don’t agree with me because I am the one who is wrong.
Others don’t agree with me because God does not want us to agree, irrespective of who is right.
This may sound odd, but we must consider it. I said earlier that I was a Calvinist. While this does not give me exclusive right to the doctrine of God’s sovereignty, it does require me to consider what part it might play in the question Why doesn’t everyone agree with me? What I am really asking is this: Why isn’t everyone unified around the truth?
I believe that it is a real possibility—even likely—that God does not want absolute doctrinal unity. In fact, practically speaking, I think it would do more harm than good. I believe that doctrinal disagreements are healthy for the church. When there is conflict between opposing options, the issue at hand is understood at a more profound level than is possible in the absence of the conflict. Conflict, in the end, can bring about a deeper conviction of the truth. When there is no conflict, there is no iron sharpening iron.
I am not in any sense trying to relativize the truth, but to help us to understand that wrong beliefs, even our own, could be serving the purpose of God and bringing Him more honor than we recognize. It is often said that heresy is God’s gift to the church. Why? Because when a false option is presented the truth becomes much clearer. In contrast there is clarity. In clarity there is conviction.
It is for this reason that we must be continually engaged with alternative options. As hard as it is to engage in beliefs that go against our present convictions, we need to recognize the value of the struggle. Herein lies what I believe to be one of the greatest strengths of the Protestant doctrine of sola Scriptura—it presents the opportunity to wrestle with the issues at a level that is not allowed for in magisterial based traditions.
What I am saying is this: it may actually be God’s sovereignty that brings about division over the doctrine of God’s sovereignty! This does not mean that wrong belief is always justified. Neither does it mean that we need to be content with agnosticism or lessen our conviction about any doctrinal issue. To the contrary. It means that we engage in it more vigorously than we did before, being confident that God has a dignifying reason for conflict resulting from diversity.
We have learned to celebrate diversity in every area of life. We celebrate the diversity of the sexes. Men: We know that we are always right, but can you imagine a world where women did not contribute to a balanced perspective? That is horrifying. Women, can you imagine the opposite (don’t answer that!). Think of the diversity among personalities, nations, political parties, age groups, and cultures. While we may believe that our opinion is correct (and it may be), from a certain perspective we can appreciate the allowance for a dissension in values, beliefs, and practices. Understanding diversity can often cause us to see that the answer to many issues is going to be more of a both/and rather than an either/or. We could both be right and we could both be wrong.
In the end, if God is in control then the answer to my question is relatively simple. Why doesn’t everyone agree with me? Because it is not God’s will for them to. It is to His glory. Why? His will is better accomplished through diversity. In this I think we can learn to celebrate diversity without yielding to the postmodern matrix of relativism or apathy.
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Daniel Eaton on 18 Sep 2008 at 11:35 pm #
Michael, can you describe and give a brief defense of traducianist thought? It’s hard for me to figure out which category of disagreement I fall into when I don’t even know if I disagree.
C Michael Patton on 18 Sep 2008 at 11:50 pm #
In sum, it is the view of the soul that believes that the parents are responsible for its creation just as they are the body. God creates the soul indirectly through the parents. Creationists believe that while the parents are responsible for the body, God directly creates the soul without the use of a human agency.
Daniel Eaton on 19 Sep 2008 at 12:06 am #
As an identical twin, I’ve always had issues with the “creationist” perspective that says “the soul” comes at conception when a single conception can result in more than one person. Never heard of the alternative though. How would a traducianist describe the twinning process as it relates to souls? If the soul has a biological cause, did it start with two? If not, does splitting cells cause splitting souls? Maybe this is too off topic. Feel free to delete is and post about traducianist beliefs on Theologica or something. Don’t want to hijack your other thoughts.
Back on topic though, I think it can be summarized in the idea that if I can just get people to know and understand everything I do, they’d agree with me!
The idea that “they are right and I am wrong” or that God doesn’t necessarily care if we come to agreement never crosses my/our mind. Particularly in theology, we think any disagreement is wrong. I’ve actually been told this week that I shouldn’t expose someone to an alternate interpretation or translation because that causes confusion and God isn’t the author of confusion.
Peter on 19 Sep 2008 at 2:38 am #
Do you preach what you are convinced of but could be wrong about, or do you not preach in the name of unity?
Phil McCheddar on 19 Sep 2008 at 5:19 am #
Michael
I agree we usually understand a doctrine more clearly and deeply when we wrestle with opposing views, but I think non-Christians have given us plenty of tough arguments for us to wrestle with in order to whet our perspicacity. I don’t see why Christians need to argue amongst themselves to sharpen their iron, except perhaps in matters of secondary importance such as paedo/credo baptism where non-Christians don’t have much of an opinion.
And what about Paul’s exhortation to the Corinthians to “agree with one another so that there may be no divisions among you and that you may be perfectly united in mind and thought”? (1 Cor.1:10)
jun on 19 Sep 2008 at 9:42 am #
“Others don’t agree with me because God does not want us to agree, irrespective of who is right. / This may sound odd, but we must consider it. I said earlier that I was a Calvinist….In the end, if God is in control then the answer to my question is relatively simple. Why doesn’t everyone agree with me? Because it is not God’s will for them to.”
Finally a Calvinist who admits that Calvinism teaches that “God is not the author of peace, but of confusion, as in all churches of the Calvinists.” (1 Corinthians 14:33, Calvinist Standard Version) My trusty old KJV, however, still says “For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.” I think I’ll stick with it rather than switching to new fangled versions, whether written or unwritten.
Vladimir on 19 Sep 2008 at 6:14 pm #
Michel,
The idea of a preexitent soul has its origins in Plato and the idea of the inherent qualities that a mother or father may/and do impart to the child are mysteriously interwoven in the physical/spiritual idchotomy of the human nature makeup.
I don’t pretend to comprehend this complex and interwoven union, but its explanation is to be found in the unsearchable wisdom and abilities of God Almighty and His outworkings of His plan in time and space – as well as eternity.
Vladimir
C Michael Patton on 19 Sep 2008 at 6:20 pm #
Yes, the preexistence of the soul idea has its roots in Platonic philosophy and finds its way naturally into Gnosticism. Most of those in church history, that I know of, would say that preexistence theory is outside of the options of biblical anthropology. (At least in any eternal preexistence variety).
Pete S on 20 Sep 2008 at 12:43 pm #
Patton said: “Because it is not God’s will for them to. It is to His glory. Why? His will is better accomplished through diversity. In this I think we can learn to celebrate diversity without yielding to the postmodern matrix of relativism or apathy.”
Doesn’t this seem to be sort of a cop out? I mean, why, in a sense, “blame” God for the diversity? As a non-but-former-Calvinist, I can understand why you said this, but the noetic effects of sin remain. Not that I only rely upon that aspect either. It is just as much an issue of men’s inabilities to grasp ancient paradigms and a lack of evidence for exhaustive historical analysis.
I wonder if there is another flaw by assuming that postmodernism is only relativistic and breeds apathy. Key word there is “only.”
Coming from those two presuppositions may not allow for more options than what might actually be available.
I commend your effort to tackle this issue because I’ve encountered it numerous times.
Maybe what would have been more helpful is identifying productive means and proper heart attitudes to dialog. At what point does a dialog then remaining in disagreement just be left a disagreement with no one claiming victory but patience for more evidence in the future to solve the disunity? I don’t think that’s apathetic or relativistic. It just leaves things questionable untill the proper time. For the most part, I don’t think people are trying to be wrong. Both/and scenarios probably exist more than we realize too. Until the future paradigm is divulged tensions will remain, not because God wills it, but because of insufficient understanding/evidence/heart issues. I wonder if disagreement will occur in the eschaton for believers over issues just because, well, we are finite beings.
gfsomsel on 20 Sep 2008 at 12:45 pm #
While we Calvinists are rather doctrinally oriented and are a contentious lot, I don’t think that one’s theological position is truly indicative of one’s relationship with God though we tend to make it such in our arguments. When the NT was written, its authors did not admonish others to “have a right opinion” regarding God. True, there really must be a view which is correct (and which everyone knows is MINE !), what is called for is trust in God as he has revealed himself in Jesus Christ as the Church has conveyed him to us in the scriptures. This means that we are called to trust in the love of God for his creation. I really see little beyond this which is called for. We are not called to intellectually discern all of the intricacies of the Trinity and other matters. What we need is not orthodoxy but orthopistis. Why should we continue to abuse ourselves for our wrongdoings when we are taught that God still extends his love to us? In the gospels Jesus reserved his most scathing pronunciations for those who knew the Law and made it an instrument to oppress others but was most kindly and forgiving to the “sinners.”
jun on 23 Sep 2008 at 9:37 am #
“While we Calvinists are rather doctrinally oriented and are a contentious lot, I don’t think that one’s theological position is truly indicative of one’s relationship with God though we tend to make it such in our arguments.” (gfsomsel)
Actually, “one’s theological position” does impact his or her relationship with God. It matters whether what you believe is the gospel or Pagan fatalism. Nobody can truly love and adore the god of Calvinism, who has not a gospel (good new) but a baspel (bad news), who (if he were the real) decreed before creating Adam that Adam would sin just so he would have an excuse to deny humans free will and then he would be able to damn the majority of mankind not for any choice they made but because he decreed them to eternal damnation to fulfill his good pleasure of roasting people alive for doing what he decreed they would do and not allowing them to choose any different, and yet he would save a few also by decreeing it and making them to believe as robots seeing they also do not have a choice. This god inspires no love. You can’t have a relationship with him. And even if you could, it would be the kind of relationship you have with your computer or your cell phone, since if all this were true, you are no more than a robot to him. Without free will, human beings can’t have a relationship with God, and if God has not given us free will, then he isn’t worth having a relationship with. The gospel then is that although we have damned ourselves with our own personal sins, yet God loved us so much that he sent his Son to die to save us from sin, and by his shed blood we can be saved, if we will believe and accept his sacrifice as Isaiah 53:10 says “Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.” The “thou” in this verse is YOU. When you accept his soul as an offering for your sin, you become a spiritual child of his. This is the real gospel.
Jason on 23 Sep 2008 at 4:26 pm #
Why do people disagree with me?
Often because I just take a position at the other end of the spectrum from them just to see if they can defend their position.
I suppose I’m Socratic at heart.
C Michael Patton on 23 Sep 2008 at 4:30 pm #
A man after my own heart!
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Dudley Davis on 15 Apr 2009 at 9:27 pm #
I am a recent convert to the Reformed faith, a former roman catholic, I am now a Presbyterian. I find I am leaning more towards traducianists thinking in that soul-creation is a product of human procreation just as much as the physical body is.
Dudley
Kalyn on 04 May 2009 at 6:40 pm #
This is really an interesting topic. I had not really given it much thought as to the creation of the soul. To be honest, I had not heard of either side — I guess I just assumed that only Adam & Eve were created directly by the hand of God while the rest of us are ‘by products’ (can’t think of a better word right now), all aspects of us are a result of the procreation process of our parents. Since God did not create me by His hands as He did Adam & Eve but gave my parents the ‘ability’ to procreate and thus at the moment of conception, I had everything I ever needed to grow into a fully developed human being, the my soul was there at the moment of conception as a result of the procreation process of my parents.
I guess what I’m getting at is that my parents did not ‘create’ me per se since it is God who gave man/woman the egg/sperm to come together to create a human being. He gave the ingredients, they put the ingredients together much like if I buy a model airplane to put together, I have the ‘ingredients’ given to me but I assemble them. I don’t go back to the manufacture to get more parts — and I guess I don’t see God at some point after conception infusing a soul into the fertilized egg/sperm.
Anyway, that’s what I always thought though I honestly did not contemplate it nor study it. Whether I’m right or wrong, that’s been my view.
I think I talk too much and make something simple complex that it confuses even me.
Oi!