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	<title>Comments on: Those who commit suicide cannot be Christian . . .</title>
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		<title>By: tin</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/08/those-who-commit-suicide-cannot-be-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-22819</link>
		<dc:creator>tin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 14:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you so much for this post. this is very helpful. i went through depression and i have recovered. i am currently still undergoing counselling, which helped me a lot. i didn&#039;t have suicidal thoughts, though... why i went through depression even if i knew in my heart i did my best to love GOD with all that i have, is still a question i do not have the answers yet. but i guess i just have to live one day at a time... trusting that my GOD can handle things that i myself couldn&#039;t handle anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you so much for this post. this is very helpful. i went through depression and i have recovered. i am currently still undergoing counselling, which helped me a lot. i didn&#8217;t have suicidal thoughts, though&#8230; why i went through depression even if i knew in my heart i did my best to love GOD with all that i have, is still a question i do not have the answers yet. but i guess i just have to live one day at a time&#8230; trusting that my GOD can handle things that i myself couldn&#8217;t handle anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: shannon</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/08/those-who-commit-suicide-cannot-be-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-4625</link>
		<dc:creator>shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 05:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for speaking out and sharing your story.

I am someone who knows without a shadow of a doubt that there is a cure for suicide, and that is through scripture and nothing other than.

Thank you for using this site to speak your values, and talk about your heart breaking story. Thank you for your faith and your willingness to speak for our God!

Hugs!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for speaking out and sharing your story.</p>
<p>I am someone who knows without a shadow of a doubt that there is a cure for suicide, and that is through scripture and nothing other than.</p>
<p>Thank you for using this site to speak your values, and talk about your heart breaking story. Thank you for your faith and your willingness to speak for our God!</p>
<p>Hugs!</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 03:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful post, Michael.  I completely agree.

I feel so deeply for those who are contemplating suicide; I have struggled with depression and anxiety myself, though not severe enough to consider suicide.

Depression is incredibly hard to overcome... even with a strong faith.

I commend you for taking on such a sensitive topic (especially with the circumstances of your sister&#039;s death), and giving such a beautiful answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful post, Michael.  I completely agree.</p>
<p>I feel so deeply for those who are contemplating suicide; I have struggled with depression and anxiety myself, though not severe enough to consider suicide.</p>
<p>Depression is incredibly hard to overcome&#8230; even with a strong faith.</p>
<p>I commend you for taking on such a sensitive topic (especially with the circumstances of your sister&#8217;s death), and giving such a beautiful answer.</p>
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		<title>By: Kara Kittle</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/08/those-who-commit-suicide-cannot-be-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-4623</link>
		<dc:creator>Kara Kittle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 03:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know someone who did commit suicide. Well I know two people who did. It is sad and I do not understand it myself. It hurts family members so therefore it can&#039;t be ok, because Jesus came to bind up the brokenhearted, not make them brokenhearted.

I just don&#039;t understand. I am sorry that I don&#039;t but I will pray for you. That is the only thing I can say besides Jesus loves you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know someone who did commit suicide. Well I know two people who did. It is sad and I do not understand it myself. It hurts family members so therefore it can&#8217;t be ok, because Jesus came to bind up the brokenhearted, not make them brokenhearted.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t understand. I am sorry that I don&#8217;t but I will pray for you. That is the only thing I can say besides Jesus loves you.</p>
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		<title>By: C Barton</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Barton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 02:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. G., I presume your question is for value as debate and not your true stance on our Savior&#039;s death. To reduce this argument to its simplest, anyone who willingly faces lethal dangers for the good of others can be put in the same category?  Police? Firefighters? Our soldiers fighting Hitler in WWII?
Regarding Jesus: when He spoke during the last supper, He took the cup of wine and said that it was His blood of the new covenant. He often spoke openly of His shed blood and of His ultimate death on the cross.  In fact, so did Isaiah, David, Daniel, and most if not all of the OT prophets spoke of the necessary death of Messiah.
The Bible says that without spilling of blood there is no forgiveness of sin.
He is our passover lamb; He is our perfect sacrifice who needed to die.  He was submitting Himself to the will of the Father who ordained His death before time began.
His obedience cannot be an act of suicide, or else every martyr who died for the name of Jesus is one also.
&#039;Nuff said!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. G., I presume your question is for value as debate and not your true stance on our Savior&#8217;s death. To reduce this argument to its simplest, anyone who willingly faces lethal dangers for the good of others can be put in the same category?  Police? Firefighters? Our soldiers fighting Hitler in WWII?<br />
Regarding Jesus: when He spoke during the last supper, He took the cup of wine and said that it was His blood of the new covenant. He often spoke openly of His shed blood and of His ultimate death on the cross.  In fact, so did Isaiah, David, Daniel, and most if not all of the OT prophets spoke of the necessary death of Messiah.<br />
The Bible says that without spilling of blood there is no forgiveness of sin.<br />
He is our passover lamb; He is our perfect sacrifice who needed to die.  He was submitting Himself to the will of the Father who ordained His death before time began.<br />
His obedience cannot be an act of suicide, or else every martyr who died for the name of Jesus is one also.<br />
&#8216;Nuff said!</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. G.</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/08/those-who-commit-suicide-cannot-be-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-4621</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could Jesus have been considered a suicide?

He willingly went to the cross, to die?  And Christianity likes to say, it was a conscious &quot;sacrifice&quot;?  So ... Jesus was a suicide?  or very, very nearly? Half to three quarters?  Or since his powers as God, were total, since there could be no &quot;coersio&quot; of God at all, then his decision was total ... and therefore, entirely of his own will?

Therefore:  Jesus was a full suicide?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could Jesus have been considered a suicide?</p>
<p>He willingly went to the cross, to die?  And Christianity likes to say, it was a conscious &#8220;sacrifice&#8221;?  So &#8230; Jesus was a suicide?  or very, very nearly? Half to three quarters?  Or since his powers as God, were total, since there could be no &#8220;coersio&#8221; of God at all, then his decision was total &#8230; and therefore, entirely of his own will?</p>
<p>Therefore:  Jesus was a full suicide?</p>
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		<title>By: Deanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 04:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t realize there were so many of us who deeply loved the Lord and yet struggled with suicidal thoughts.  I&#039;ve been battling for 9 months, now.

One thing that I have experienced is that the closer I come to acting on the thoughts, the stronger the conviction of the Holy Spirit has been, and I&#039;ve always been able to call for help.

There are days that suicide seems almost like hope.  That&#039;s wrong.  My hope is in Him.  I think the worst part of being this depressed is that God seems so far away.  I can&#039;t see Him.  I can&#039;t hear Him.

Thank you for all your comments and thoughts.  They comforted me in my despair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t realize there were so many of us who deeply loved the Lord and yet struggled with suicidal thoughts.  I&#8217;ve been battling for 9 months, now.</p>
<p>One thing that I have experienced is that the closer I come to acting on the thoughts, the stronger the conviction of the Holy Spirit has been, and I&#8217;ve always been able to call for help.</p>
<p>There are days that suicide seems almost like hope.  That&#8217;s wrong.  My hope is in Him.  I think the worst part of being this depressed is that God seems so far away.  I can&#8217;t see Him.  I can&#8217;t hear Him.</p>
<p>Thank you for all your comments and thoughts.  They comforted me in my despair.</p>
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		<title>By: C. Barton</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/08/those-who-commit-suicide-cannot-be-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-4619</link>
		<dc:creator>C. Barton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 15:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember a little story about a woman who made that decision; she calmly placed a dozen pills in a row at the edge of her kitchen table, poured a glass of water, then paused to go upstairs to get her favorite string of pearls to wear in death.
She couldn&#039;t find the pearls.  She was so angry! She looked everywhere in her bedroom, and finally exhausted, she went back down to the kitchen to take the pills.
What she saw on the table made her tremble.
On the table was the pearl necklace where the pills had been. The pills were gone.
&quot;You looked so hard for those cherished pearls, and I will never quit looking for you, either!&quot; Said the Lord to her.
You see, he died for each of us individually, not just collectively.  He knows your name, your struggles, and He knows your future in Him.
Keep looking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember a little story about a woman who made that decision; she calmly placed a dozen pills in a row at the edge of her kitchen table, poured a glass of water, then paused to go upstairs to get her favorite string of pearls to wear in death.<br />
She couldn&#8217;t find the pearls.  She was so angry! She looked everywhere in her bedroom, and finally exhausted, she went back down to the kitchen to take the pills.<br />
What she saw on the table made her tremble.<br />
On the table was the pearl necklace where the pills had been. The pills were gone.<br />
&#8220;You looked so hard for those cherished pearls, and I will never quit looking for you, either!&#8221; Said the Lord to her.<br />
You see, he died for each of us individually, not just collectively.  He knows your name, your struggles, and He knows your future in Him.<br />
Keep looking!</p>
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		<title>By: Donna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 20:04:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have attempted suicide several times in my life. Each time my mental ability to rise above my oppression was just too great for me to overcome. You become so lost within yourself that you can no longer hear or see Christ non-the-less to call upon his strength in your weakness. You only have the hope that remains in your faith. I too believe that Heaven is still open for those in Christ, whether we overcome our pain or not. What stopped me.... no one or anything, my free will carried the action through… Christ sent others to me on two occasions when death was most likely imminent, and once there was just not reason that I did not die. What I believe now is the Lord himself will not let me bring harm to myself, even though my own hand has tried. He understands the why of what I do... I owe no other any explanations (except to those family and friends who love me, and whom I have hurt by my actions). He also knows that the one desire I truly have in my own heart of hearts.. is to one day be called before him and to be found naked and unashamed. It is he who will keep me for himself, and I will not see anything but love and acceptance in his eyes.

For others that completed the act... I believe they are with the Lord. Consequences in the form of lost rewards surly have befallen them, but an underserved crown (like all of us will receive) is still at their feet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have attempted suicide several times in my life. Each time my mental ability to rise above my oppression was just too great for me to overcome. You become so lost within yourself that you can no longer hear or see Christ non-the-less to call upon his strength in your weakness. You only have the hope that remains in your faith. I too believe that Heaven is still open for those in Christ, whether we overcome our pain or not. What stopped me&#8230;. no one or anything, my free will carried the action through… Christ sent others to me on two occasions when death was most likely imminent, and once there was just not reason that I did not die. What I believe now is the Lord himself will not let me bring harm to myself, even though my own hand has tried. He understands the why of what I do&#8230; I owe no other any explanations (except to those family and friends who love me, and whom I have hurt by my actions). He also knows that the one desire I truly have in my own heart of hearts.. is to one day be called before him and to be found naked and unashamed. It is he who will keep me for himself, and I will not see anything but love and acceptance in his eyes.</p>
<p>For others that completed the act&#8230; I believe they are with the Lord. Consequences in the form of lost rewards surly have befallen them, but an underserved crown (like all of us will receive) is still at their feet.</p>
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		<title>By: JRoach</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2008/08/those-who-commit-suicide-cannot-be-christian/comment-page-1/#comment-4617</link>
		<dc:creator>JRoach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have recently been struggling with the subject of suicide and how should I as a Christian handle my feelings of despair.  I have been a born-again Christian for about 25 years and I have experienced trials before.   At this time I constantly live with feelings of humiliation, failure, being pathetic, etc.  My wife and I have incurable chronic illnesses and I have a family member living with me that shows no respect in any way to me or my wife.  I have come to the point that I have no goals, dreams, hopes, etc.  Almost every part of my life is at rock bottom.  I understand the temptation to end it right now.  The only reason I have not done so is because it would devastate my wife, my niece, and my two nephews who all live with me.  I don’t want to do that to them.  I believe that God will see me through this and that this is part of His work of sanctification.  I am constantly battling between the flesh (end it all) and my spirit (God is working on me with His sovereign love).  Reading the scriptures on how Jesus and Paul suffered encourages me to hang in there and take one day at a time.  This is the best article on this subject that I have ever read.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have recently been struggling with the subject of suicide and how should I as a Christian handle my feelings of despair.  I have been a born-again Christian for about 25 years and I have experienced trials before.   At this time I constantly live with feelings of humiliation, failure, being pathetic, etc.  My wife and I have incurable chronic illnesses and I have a family member living with me that shows no respect in any way to me or my wife.  I have come to the point that I have no goals, dreams, hopes, etc.  Almost every part of my life is at rock bottom.  I understand the temptation to end it right now.  The only reason I have not done so is because it would devastate my wife, my niece, and my two nephews who all live with me.  I don’t want to do that to them.  I believe that God will see me through this and that this is part of His work of sanctification.  I am constantly battling between the flesh (end it all) and my spirit (God is working on me with His sovereign love).  Reading the scriptures on how Jesus and Paul suffered encourages me to hang in there and take one day at a time.  This is the best article on this subject that I have ever read.  Thank you.</p>
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