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		<title>By: Lucian</title>
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		<description>And what possible sin against the Holy Ghost, (Spirit -along with blood- being a symbol or element of LIFE) can be greater than those concerning LIFE itself: abortions, murder, killings, and suicide?


I am not telling You this in the spirit of discord or vain &quot;theo-talk&quot; ... I myself have suffered from depression (and anxiety) for two or three months beginning with Transfiguration (August 6) this year, and ending (for the most part) around middle to late October. -- If You don&#039;t understand Your sister, I do (unfortunately!). :-&#124; -- *DO NOT* (never ever!) reproach her for what she&#039;s done! No, I have NO idea how hard this is for You, ... but I DO know the Hell that I&#039;ve been thru (and implicitely the Hell that Your sister has been thru), and let me tell You this: I own my existence to God: no man of flesh and bones can stand even a few minutes (no, I&#039;m not being `poetical&#039; here) thru this unbearable pain, less alone survive it. -- and I only had it for a few months ... but Your poor sister had it for years and years ... Lord have mercy on us all! :-(

I am asking You to condemn the sin whilst not judging the sinner: it&#039;s tough, but (sooner or later) it has to be done. And try not to dispair or lose hope: God is merciful and judges each according to his own knowledge and power: He appreciated the two pennies of the widow more than the bags full of gold of the rich man.

Of course, one can respond to each of Your arguments and logically disprove them, but I don&#039;t think that that would touch upon the heart of the suject ... and I certainly don&#039;t want to bruise an already bleeding heart even more than it already is broken.

I am a sinner myself (and by this I don&#039;t mean it as in &quot;we&#039;re all sinners, etc&quot;) ... but I&#039;ve never tried to lie to myself about the sinfulness or gravity of my sins; and I think we all own at least this much to our fellow human beings, to ourselves, and to God, Who is the Truth.

And no, I don&#039;t think either You or Your father are suffering from depression: a heavy burden of grief, a huge amount of sadness: yes; depression: no.

And sorry for my blunt brutishness. (I hope to God You won&#039;t take this comment the wrong way, or sink even more in negative feelings). Please forgive me if these words of mine have saddened You, or if You feel like I&#039;m &quot;crossing the line&quot; here -- if so, then my deepest and sincere apologies ... but `&#039;crossing the line&quot; is what we do when we try to reach out to people, or try to help them in any way possible: &quot;Deep unto deep calleth&quot; (Psalm 42:7). May God bless You, and help You, and keep You, and hold You, and sustain You, and guide You, and guard You (and all Your loved ones) ! -- And sorry again for having nothing better to do than posting this exactly around Christmas time, when other kinds of comments, like merry season wishes, would probably be more appropriate ... :-(</description>
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<p>I am not telling You this in the spirit of discord or vain &#8220;theo-talk&#8221; &#8230; I myself have suffered from depression (and anxiety) for two or three months beginning with Transfiguration (August 6) this year, and ending (for the most part) around middle to late October. &#8212; If You don&#8217;t understand Your sister, I do (unfortunately!). <img src='http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':-|' class='wp-smiley' />  &#8212; *DO NOT* (never ever!) reproach her for what she&#8217;s done! No, I have NO idea how hard this is for You, &#8230; but I DO know the Hell that I&#8217;ve been thru (and implicitely the Hell that Your sister has been thru), and let me tell You this: I own my existence to God: no man of flesh and bones can stand even a few minutes (no, I&#8217;m not being `poetical&#8217; here) thru this unbearable pain, less alone survive it. &#8212; and I only had it for a few months &#8230; but Your poor sister had it for years and years &#8230; Lord have mercy on us all! <img src='http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I am asking You to condemn the sin whilst not judging the sinner: it&#8217;s tough, but (sooner or later) it has to be done. And try not to dispair or lose hope: God is merciful and judges each according to his own knowledge and power: He appreciated the two pennies of the widow more than the bags full of gold of the rich man.</p>
<p>Of course, one can respond to each of Your arguments and logically disprove them, but I don&#8217;t think that that would touch upon the heart of the suject &#8230; and I certainly don&#8217;t want to bruise an already bleeding heart even more than it already is broken.</p>
<p>I am a sinner myself (and by this I don&#8217;t mean it as in &#8220;we&#8217;re all sinners, etc&#8221;) &#8230; but I&#8217;ve never tried to lie to myself about the sinfulness or gravity of my sins; and I think we all own at least this much to our fellow human beings, to ourselves, and to God, Who is the Truth.</p>
<p>And no, I don&#8217;t think either You or Your father are suffering from depression: a heavy burden of grief, a huge amount of sadness: yes; depression: no.</p>
<p>And sorry for my blunt brutishness. (I hope to God You won&#8217;t take this comment the wrong way, or sink even more in negative feelings). Please forgive me if these words of mine have saddened You, or if You feel like I&#8217;m &#8220;crossing the line&#8221; here &#8212; if so, then my deepest and sincere apologies &#8230; but `&#8217;crossing the line&#8221; is what we do when we try to reach out to people, or try to help them in any way possible: &#8220;Deep unto deep calleth&#8221; (Psalm 42:7). May God bless You, and help You, and keep You, and hold You, and sustain You, and guide You, and guard You (and all Your loved ones) ! &#8212; And sorry again for having nothing better to do than posting this exactly around Christmas time, when other kinds of comments, like merry season wishes, would probably be more appropriate &#8230; <img src='http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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