The Thing Itself – Consequences of the Abortion Debate
Greg Cromartie
Host of Theology Unplugged
Ideas have consequences. The ideas passionately debated in Michael’s blog: Emergers On Abortion: Where Do You Stand? are no exception. We can discuss this issue until eternity without changing the consequences of the thing itself. That’s what I want to discuss here…“The Thing Itself.â€
Those who support abortion rights and those who would turn a blind eye to it including, sadly, many who name the name of Christ don’t deal with the reality of abortion. They’ll discuss women’s rights, Middle Assyrian Laws, poverty, Old Testament penalties for causing a miscarriage, population control and on. All worthy topics in and of themselves. But they don’t want to address what abortion is and what it does . . . the dismemberment and killing of an innocent human being. Indeed, how can one defend this?
Warning: very graphic images—adult supervision advised.







If one won’t or doesn’t consider these images how can he rightfully defend or even allow abortion—“The Thing Itself?â€
The abortion industry (And it is an industry, making millions of dollars killing for cash) knows that when America looks at “The Thing Itself,†America and even pro-choice activists will reject it. This is evidenced in the following statement made by Charlotte Taft, Dallas abortion provider, at a training workshop for the National Abortion Federation:
“…the same woman who Janie Bush was talking about, who was a Pro-choice activist in the Dallas Community, when she came into our clinic—we were inviting her to learn more about abortion—this is a quote from this woman, she said ‘if I believed that abortion was the deliberate ending of a potential human life I could not be pro-choice.’ I said ‘it would be best for you not to see a sonogram.â€
This statement was followed by laughter from the workshop participants.1 When America sees abortion it will reject abortion, not until.
Some will say this is uncomfortable, gruesome and sensational. I would agree. But, if these images are uncomfortable, gruesome and sensational for us, how much more uncomfortable, gruesome and sensational was it for the little ones in those images?
Yes, in a Constitutional Republic we must debate on theological, philosophical and legal bases to arrive at Just Laws. But to do so without “The Thing Itself†in view is to abandon a crucial component of the argument. Losing that, as we debate, we risk the injustice we currently have in America’s abortion tragedy.
And there is not only negative consequence for the child, after 35 years of legal abortion in America, evidence is mounting that abortion hurts women too. Look at the stories found on the “Silent No More Awareness Campaign†web site. These women had the idea drummed into them that abortion would solve their problem. To their horror the consequence was, months and sometimes years later, that they began to experience depression, despair, guilt and suicidal thoughts caused by the killing of their child. There is also mounting evidence that abortion is a cause of breast cancer.
The abortion “idea†has real consequences for real persons, child & mother.
So, in light of these consequences, what do we do about the abortion tragedy? The answer can only be that we fight it, on every front, with every means at our disposal.
We care for the mothers in unplanned pregnancies, we support the fathers, we disseminate pertinent information, we counsel outside abortion facilities, we volunteer at Crisis Pregnancy Centers, we pray for and befriend abortionists, we show and talk about “The Thing Itself†and we vote for the political candidates that will work to abolish this greatest injustice in our land. And that has consequences for all of us because a government that won’t protect a defenseless, unborn human being won’t protect you either.
To turn a blind eye to this injustice, even when supporting other good and just causes, invites the greatest of negative consequences to our country.
Here are some resources if you want to get involved in a more hands-on way:
http://www.silentnomoreawareness.org For those who are experiencing the consequences of your own abortion—you are not alone. Healing and grace is available here.
http://www.heartbeatinternational.org A non-political, Christian association of life-affirming education and pregnancy service providers with clinics around the world.
http://www.guysforlife.org A ministry whose mission is to support and mentor fathers in the midst of an unplanned pregnancy.
http://www.priestsforlife.org A Catholic site with comprehensive resources for all believers.
http://learninc.org The largest African-American Evangelical Pro-Life Ministry in the US. They have great articles here: http://learninc.org/page/articles.php And, here is an especially insightful L.EA.R.N. article on abortion and civil rights in the African-American Community (many compelling stats too): http://www.abortionfacts.com/learn/blacks_and_abortion.asp
Some of the phrases used in this post are courtesy of Father Frank Pavone. I produce his Evangelical radio program “Life on the Line,†and am indebted to him for helping shape many of the arguments cited here.
1From the audio CD “Fire & Ice†produced by Life Dynamics at http://www.lifedynamics.com. Â
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C Michael Patton on 09 Mar 2008 at 6:34 pm #
Greg, thanks for posting this. These pictures always leave me speechless. In theory, the “debate” distance one from the horrifying reality of the issue. As hard as it is to see these pictures, they are vital if there is going to be any true and informed beliefs. Must have been a hard first post! I hope we all listen.
JFrances on 09 Mar 2008 at 9:34 pm #
Wow, Greg. You are a courageous soul. Thank you.
Here is a bit of a transcript from a court testimony on partial birth abortion:
April 1, 2004: Judge Richard C. Casey and Dr. Timothy Johnson, plaintiff:
Casey asked Johnson if doctors tell a woman that an abortion procedure they might use includes “sucking the brain out of the skull.”
“I don’t think we would use those terms,” Johnson said. “I think we would probably use a term like ‘decompression of the skull’ or ‘reducing the contents of the skull.’”
The judge responded, “Make it nice and palatable so that they wouldn’t understand what it’s all about?”
“We try to do it in a way that’s not offensive or gruesome or overly graphic for patients,” Johnson said
AND
Here’s an additional quotation from Wendy Simonds’ book Abortion at Work: Ideology and Practice in a Feminist Clinic (New Brunswich, NJ: Rutgers University Press, 1996). This quotation comes from a clinic worker, “Risa,” and her reaction to handling the remains of aborted babies:
“I hate it when people put it together to look like a baby. I hate that…â€
Thank you, Greg, for not sparing this audience the truth!
kyle on 09 Mar 2008 at 10:55 pm #
Thanks Greg. Clearly, we are not dealing with “tadpoles” as some have suggested in prior posts. Can you tell us the age of the dismembered children above (as many have suggested you are not a human being until you are 5 months in the womb)?
Jason on 09 Mar 2008 at 11:32 pm #
It is a hideous thing. Even my practiced dispassion finds it to be revolting. But then I’ve always been anti-abortion.
I don’t know that the pro-abortion will change their ways with education though.
historic salve on 10 Mar 2008 at 5:24 am #
Kyle, the age of each fetus in the picture is listed on the web site that Greg linked to. The pictures are unspeakable. However, it’s good that most of the pictures are signed and confirmed to be genuine. One often hears online that the pictures are “faked.”
historic salve on 10 Mar 2008 at 5:31 am #
By the way, Greg, I don’t want to sound like I disagree, but I think we have to be careful. I think abortion is murder and there is no way to soften the term. These pictures need to get out to people. Still, it is easy to get carried away, because abortion is so evil, and make a tenuous link between something like breast cancer and abortion. That could potentially open us up to ridicule from people who have reason to disagree with that specific link. I realize this is a blog post and most of all, you’re trying to inform people, but I think it’s better not to mention it unless you can cite a particular study or at least a professional, as opposed to an entire web site.
Minnowspeaks on 10 Mar 2008 at 7:51 am #
My miscarried intact baby was at the most eight weeks old. I could count his/her fingers and toes.
David Pate on 10 Mar 2008 at 4:57 pm #
Who on this blog could cast a vote for a democrat after seeing
these pictures?
Truth Unites... and Divides on 10 Mar 2008 at 5:16 pm #
David Pate asks: “Who on this blog could cast a vote for a democrat after seeing these pictures?”
I know of one person on this blog who would and his name is Dan. He was forthright when he declared: “I’m a Christian and I support abortion.”
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Marvin the Martian on 10 Mar 2008 at 5:49 pm #
I know of one person on this blog who would and his name is Dan. He was forthright when he declared: “I’m a Christian and I support abortion.”
To quote Dan again…
“God is indifferent about most abortions, e.g. before the 5-month mark…”
Peregrine on 10 Mar 2008 at 9:13 pm #
It is bold to speak and show and hold to the truth! Thank you Greg.
For years it has been a debate on the side of the pro-lifers of “just how drastic should you be” and, “how far do you go” with this type of graphic truth? My question is “how drastic is the importance of life?” This is a life and death issue. I personally know and greatly respect a man who boldly put a graphic (pictures like these and worse) commercial on TV during the height of the playoff season of the Atlanta Braves in 1992, during the middle of the 4th game! Everyone was outraged, republicans and democrats. Yet they failed to realize the subject of their own outrage; the children in the pictures. People are embarrassed at the visual of whats going on, they are cut to the soul by the guilt of their admission that this is acceptable; their pride can’t handle the weight and they respond with outrage to distract from the main point.
But we should never lose hope! The tide is slowly turning as more are being made aware or simply acknowledging the facts. Good people are taking stands and it is having a positive effect on law and culture.
I don’t wish to ramble too long on the subject. Oh that we would all be so bold as Greg and others. Here’s a great link (non-graphic) to see what other bold people are doing around the USA:
http://www.personhood.net
Vitali Zagorodnov on 11 Mar 2008 at 2:25 am #
I saw the video before that contained all these pictures. And as much as I am against abortion, I think using these kind of pictures to fight abortion sends a wrong message that you can make people believe by a cheap appeal to emotions.
I can give a few examples of similar appeals:
1) I could be an atheist and collect all the images of miscarried (not aborted) babies, presenting them to Christians with a slogan: “Do you really believe in God that would allow this?”
2) I could be an atheist and if I could travel back to OT times and were able to take the pictures of all the men, women and children destroyed by Israelites when they were taking possessions of the land, I could have presented them with the same logo as above.
I guess my point is that strong appeal to emotions without the mind can be manipulating. We should think twice before using it. Michael had a great intellectual post on abortion recently. We need to see the pictures and read Michael’s post at the same time!
Minnowspeaks on 11 Mar 2008 at 7:15 am #
Hate to be a wet blanket but I think the picture just innoculat us to the horror. How many mass shooting have there been since VIrgina Tech? That was on the news for a week or more. The next one lasted barely a day. Caring about the people making these dwcisions one person at a time will slow the abortion mill. Making it illegal to profit from abortion financially will stop it even faster.
Jason on 13 Mar 2008 at 5:32 am #
I do agree with Vitali that “argument from outrage” is a rather blunt implement, but given that I don’t hold that God’s knowledge of each sparrow falling results from His decision to kill it He is likewise not the author of miscarried children.
That would go back to Adam, Eve, the Fall and the Curse.
The images do tell the true story of human inhumanity. A degree of exposure is not out of the question. Don’t make it the only argument though.
ChestertonianRambler on 14 Mar 2008 at 8:31 am #
I’m actually kinda with Vitalli.
It is perhaps helpful to think of the abortion struggle as a war. Not a war in the sense of “hi, ho, Silver away!” nor a war in the sense that we should start killing people, but a war in the sense that strategy and restraint are the keys to victory.
I’ve had a lot of discussions about abortion in my life. The worst was with a rape victim who had chosen to go through with the pregnancy (and give the baby away for adoption). She said she would do the same thing again–but she was scarred enough by the situation that she could never go through the process again.
In such conversations, when the issues have become subjectively muddled even if they are objectively straightforward, I think grace is essential and utterly paramount. Presentation of the graphic facts do have a place–but it should be done with an awareness that not everyone shares the same perspective, and some people will see such images as an assault on their emotions rather than a simple presentation of the truth.
In those cases, harsh rhetoric and violent images may only widen the division–whereas grace-seasoned dialog may open new doors to the discussion.
JeannieM on 22 Mar 2008 at 2:48 am #
I think that these pictures are very useful. Women are told that their baby is only a blob of tissue, these pictures show them the truth. 25 years ago, I let myself be led silently to the slaughter house, because I believed the lies and thought others knew what was best for me. If I would have seen these pictures before, I doubt that I would have reacted the same. These pictures are horrible, I can barely look at them, because of what I had done, but they are also the truth. That is what I called informed consent.