The Removal of My Ordination
As most of you probably already know, I moved from Frisco Texas to Norman Oklahoma in October. Norman is just north of Edmond OK where my family lives. I came here to help take care of my mother who suffered from an aneurysm and a stroke nearly two years ago. Her condition is stable, yet she is mentally and physically incapacitated.
I was very conflicted about the move. While I knew that my family desperately needed me for encouragement and support, Texas had become my home. I had been there for nearly ten years, arriving late in 98′ to enter seminary. Texas presented me with a new life. All four of my kids are Texans. That is where I received my theological training at Dallas Seminary. It was where I was ordained at Stonebriar Community Church. It was where I pastored over a flock entrusted to me for six years at the same church. It was where I began The Theology Program and where Reclaiming the Mind Ministries had its birth. They trust me in Texas. It was where I became a man of God. It was were I was really a pastor.
Oklahoma, on the other hand, was a closet. In that closet lay insecurity, fear, timidity, and shame. It is a closet linked with my old life of a relentless pursuit of . . . (ahem), other things. It was the place I grew up. It is the place where people know better. They know the real Michael Patton.
When I began to pursue what I felt was my call to ministry, I know what people thought. “Oh, Michael Patton—going to be a man of God now? A minister? Riiiggghhhhttt.” I could see it in their eyes, “Who died and left such a desperate vacancy that Michael Patton has to fill it?” “We will see. We know who you really are.” No one ever said these things, but this is what I thought they were thinking. Could it be a guilty conscience? Could it be insecurity in my call? Could it be that my compulsive personality always goes to such extremes and this is compensation for my former life? Not sure.
I have always sensed a trepidation about my returns to Oklahoma. During visits before our family tragedies, I was always relieved to get back to Texas. While in Oklahoma people would treat me as a pastor. This I was. “Michael, do you want to pray before we eat?” Well, no not really. I really did not. Why? I don’t know. Fear? Guilt? A deep enter sense that they would find me out? Was I a charlatan?
Praying around my father has always been the worst. I felt like an either-year-old kid again. Scared and with a scattered mind, I would do my best to say something spiritual before a meal. Not to God, but to my dad. I know. I will just pray like my mom did. But dad always gave her a hard time for her prayers. It is better if I just stay silent. Please don’t ask me to pray. Please don’t suppose that I have anything spiritual to say simply because I went to seminary and am a pastor. I am not a pastor here.
Now I am back in Oklahoma permanently. My dad morns each day for my mother and sister. My family looks to me for support. Why do I feel so young and immature? Can I be a pastor in Oklahoma? Why does crossing the Red River seem to remove my ordination?
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connie @ Practicing Theology on 12 Jan 2008 at 2:19 am #
For what it’s worth, I was born and raised in Oklahoma–graduated high school in Edmond. The Lord saved me during college, I got married and guess where my husband planned to attend seminary–DTS. Our visits home to Edmond and the OKC area were often stressful for me as I had no idea who I might run into–I had covered quite a bit of territory in my high school and college days! I no longer worry who I might run into, as God has graciously given me opportunities to run into a few of my old friends and acquaintances and He gave me the necessary grace to show them and tell them why I was different–even gave a brief testimony in my 10th year high school reunion bio. book. May He grant you those opportunites for His glory!
Chad Winters on 12 Jan 2008 at 3:12 am #
Its interesting that Jesus faced a similar situation when he returned home. (Although I assume he had less fear and trepidation
Matt 13:53-58
Now when Jesus finished these parables, he moved on from there. Then he came to his hometown and began to teach the people in their synagogue. They were astonished and said, “Where did this man get such wisdom and miraculous powers? Isn’t this the carpenter’s son? Isn’t his mother named Mary? And aren’t his brothers James, Joseph, Simon, and Judas? And aren’t all his sisters here with us? Where did he get all this?†And so they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his hometown and in his own house.†And he did not do many miracles there because of their unbelief.
JoanieD on 12 Jan 2008 at 7:53 am #
Good point, Chad. And I have a feeling that many of us share in Michael’s condition of being made to feel like the child we were when we return to the hometown of our childhood. We are now a entirely different person, but our family and friends were not there to see all the changes and haven’t made the necessary shift in understanding or we don’t know how to relate to them in the way that we really are now.
And Michael, I am wondering if you will move back to Texas after your mom passes on. Do your children miss Texas? I have a few online friends from Texas and I can tell they love Texas as much as we Mainers love Maine!
Joanie D.
Scott on 12 Jan 2008 at 8:24 am #
Michael,
You shouldn’t worry about running into old friends and acquaintances…look at these meetings as opportunities to be the best witness for Christ that anyone can be, a radically changed life. Like Connie (above) your life is a perfect example of just how strong and life-altering God’s Saving Grace can be. Your, shall I say, wild past is your best witness! You should be proud of your changed life.
Ruth Tucker on 12 Jan 2008 at 8:59 am #
You’re a good writer, Michael—-especially with titles! You had me fooled. I actually thought you’d been defrocked, until I read your last sentence. (I’ve always been a sucker for juicy scandal!) I went back and read your personal story. I’m telling you, friend, you gotta writer your memoir.
richards on 12 Jan 2008 at 9:04 am #
Michael,
I was reading Michael Bird’s blog, and he has posted an encouraging quote from Calvin:
“Since then he arms and equips us by his power, adorns us with splendour and magnificence, enriches us with wealth, we here find most abundant cause of glorying, and also are inspired with boldness, so that we can contend interpidly with the devil, sin, and death. In fine, clothed with his righteousness, we can bravely surmount all the insults of the world: and as he replenishes us liberally with his gifts, so we can in our turn bring forth fruit unto his glory.”
ICR II.15.iv.
http://euangelizomai.blogspot.com/2008/01/reading-calvin.html
I can’t begin to understand the torrent of emotions you are experiencing, but I hope you take comfort in Calvin’s devotional words.
Lisa R on 12 Jan 2008 at 9:18 am #
Michael,
I would say this is not a loss of your ordination but a strengthening of it. It is easy to um, perform and lay out our strengths to audiences that have only witnessed the bright, spiritual side. We have an idea what they think…this guy is alright, man what a pastor and leader and can he teach! They can take you serious because they don’t know the other part. But the expectation shifts for those that really know. So maybe its not so much their ability to take you serious but the expectation that they won’t, despite the outward treatment as a pastor. And sometimes that’s the hardest thing to overcome.
I also think these situations cause us to examine how much reliance has been on our abilities rather than on God’s.
Tim Ashcraft on 12 Jan 2008 at 10:18 am #
I’ve sometimes felt the same way around family, especially around my dad, who didn’t always have confidence in me that I was really following the Lord. But over the years I’ve realized something that has helped me deal with that kind of discouragement: When family, and especially old friends, think such things about me, they are assuming a position and authority they don’t possess. Our Lord’s own family thought He had lost his mind and went to bring him home. But his reply was: “‘Who are my mother and my brothers?’ And looking about at those who sat around him, he said, ‘Here are my mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of God, he is my brother and sister and mother.”‘ (Mark 3:33-35) Our families sometimes imply the rebuke: “Get off your high horse and come back to us, where you belong.” When they do this, they are speaking from the position of a merely natural relationship. But God has a greater claim on us. Take courage, brother! We don’t know who in our family might be pondering these things in his or her heart. Even the Lord’s own natural brothers didn’t believe in Him…until later.
Dr Fin on 12 Jan 2008 at 10:28 am #
It seems that the problem, Michael, is not what people in OK think of you; the problem is what you think of you. The truth is, the people back home - including your family - don’t know you any longer and, for your part, you don’t seem to remember that you have grown up and changed.
I live in TX but grew up in IN, and I used to feel the same shame that you have described whenever I went back. After awhile, though, I realized that who I had been is not who I am now. And that who I am now is not who I will be.
I don’t deny that I did any or all of the things people remember, nor do I deny that I am still capable of such behavior now: all I have to do yield to the flesh. But, by the grace of God and the power of his Spirit, I am different.
You need to become familiar with and convinced about who you are now, not who you once were. We’ve all got skeletons. Accept it, admit it, and remember who you are now, not who you were then.
Kaewa on 12 Jan 2008 at 11:04 am #
Michael,
We are ‘all sinners but for the Grace of GOD’…..and thank GOD there is God’s Saving Grace or there would be no hope for any of us.
This may sound a bit odd but sometimes I feel it puts some people more at ease when they realize ‘you’ are human (not perfect) and that you were not born on a pedestal or podium. To me, they can feel more like there is hope for them as we are all created equal. People need to be able to relate and not feel like “I could never be as good as ‘him’ ” …a self-defeating feeling people tend to adopt. People need to set their sights on GOD and not on man…that being said…without your ‘wild past’ and GOD I don’t feel you would be where you are at today, doing what you are doing and helping so many of us.
I agree with Lisa as I would consider this more as a growth and strengthening or your ordination than a loss of it.
Excellent comment Chad…thank you
This forum has been such a help to me with the various topics and comments…thank you everyone for all of your hard work and input
kolabok21 on 12 Jan 2008 at 11:33 am #
You know we all have difficult choices to make in life, you know what? So what. As long as you are focused on the Cross of Christ your journey and that of your family is engulfed in the promises of God. By faith we stand by doubt and disbelief we fall, of the latter you have neither. You have come a long way baby as the old cliché goes.
I Think Dr. fin make a valid point that is crucial to all and more so than that is the belief that some times our beliefs are tested and tested extremely in some circumstances to better shape our faithful witness to the world for God’s sovereignty.
I also was in one place in a familiar place that was home for me since birth. But later on moved to another place and it became home. The thing is in both places everything has changed (associations, friends, pleasures and so on), I know no one any more in the place of my youth (grand parents place) and now in this place I call home most have moved on, died in some cases and the place has mushroomed from a quite country setting to a outreach from the nations capitol 45 miles S.
All this to say now life is surrounded by fellow brothers & sisters in Christ. Church is (needs some work here) a family orientated (the kind mom & dad know) place. People came to church on Sunday to find out what was going on the rest of week.
Friends and acquaintances do not wish to hear the “good news†and I don’t push it or seek them out. They see the change in me and that probably is the biggest challenge, to stay the course as Paul preaches.
So my brother stay the course be the light to the world no matter where you are and in the extreme environment be the salt to the nay sayers and disbelievers.
You will persevere
Bryant
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michelle on 12 Jan 2008 at 12:42 pm #
We did this in ‘92 - moving from Nazarene Theo. Sem. in KC, MO back to Dallas. Very difficult when your family and friends still see you as the child they knew. We moved to complete seminary at DTS - never worked out - life got in the way.
I’m not sure if family ever sees you other than the child they knew. They look at you like you’re some new specimen, some foreign creature they can’t figure out. Thankfully, we know we’re different, we know we’ve grown, and, most importantly, God sees it all and totally understands.
M. Jay Bennett on 12 Jan 2008 at 1:05 pm #
Thanks for sharing this Michael. I was talking with a friend yesterday about a very similar struggle I experience every year when my family makes the trek back to visit our extended family in Georgia. I can identify with the awkwardness of being thought of as the “pastor” by people you grew up with.
John Elliott on 12 Jan 2008 at 2:21 pm #
Michael,
You will always be my pastor. Cherissa and I wish you and your family all the best in Oklahoma.
I wish I could say that I am amazed at the growth and impact Reclaiming The Mind Ministries is having on people’s lives, but I knew that the Lord would use you in a mighty way due to your obedience to His Word, your family, and your calling.
Grace,
John
Saint and Sinner on 12 Jan 2008 at 4:46 pm #
Mike,
I read your testimony and thank God for it.
We all need to be reminded of the paradox in the doctrine of sanctification. The more we strive to fulfill God’s law as if we were going to be punished, the more we fall into sin. The more we realize that sin no longer matters to us and throw ourselves upon God’s free forgiveness, the more we progress in a life of holiness.
I needed to be reminded of that.
As to you going back home, I would suggest that it is a possibility, in God’s providence, that He let you live that former life, saved you, and brought you back home in order to show to those who knew you the contrast of what you were to what you are now, all to the glory of God.
Don’t focus upon yourself, but instead, use this as an opportunity to proclaim the free acceptance in Christ.
…
Now, I just need to follow through with my own suggestions.
God Bless,
The other simul iustus et peccator: S&S
Eric W on 12 Jan 2008 at 9:23 pm #
Re: mealtime prayers: Discovering/embracing the liturgy and the historical/standard prayers of the church alleviates much fear re: what to pray. It has already been “done” for you, and when you say the prayers, you join the millions of others around the world who are doing and saying the same things. The focus is right, the words are right, and you are never at a loss for what to say or how to say it.
Robb Hand on 12 Jan 2008 at 10:39 pm #
Michael,
After I read your post I racked my brain to find the “magic bullet” that would settle your anxieties.
I couldn’t find one.
I do know that I too find that there are times when it is not me, but a young child standing before a group, a friend, a colleague, being asked to come up with something spiritual.
Sometimes I want to say, “The only thing I have for you today is that I am hurting and afraid.”
So were the disciples and Jesus took good care of them. He even sent the Helper for them (and us!)
The thought has just occurred to me:
While your temporal Father may have frightened you, your Heavenly Father stands there with an open hand, tender yet strong. He desires to place your hand in His that He might give you the strength and affirmation you need. You are His child. It is this Father that has called you and ordained you. He loves you.
What a great God He is that He embraces us, especially when we are afraid.
djohn on 12 Jan 2008 at 11:24 pm #
Dr Fin wrote “It seems that the problem, Michael, is not what people in OK think of you; the problem is what you think of you.”
We often get scared when we reflect back on who we were or even go back to the places we have run from escaping that past in search of something new. The facts have been stated in many posts here today. You have been a great inspiration for me since I’ve stumbled upon this site and I dont think it really matters what others remember but what you know about yourself now. In this gives great testimony to those you come in contact with including your dad.
Be strong young jedi
your theology is strong
and it seems you have a lot of friends here that really care about you.
May God continue to bless you and keep you and your family!
C Michael Patton on 12 Jan 2008 at 11:27 pm #
It does seem that I have a lot of friends. You guys are great. The comments have been kind, understanding, and helpful. Thank you!
Kaewa on 13 Jan 2008 at 12:57 am #
Michael,
No matter how old we are in chronological years we are all still children inside and to be a child of the King is a great privilege. It is a never ending challenge to be a child and an adult at the same time. Embrace it and run with it and keep doing what you are doing with GOD as your Father and guide.
Thank You again and God Bless!
bethyada on 13 Jan 2008 at 1:41 am #
Michael, thanks for this post, I likewise returned to your testimony and found it interesting. With regard to returning to your home state I had some ponderings. I don’t know you, and your father even less, and this may be way off mark, but here goes…(delete if inappropriate)
Don’t underestimate how your shift may affect you father. He may be a person of few words but that does not mean he is unobservant. He knows his earlier drinking behaviour and he also knows your similar previous lifestyle. Seeing who you now are (in Christ) and how you care for your mother and cope with her illness (in comparison to his coping) may have an enormous impact on him for the Lord.
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Miles on 13 Jan 2008 at 2:43 pm #
Pastor Michael,
You are what God called you to be. It doesnt matter where you are. If He called you, even the ordination doesnt matter. Its a man made thing. Its good, its important, but regardless of a piece of paper, or even men laying hands on you…. you are still whatever God called you to be.
Be the shepherd. Even if it seems as though your flock is not a flock. I was the manager of a homeless shelter for several years. Many of them were Muslims, some where Believers, who werent really following their faith. On the other hand, some were. No different than what you will find in a church on Sunday or Wednesday. Regardless of any circumstance…. I was their pastor- the one who nurtured them and showed them the Love of Jesus. Thats what God called me to be… so I was.
You are still Pastor Michael, because its what God called you to be.
Miles
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ChadS on 14 Jan 2008 at 11:56 am #
Michael,
I’ve heard it said several times before and elsewhere that when a person feels at their lowest, most insecure and most unsure of themselves that at that moment they are poised to make a strong and definite growth in their spiritual life — this is a time where God could be working mightily in their lives. Is it possible you are poised to make a similar growth at this time?
Perhaps instead of questioning your ordination or your ministry perhaps God is asking you to consider a new or different direction in your ministry?
I don’t know what God has in store for you but this questioning can be a good thing with many positive and fruitful results.
ChadS
Gage Browning on 14 Jan 2008 at 3:10 pm #
Michael,
I appreciate your story very much. God’s sheep and shepherds are in need everywhere. Even in Oklahoma.
Now for a little levity from a Texan…from the movie “Say Anything”.
“I’ve glimpsed your future and all I can say is - go back.”
Gage Browning
Post Tenebras Lux
Apostle Dr C.N. Turrell ThD DD PhD on 29 Jan 2008 at 6:23 pm #
My Dear Brother Pastor, Sometimes we find it hard to work and be the Preacher that we were called to be in our home state or city.
Everyone knows me, how can the be a Preacher there?
And yes, there are times we feel like we can’t do a thing and feel like a child again.
But by the Grace of the Father in Heaven, Hallelyah!, we can do what is impossible.
Remember the Scripture, “If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed ye shall see the mountains moved.”
The mountain before you brother, is the family, the city, etc. where you live.
What you will have to do is pray, and let Him take control of the way you feel and make you strong in your faith, and make become the preacher your suppose to be.
In nearly 32 years of Ministry there is times when I act like I am new at being a Preacher, or new to Religion.
That is only human nature.
But like what was said years ago in the Pentecostal Churches, Pray, Pray, & pray till the power comes down.
And stay on your knees until you get the power, and the anointing that you need to be the Minister you were called to be.
All I can do is pray for you.
In His Service,
Dr. C.N. Turrell, ThD,DD,PhD
Chief Apostle, Presiding General Overseer
Universal Temple, A.T.M.W.