Primer on Evangelizing Postmoderns
Millard Erickson has a book called Postmodernizing the Faith where he summarizes the different approaches that the Christian community is taking in response to the postmodern plight. I blogged on this last year, but thought I would advance some of my thoughts. I think it is a great and valuable study that helps us approach a sensitive issue in an understanding, irenic, and profitable way.
The question is How do we as Christians engage a postmodern way of thinking? More specifically, how do we change the postmodern—or do we?
Erickson uses the illustration of leading a horse to water. It is very helpful. I will continue to use this illustration, but adapt them for my post. Please take note that in this illustration, the horse is the postmodern and the water is the Gospel.
Option 1: Deny the horse is really postmodern.
Option 2: Convert the horse from being postmodern.
Option 3: Change the rope.
Option 4: Change the water.
Option 1: Deny the horse is really postmodern.
The idea here is that no one can be a consistent postmodern. We simply need to convince them of the untenability of their professing worldview and show them how they don’t hold to it in reality.
This option is held by many in the Reformed tradition, especially of those who hold to a presuppositional apologetic. Presuppositional apologetics seeks to make a defense of the faith offensively by helping people to understand that God is the presupposition behind all truth and knowledge. The idea is that without God, there is no such thing as an argument or a rational thought. He is required before any claim to truth can be made or any view can be held with conviction. There is a lot more to it than this, but hopefully this explanation will suffice for now. The most popular adherent to such an approach, especially when it comes to the issue of relativism, was Francis Schaeffer.
With regards to the issues surrounding Postmodernism, this option assumes that the postmodern is a hard relativist (i.e. does not believe in the existence of truth). This approach says that we yield too much ground when we concede that the relativist or “hard skeptic†really holds to this philosophy since in order to do so they assume God as the very basis for their ability to doubt or deny the truth. Their logical reasoning shows that they already believe in the God of the Bible who is the presupposition behind all logical reasoning. As the old saying goes, “chaos cancels reason.†If there are reasons for relativism, this cancels relativism.
Those who opt for this option would not necessarily deny the following options, but they would say that we have to present the case as it stands, and as it stands, no one is really postmodern.
I do think this view has its place and deserves consideration. Yet I think the issues run much deeper than confining postmodernism to relativism. In fact, I think the ethos of the culture is not relativistic, but made up of varying degrees of skepticism and doubt. See my paper here which distinguishes between hard and soft postmodernism. I believe that our culture today is legitimately confused about truth, not necessarily denying its existence altogether.
Option 2: Convert the horse from being postmodern.
Here the desire is to create common ground in epistemology (the way we come to know truth), then the postmodern will be able to drink the water.
This option is very much like the first, but does have some major philosophical differences in approach. Like the first, this approach starts with the assumption that postmodernism is essentially evil and antagonistic to the Christian faith, associating it completely with its tendency toward hard relativism (the belief that all truth is relative). But there is a distinction. While the first option did not accept the notion that a person could actually be relativistic in their epistemology, this option does.
According to advocates of this approach, people hold to contradictory systems of truth all the time. Polytheism, for example, is self-contradictory since it does not make room for a first-cause or a necessary being. Yet many people throughout time have adhered to a polytheistic worldview. The Christian’s job, according to this option, is to create a common intellectual ground from which evangelism can take place. Many times this will involve attempting to convince someone of the existence of a perfect, personal, all-powerful, necessary being from whom all things have their being. Once this is accomplished, then there can be a conversation where a transcendent reality, whom we call God, is creating a meta-narrative to which all truth must correspond. This God is the God of the Bible. Typical biblical apologetics can be used once the common ground has been created.
Some adherents of this view might be R.C. Sproul or Norm Geisler. While option one was identified with presuppositional or reformed apologetics, this option is taken by those who follow a more classical apologetics approach popularized by Thomas Aquinas.
I believe that this approach, like the last has its merits. I think it recognizes that people’s thinking can become corrupt due to sin and bad influences within the culture (noetic effects of sin). But I must contend with its understanding of the postmodern ethos. Again, I think that it is too simplistic to identify the problem and solution upon the assumption of hard relativism. I don’t think that the average person is truly a hard relativist either in confession or practice. I think better designations are skeptical and suspicious. They do not trust other people’s claims to knowledge and therefore are normally not open to listening to their arguments. At the same time, I do believe that there is going to be a necessary time and place for this type of argumentation, but only once we have won their trust. And in a world where even self-trust is difficult to find, this is not going to be easy.
Option 3: Change the rope.
This option assumes that Christians need to change the communication method and style for a postmodern audience, being sensitive to the ethos of our culture.
To change the rope means that we evaluate our presentation method and change where necessary. This might be considered the choice of many within the emerging church (although number 4 will also play into this as well). It is also the method of many “seeker†churches.
When changing the rope, there are no sacred cows. According to this option, as the culture changes, so must our methodology in presenting the Gospel and doing church. This might take many forms. It could be as simple as changing the worship style from traditional music to contemporary or it can be as radical as sculpting the Gospel out of clay instead of words. Whatever communicates best to our culture should be used as a medium for the Gospel. Whatever the culture shuns or distrusts as far as communication is concerned should not be used. If we live in a drama-driven culture that seeks to experience life through fictional movies, then the Christian community should be making movies that communicate truth. If we live in a culture that has acquired a disdain and distrust for traditional church gatherings, then lets change them. In other words, there is nothing sacred in the way we do things, only in what we do.
Those who adhere to this option would see a distinction between form and function. Function represents the basic principles (i.e. the water), the form is the way the function is made manifest (i.e. the rope). The form is always in need of change, even if the fundamentalists of each generation cry wolf-they always have and always will.
As well, changing the rope can be seen as following the pattern set by God. God did not write in a “God-type†literature, but condescended to the culture in which He was communicating. He used Psalms where Psalms were common, He used Near-Eastern suzerain-vassal treaties when in the Near-East, and used parables for relevance to those who would understand them. Therefore, according to this position, God changed the rope, so should we.
Like the others, I see much to commend with this option. We all have the tendency to see the rope as sacred as the water due to longevity of use. “I use this rope because mom used this rope, and her mom used this rope, and her mom used this rope. If it is good enough for them . . .†you know the rest. The rope is not sacred, yet we have the tendency to make it such. I agree very much with this view since it sees a great need to evaluate the culture and make change based upon the ethos of the generation. I do believe that God condescended His message to make it understandable and relevant. Even language itself is a condescension in many ways. To the Hebrews, He spoke Hebrew. To those in the first century, He spoke in Greek. Why? Because that is the only way they could understand. He changed the rope. So should we.
Option 4: Change the water.
This option assumes that the water we are calling “Gospel†today may not represent the true Gospel due to traditional folk theology and misinformation. Therefore, the water needs to be “purified.â€
I can hear the reaction. “Change the Gospel? This cannot be. This is the last thing that I would choose. The Gospel must remain pure and unadulterated.†I know that it is very easy to have an elbow-jerk reaction to this, proverbially slapping it in the knee, but, like the others, let us consider it in the way that those who opt for it would.
There are many in the church who would say that the “Gospel†that we call the “Gospel†is not really the Gospel at all. In other words, the water is not pure. According to this group, the culture is reacting strongly against church, Christians, and religiosity in general. They are not only sick of the self-righteousness that is so easy to find, but against the dogmatism of the various groups represented. This dogmatism has the “I’m right, your wrong; Your going to hell, I’m not†feel about it. “They like Jesus, but not the Church” as Dan Kimball wrote. What does that mean? Well according to those who hold to this option, it means that the church does not have Jesus, at least the real, essential Jesus. In other words, if Jesus is the subject of the Gospel, and the church does not have Jesus, then the water as it is now is nothing but a poisoned, bitter, and false representation of the Gospel. The church today, at least in its evangelical variety, is identified with an anti-homosexual, judgmental, political movement. Therefore, the church needs to re-evaluate the water. The church needs to put the water to the test and extract the additives.
There are two groups that represent this option:
Radical water changers: Those who would say that the historic Christian faith is wrong in many ways.
Moderate water changers: Those who say that the contemporary Christian faith is wrong in many ways.
How can we purify the Gospel? By removing unnecessary and bad doctrine that has misrepresented the truth and given the church a bad name. But the question becomes: What are these impurities?
The radical water changers would have no ties to tradition at all. They would entertain the thought that many beliefs that have defined the historic Christian faith are wrong. Included in these beliefs could be the doctrine of Hell (is it really eternal? Is it really real? Let’s not speak about it), the doctrine of God (is God really eternal? if so, how can He relate?), the exclusivity of Christ (is Christ really the only way?), the atonement (would God really enact “cosmic child abuse†to secure redemption?), the doctrine of sin (are we really condemned for the sin of another?), and the like. The water is purified to the point where all that is secure is the fact that God loves all people and will eventually save all somehow (universalism). These can be found in the liberal church and many of the more radical representatives in the emerging church.
The moderate water changers, on the other hand, would say that the church must always be evaluating the water to make sure that no impurity has crept in unaware. Sometimes these impurities come as a result of reaction against the culture or other false teachings. They are added to the water during the battle, but never taken out - even when the battle is over. This group would look to historic Christianity for the basic essential elements of the Gospel, often looking to the early creeds and confessions. Additives that they would consider unworthy of the water would be issues of practice that have become normalized to such a degree that you cannot distinguish them from the Gospel. It may be how we do church (house church vs. mega-church), how we present the Gospel (the â€sinners prayer,†walking the aisle, the Four Spiritual Laws, etc.), how we relate to the culture (”if the culture does it, Christians should not” mentality), and legalistic practices (Christians should not drink, gamble, dance, smoke, or go to the movies), political additives (Christians must vote Republican), and the like. According to this group, these practices have been traditionalized within the church to such a degree that they are now part of the water. As well, according to this group, non-essential doctrinal additives are present in the water. Some Christians have elevated non-essential beliefs to that of essentiality (views of the end-times, views on election, views on the inerrancy of Scripture, etc.). Therefore, the church needs to purify the water as it has become corrupt, getting the water back to the basic essentials.
This option is held by many evangelicals and has much representation in the moderate emerging church.
In evaluation of this option, I don’t believe that the radical water changers are on safe ground. How can one depart from two-thousand years of essential Christian belief and still call themselves Christian? God is not a cheerleader on the sidelines of church history. He is involved in the development of doctrine and establishing the foundations of the faith. These foundations cannot be overturned so easily. I don’t believe that we can justify a radical change in basic Christian doctrine. You may not like it or agree with the way God did things, but if the Church has held strong to these basic essentials, we must respect God’s work through the giants of the past. When they speak in unity across time, we need to be humble and listen. Radical water changers dilute the water according to the whims and opinion of a contemporary audience. This is very problematic.
The moderate water changer option, on the other hand, has much to commend. They don’t seek to dilute the water, but to remove the additives. We are always in need of re-evaluation and reform. I believe that the Reformers were moderate water changers with regards to the culture and church at the time of the Reformation. Interestingly, the institutionalized church of the day believed that they were radical water changers.
I believe that the church does need to inspect the water to make sure that there are no impurities present. I do believe that the Gospel can become identified by non-essential methodology and folk lore. Indeed, this makes the water not only hard to drink, but it can become completely destructive to the representation of Christ. Christ, in this sense, can be separated from the Gospel and the church. We need to make sure this does not happen.
In short, the water needs to be mere Christianity. Once it is, then it cannot be changed.
In sum, I believe that all the options have their place when rightly understood. How do we engage postmodernism? I believe that we meet people where they are and bring them the essential Christ. The options will be relative to the situation. Therefore, there is no one option that is always right or wrong.
We are all postmoderns to some degree and we need to learn to empathize with their concerns if we are going to gain an audience. If we don’t do this, none of these options will really help.
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- Engaging Postmodernism (4): Changing the Rope
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- Primer on Evangelizing Postmoderns
- Engaging Postmodernism (3): Changing the Horse
Truth Unites... and Divides on 04 Jan 2008 at 1:29 am #
He [God] changed the rope [methodology]. So should we.
The options will be relative to the situation. Therefore, there is no one option that is always right or wrong.
Well summarized CMP! Just as there is no one best methodology, nor one best tone for a watchdog polemic!
jtr hart on 04 Jan 2008 at 5:57 am #
This is a great summary.
I wonder if some combination of options 1,2,and 3 is possible though. Recognizing that we should change the rope and taking that to be the basis of methodology, we can build off of that and work on denying post-modernism and seek their conversion from it.
Not necessarily denying all aspects of post-modern thought and seeking to change that mindset, but certainly no one can know Christ and believe there is no absolute truth. So we can’t effectively change the rope while adhering to certain aspects of post-modern thought.
I’m afraid I don’t have much to offer in what this combination looks like other than saying it should probably be more living out the word of God for others to see rather than speaking the word of God for others to hear. Considering postmoderns don’t place a lot of value on words, I would think witnessing a truly different/changed life would have a bigger impact on them than hearing a lot of speaking.
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Truth Unites... and Divides on 04 Jan 2008 at 12:16 pm #
o The church today, at least in its evangelical variety, is identified with an anti-homosexual, judgmental, political movement. Therefore, the church needs to re-evaluate the water. The church needs to put the water to the test and extract the additives.
o Moderate water changers: Those who say that the contemporary Christian faith is wrong in many ways.
o The moderate water changer option, on the other hand, has much to commend. They don’t seek to dilute the water, but to remove the additives.
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Dear CMP, you are largely correct. Yet you are still missing another vital component. (I assume you understand what the term “Strawman” means.) Have you ever considered that misperceptions of the Church are oftentimes strawman caricatures that distort and misrepresent many Churches and Christians?
So there is a 3rd option. Removing additives imported by heterodoxy/heteropraxy AND, AND, AND removing the additives imported by the strawman caricatures and nearly willful and sinful misperceptions of those opposed to Christ.
That should be sensibly reasonable to you.
Micah on 04 Jan 2008 at 5:37 pm #
Option 5: Wait
What we call “Postmodernism” is a transitional period, defined as a rejection of Modernism (and frankly, there’s plenty there to reject). It won’t last long. Lots of really bright thinkers say it’s already over, and that the church is currently gearing up to hit 1995.
Doyle on 04 Jan 2008 at 7:54 pm #
I say forget about all of this politics and opinion (although I’m giving my opinion right now) and put in the real stuff. What ever happened to “love thy enemy” and “judge not”? Let’s use the New Testament, the COMPLETE New Testament, to guide our lives. The Old Testament is mostly for Jews, except Christians should follow the ten commandments and a few other things in there. But the New Testament has everything we need. Since we aren’t ancient Israelites we need something new to be promised with since the Jews messed their promise up(no offense to the Jews). Stop thinking about worldly needs and your opinion and start thinking about the real word of God. It’s a tough commitment, but it’s always up for grabs.
Saint and Sinner on 05 Jan 2008 at 3:12 pm #
I would agree with you to a degree that many in our culture don’t like the church or Christianity because of the superficial religiosity of some. However, there is also the fact that God is judging this nation by hardening the hearts of its people (John 12:37-40).
Robert on 05 Jan 2008 at 5:18 pm #
Michael,
Might I forward another option?
How about we tell the truth as clearly as we can, to those who are unsaved; no matter what their flavor?
I always get the feeling that we who evangelize, are always looking for that “magic bullet” for each type of person; the thing that will really “change their mind” about Jesus…
You know…”this is what you say to a Mormon” and “this is how you approach a postmodern”…etc.
If we think about it…it’s not our charge to “convert” anyone…it’s God’s. We are the message delivery system. We can try and be as effective as we want but until God changes a heart, it’s for nothing.
Just my two cents,
bob
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Aaron Ronetski on 05 Jan 2008 at 11:40 pm #
Michael,
There are aspects of our culture that need to be rejected upon conversion.
Of course we are a part of our culture. We are not to be weirdos and oddballs for Jesus. However, we shouldn’t embrace those aspects of our culture that are associated with licentious living (i.e. trying to “redeem” punk music, getting tattoos to reach bikers, etc.)
The Bible does have something to say about “the rope”. When a sinner is converted, he inherently rejects certain aspects of his culture.
Preach the gospel and God will take care of the details. Culture will be no barrier to the heart that is drawn to Jesus.
I am thankful God saved me out of the cultural context that I was lost in…
Robert on 06 Jan 2008 at 5:14 am #
Aaron,
If you don’t mind, I’m going to steal and use your quote: “Culture will be no barrier to the heart that is drawn to Jesus”
Good one…
bob
Aaron Ronetski on 06 Jan 2008 at 9:11 pm #
Bob,
Don’t mind at all…
Truth Unites... and Divides on 08 Jan 2008 at 5:48 pm #
I have permission to quote this from another Christian blogger, SolaMeanie:
The Emergent/Emerging idea is wrong from a foundational level. It starts out with a premise that the church is supposed to be a comfortable place for unbelievers, and that the church has to adapt itself to a postmodern culture rather than confronting the culture in a biblical fashion. That is bad ecclesiology. The best of them think they’re trying to be effective in communicating to a postmodern mind, while the worst of them have actually adopted a postmodern mind themselves. That is bad epistemology. Couple that with a very, very low view of Scripture — and in the worst cases — a heterodox soteriology, and the seeds for disaster are sown.
C Michael Patton on 08 Jan 2008 at 6:18 pm #
Truth, it sounds like that quote is about the “seeker” movement, not so much the emerging movement. I don’t think that the emerging movement as an ecclesiological change is seeker-sensitive. In fact, much of the emerging movement is based upon a disdain for the seeker movement.
Truth Unites... and Divides on 08 Jan 2008 at 6:33 pm #
CMP, I had the same thought too, particularly this part, “a premise that the church is supposed to be a comfortable place for unbelievers, and that the church has to adapt itself to a postmodern culture rather than confronting the culture in a biblical fashion.”
But perhaps that does describe some Emergent Churches, so I just let it go.
scott gray on 21 Jan 2008 at 9:53 am #
one of the understandings of postmodernism is the deep suspicion that communication is about power and manipulation. postmodern thinkers will see power and manipulation in evangelization (communicating the gospel), unless the postmodern thinker is included in the value judgment about the gospel in an egalitarian way. to paint the postmodern thinker as a horse, and presumably the evangelist as a person, is to open the dialog in a manner highly suspicious to the postmodern thinker. you’ve chosen a metaphor that values the evangelist more than the postmodern thinker. if this metaphor resonates with you, and you act from it, you have not chosen an irenic method of engagement.
peace–
scott
Truth Unites... and Divides on 21 Jan 2008 at 10:33 am #
D’oh! Nice post Scott. Although I like “horses” very much!
Q: Is the Bible irenic enough for our PoMo culture. Do PoMos and Emergents see God as too “powerful” and “manipulative” because of how they read the Bible?
Should we water down and dilute the Word of God to make it more palatable and attractive to the egalitarian PoMo horse who suspects everything is a power and manipulation game?
scott gray on 21 Jan 2008 at 11:21 am #
if you don’t, you’ll lose your equine audience.
the authoritative understanding you have of your faith documents is interesting to a postmodern horse, but after one small sip, will say, ‘neigh!’
Truth Unites... and Divides on 21 Jan 2008 at 11:34 am #
if you don’t, you’ll lose your equine audience.
That simply won’t do Scott. You know that. We must be Seeker-Sensitive, Postmodern, Liberal, Emergent Christians who must contextualize the Gospel and the Bible to the people in our culture.
That means we must bow down and pay homage to being IRENIC because that is the ONLY MEANS by which we can bring the Gospel to folks who don’t believe in Jesus.
So let us neuter and soften any and all hard edges of Scripture so that our Post-Modern friends don’t see any “power” and “manipulation” in either Christ or the Bible.
Scott, how should we rephrase the following passage to make it more palatable to a deeply suspicious egalitarian post-modern?
“The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom” (Prov. 1:7).
scott gray on 21 Jan 2008 at 12:00 pm #
a post modern thinker wouldn’t water it down, or neuter it, or soften it, a postmodern thinker would deconstruct it.
the proverb, ‘the fear of the lord is the beginning of wisdom’ is, in my book, an aphorism.
aphorisms are made of one fourth of a matrix of intersected binary ideas. the opposite of wisdom is ignorance. the opposite of fear might be love, or attraction. let’s chose love.
‘the fear of the lord is the beginning of wisdom.’
‘the fear of the lord is the beginning of ignorance.’
‘the love of the lord is the beginning of wisdom.’
‘the love of the lord is the beginning of ignorance.’
which is most ‘true?’ which resonates with you the most? which would resonate the most with a postmodern thinker?
if the original from proverbs is the least resonant pairing for a postmodern thinker, my advice is to let this verse go for now and try something else.
cmp has said, over and over again, that you convert by first meeting folks where they are. why would you use this proverbs verse, knowing it would be perceived by a post modern thinker as antagonistic? better to begin with scripture that is common ground.
in an irenic method, you now have to think like a postmodern equine, and imagine what values and ideas you and they hold in common. begin your dialog there, not with an antagonistic proverb.
unless you think that the postmodern horse admires gadflies. but the long tail on the back end of a postmodern horse is there to swat away gadflies.
peace–
scott
Truth Unites... and Divides on 21 Jan 2008 at 12:43 pm #
o why would you use this proverbs verse, knowing it would be perceived by a post modern thinker as antagonistic?
Maybe it’s because I’m a historic evangelical?
o which would resonate the most with a postmodern thinker?
How about: ‘the love of the lord is the beginning of ignorance.’?
Isn’t that what Liberal Emergents do? We love Jesus (according to our own construction), but we are uncertain about what we know and what can be known and how it could be known.
o in an irenic method, you now have to think like a postmodern equine, and imagine what values and ideas you and they hold in common. begin your dialog there, not with an antagonistic proverb.
(Palm slap on the forehead.) By jove Scott, you’re sooooo right! I’ve been so oblivious. Proverbs 1:7 is antagonistic! I never saw it that way through a PoMo’s eyes.
It’s utterly critical for Christians to be irenic. I’ve misread the Bible all these years. All those OT prophets, John the Baptist, Jesus, Paul, Peter, John, they were exemplar models of how to be irenic!
So continuing with the equine metaphor, Christians, if need be, should play the part of the horse’s rear as we irenically push the egalitarian post-modern horse to the Living Water!
Lesson: If the Gospel is not presented IRENICALLY, then it’s not the Gospel!
scott gray on 21 Jan 2008 at 12:48 pm #
now that you’re on board:
what values and ideas might you and a postmodern thinker have in common?
Truth Unites... and Divides on 21 Jan 2008 at 12:53 pm #
o but the long tail on the back end of a postmodern horse is there to swat away gadflies.
Is that right? Well, in that case we should follow your counsel Scott and deconstruct the Bible as the Liberals and Emergents so that the Word of God may not be seen as a gadfly by the egalitarian postmodern horse.
C Michael Patton on 21 Jan 2008 at 2:22 pm #
“Lesson: If the Gospel is not presented IRONICALLY, then it’s not the Gospel!”
Not sure if that was serious, but it ironically illustrates the attitude of Muslims more than Christians. Their Gospel CANNOT be presented irenically because it has no substance and CANNOT be presented with “gentleness and reverence.”
Christian’s must present the Gospel irenically, or it simply amounts to the indoctrination that is antithetical to true belief.
scott gray on 21 Jan 2008 at 3:12 pm #
tu…ad–
i offer no counsel. instead i offer you a gift–a good natured postmodern thinker to practice evangelization on, or to ask questions of that will sharpen your evangelization tools.
or perhaps a good natured postmodern thinker to convert, if you get it right.
i’ve shown you how a postmodern thinkers looks at things. that the presupposition that all communication is about power and manipulation is important. that the presupposition that truths are not something accepted at face value, but require deconstruction is important.
i’ve given you an example of deconstructing a verse of text from your faith documents, and how the results might lead to a postmodern thinker finding value in your faith documents.
an interested evangelist might take the opportunity to try deconstructing text, to see what it is like. might imagine one’s self suspicious and skeptical of power and manipulation in communication, in order to empathize with the person one is evangelizing to. might see that truth that is evident to you requires deconstructing in order to gain value for a postmodern thinker.
in an earlier comment, you said: “…as we irenically push the egalitarian post-modern horse to the Living Water!”
the story of the woman at the well in john’s gospel is about an irenic jesus. he meets her where she is, and offers her something more, in language and thinking she resonates with deeply.
tu…ad, if you are interested, take a deep breath, step back, and try again. i’m quite approachable.
so…what values and ideas might you and a postmodern thinker have in common?
peace–
scott
Truth Unites... and Divides on 21 Jan 2008 at 3:55 pm #
“Christian’s [sic] must present the Gospel irenically…”
Given this command, would the following assertion be considered irenic in presenting the message of Christ to a follower of Islam?
“Their [Islamic] Gospel CANNOT be presented irenically because it has no substance and CANNOT be presented with “gentleness and reverence.â€
C Michael Patton on 21 Jan 2008 at 4:41 pm #
Are you a muslim? If so, I do apologize.
Truth Unites... and Divides on 21 Jan 2008 at 4:52 pm #
(I am sorry that I continue to write about this so often lately, it has just been a particularly hard week.) (CMP)
May the peace of knowing Christ comfort you.