Richard Dawkins on Abraham and Isaac
I guess Richard Dawkins didn’t read my book. . . .
Well, not that it would have mattered: Dawkins seems determined never to give religion the benefit of the doubt. In his God Delusion, he considers Yahweh an “evil monster†whose command to Abraham to sacrifice Isaac is “disgraceful†and tantamount to “child abuse and bullying.†Have Jews and Christians missed something all these millennia? Dawkins’s own hostility toward religion greatly diminishes his charitability quotient.
Not only can we detect hostility in Dawkins, but hypocrisy as well. In his book River out of Eden, he denies that evil exists at all:
If the universe were just electrons and selfish genes, meaningless tragedies . . . are exactly what we should expect, along with equally meaningless good fortune. Such a universe would be neither evil nor good in intention . . . . The universe we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but blind pitiless indifference. So we have “no evil and no good†there and Yahweh as an “evil monster†here.
So which is it? If, presumably, Dawkins hasn’t drastically changed his metaphysical outlook, what exactly is his case against an allegedly evil deity?
We’ll let this pass and turn back to Abraham. In my book How Do You Know You’re Not Wrong? (Baker), I address the sacrifice of Isaac passage from Genesis 22. I’ll simply summarize some key points and make a few others in hopes of providing a far different and more accurate perspective than Dawkins’s.
First, God’s command to Abraham isn’t some contextless bolt out of the blue. Rather, it comes in the broader context of God’s dealings with Abraham. These interactions included God’s promise to bless the nations through Abraham (Gen. 12:1-3) and His permitting Abraham to let Hagar and the non-promised son Ishmael depart into the wilderness with the assurance that God would take care of them (Gen. 21). Without this divine promise, it would have been wrong for Abraham to send them away. In fact, the latter passage proves to be a “test run†for Abraham, who had hoped Ishmael would be the son of promise. God said this was not to be. Instead, the promise-child would come from both Abraham’s and Sarah’s bodies (Gen. 17:19).
Secondly, Abraham had already known God’s faithful character and had come to trust His promises; so here God is calling on Abraham to trust Him yet again, but in a dramatic—indeed, startling—manner. Even in the command to Abraham, God says something unusual in Gen. 22:2: “Please take your son.†According to the Old Testament scholar Gordon Wenham, we see a remarkable tenderness here, which cushions the harsh command. The command hints that “the Lord appreciates the costliness of what he is asking.†And to reinforce the implied message to trust in God’s faithfulness, He further refers to the long-awaited son of promise, Isaac: “your son, your only son, whom you love.†Abraham knew that without Isaac, God’s promise couldn’t be fulfilled. In addition, God’s sends Abraham to a mountain in the region of Moriah (Gen. 22:2, derived from “provide, see,†cf. 22:14). This harks back to God’s initial call to Abraham, who was to leave for a land “which I will show you†(Gen. 12:1). In the very word Moriah—“provisionâ€â€”we have a hint of salvation and deliverance. In God’s command, we have a triple reinforcement that God will somehow deliver on His promises.
Interestingly, Abraham doesn’t assume that God’s command is tantamount to human sacrifice so common in the ancient Near East—a practice the Scriptures roundly condemn (Lev. 18:21; 20:2; Jer. 19:5; Ezek. 20:30–31; 23:36–39). Abraham registers no moral shock since he suspects that God has something completely different in mind. We need to keep in mind that God’s command is unique and unrepeatable and that it takes place in the particular salvation-historical context of God’s promises and unique provision.
We could add that since God is the giver and sustainer of life, He is under no obligation to allow us a certain number of years on earth. The testing of Abraham serves as a reminder that God—in His good and sovereign purposes—may give and take away and even make demands we can’t fully understand. Though God will do what is right, He is not on equal footing with humans.
Thirdly, though Abraham doesn’t know how in the world God is going to fulfill His promise, his response reflects a confidence that Isaac will not ultimately perish. Abraham doesn’t separate God’s promise in Genesis 12 and 17 from God’s command in Genesis 22—and neither should we. Abraham knew that even if the child of promise died, God would somehow fulfill His promise by raising Isaac from the dead. This is why Abraham tells his servants as he departs with Isaac. “We will worship and we will return to you†(Gen. 22:5). Hebrews 11:17-19 reinforces this theme, stressing that Abraham was confident that God could even raise the dead.
Fourthly, God, in his sovereignty, has used the example of Abraham, who freely giving (rather than “sparing†[Gen. 22:12]) his son to God, as a picture of God’s freely providing His “beloved†and “one and only Son†for our salvation. As Paul writes in Romans 8:32 (with Abraham’s sacrifice in mind): “He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him over for us all, how will He not also with Him freely give us all things?â€
Those are a few reflections on Dawkins’s reaction to Genesis 22. Before signing off, however, perhaps I should mention that my book How Do You Know You’re Not Wrong? also tackles other issues pertaining to what Dawkins calls the “ubiquitous wierdness†of the Old Testament. So I look at levitical laws—including kosher laws—and some of the harsh civil laws for Israel. Contrary to Dawkins and other new atheists, these laws are not to be taken as ideal and universal for all cultures across the ages. Rather, they are a divine accommodation to human hard-heartedness (cp. Mt. 19:8), which included structures of slavery, polygamy, and male-biased patriarchy—despite God’s ideals spelled out at the beginning of Scripture. These include the fact that all humans being made in the divine image (Gen. 1:26-27) and the ideal of lifelong monogamous marriage between husband and wife (2:24). God’s creational design rules out slavery, male-domination, racism, and polygamy.
The Mosaic law is a remarkable humanizing attempt at morally elevating Israelite culture (e.g., slaves and women received rights unheard of in the ancient Near East). At the same time, the laws of Sinai regulated and restrained inferior ancient Near East social structures that Israel had adopted. Unfortunately, many of the new atheists’ arguments against “the God of the Old Testament†are misleading caricatures, which neglect important nuances and the role of progressive moral development. In the next few blogs postings, I’ll highlight more of these.
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shane magee on 02 Dec 2007 at 11:41 am #
there is a contrary reading of this text obviously (rarely, if ever preached in evangelical circles) - that abraham did wrong in acceding to yhwh’s demand that he kill his son.
were yhwh to appear to us and demand that one does such a thing would the truly righteous thing not be to refuse - even in the face of divine retribution. “killing an innocent child is wrong. i will not do it yhwh.” another perfect time for the accusation “shall not the judge of all the earth do right?” when abraham stands in the gap for lot in sodom he does a righteous and noble thing. should he not have done the same thing here?
is our duty not always to take the side of the weak and to stand with them (as with moses (exodus 32:32) and paul (romans 9:3)) - even if that meant standing against yhwh himself and resulted in our own damnation?
Rob Bowman on 02 Dec 2007 at 1:32 pm #
Shane,
God’s response to Abraham’s willingness to sacrifice his son (22:12, 16-18) shows that Abraham did not do wrong by attempting to carry out God’s request to sacrifice his son. At least, this is the teaching of the passage.
As Copan shows, there is evidence within the text of Genesis that Abraham had reason to believe that the requested act would not be the end of Isaac’s life.
In none of the three passages you cited (Gen. 18:25; Ex. 32:32; Rom. 9:3) does the speaker refuse to do something God asked of him. Abraham and Moses did intercede with God to ask him to show mercy to a sinful people. This is simply not the same sort of situation as in Genesis 22.
Rob Bowman on 02 Dec 2007 at 1:39 pm #
Paul,
Excellent treatment. We need more Old Testament apologetics!
Your argument can be augmented by pointing out that whoever brought together the narrative material in Genesis with the legal material in Leviticus (which you rightly cited) clearly did not see any contradiction between God’s request of Abraham and God’s prohibition of human sacrifice in Leviticus. This is true whether one supposes the “editor” was Moses himself or a later “redactor.” Some skeptics imagine that they have cleverly noticed a discrepancy that the ancient authors of the Bible missed. It is far more likely that the ancient authors knew what they were saying and that the modern skeptic is failing to grasp the message of the texts in their contexts.
C Michael Patton on 02 Dec 2007 at 2:00 pm #
Awesome post!
irreverend fox on 02 Dec 2007 at 3:01 pm #
great post!
shane,
should we feel qualified to discern right from wrong apart from YHWH? should we fee confident ever defying him? to what standard must YHWH submit and before which court should He be judged?
also…from what perspective are you asking your question? Christian? Jewish? Agnostic?
VanceH on 02 Dec 2007 at 4:03 pm #
Thanks for a very interesting post. I’m looking forward to the follow-ons. Recently I’ve been struck with how ridiculous it is to differentiate the God of the Old Testament from the God of the New. Clearly He isn’t the one that is changing over the course of a few thousand years–so it has to be for our benefit that He has changed his style over time
Paul Copan on 02 Dec 2007 at 6:24 pm #
Thanks to you all for your comments.
Rob, thanks for addressing Shane’s comments. And let me add a welcome you as another blogger at this website! We’re glad to have your excellent contributions.
You’re right that a lot more work needs to be done on Old Testament ethics, and I’m presently doing some writing in this area. Some of my future posts will tackle some of these issues.
Gene H on 02 Dec 2007 at 6:51 pm #
Paul,
Great post and very timely also. I’m teaching on this very passage from Genesis for my next Bible study class and there are many helpful insights here. I used your excellent book, “True for You, But Not for Me” as the basis for a 12-week apologetics study a few years ago. Dawkins can’t seem to make up his mind. To paraphrase, “I don’t really believe in moral concepts such as “good” and “evil”, but YHWH personifies evil all the same.” Amazing! Paul, keep on bringing it.
Tom Rees on 03 Dec 2007 at 6:01 am #
Hi Paul, regarding Dawkins and the existence of evil. The passage you quote is discussing whether the universe has a purpose - it does not. There is no ‘Yaweh as an evil monster” because Yaweh does not exist. The things we declare as ‘acts of god’ are just the purposeless machinations of physics. In particular, ‘evil’ does not exist in the totemic sense - an objective entity.
However, evil does exist in the sense that it is a label applied to certain reprehensible actions (and people) that are widely condemned. It doesn’t make sense to call a hurricane evil, but it may make sense to call the actions of a mass murder ‘evil’ (bearing in mind the caveat that simplistic dualism often causes more problems than it solves). You don’t have to be real to be evil - there are plenty of baddies in the fictional world. Yahweh is a fictional character who demonstrates a wide range of actions that I would be happy to label as evil.
Paul Copan on 03 Dec 2007 at 8:38 am #
Thanks for the note and the encouragement, Gene. I’m glad you’ve found the post helpful as well as my other book “True for You.”
In case you weren’t aware, there are more Old Testament issues that I touch on in “That’s Just Your Interpretation” (Baker)–such as slavery and warfare–and in a forthcoming book called “When God Goes to Starbucks” (Baker), in which I deal with the imprecatory psalms and divine egotism/jealousy. There I also devote three chapters to a comparison of Canaanite warfare and Islamic jihad, which I take to be remarkably different phenomena.
All the best to you!
Paul
shane magee on 03 Dec 2007 at 8:58 am #
i’m no real fan of dawkins - i see him as part of an evidentialist debate which is pretty much dead and gone - but surely this is a misrepresentation of his position. he is not saying that he does not find some things reprehensible or evil, but rather that, in his worldview, there are not inviolable, eternal, immutable categories of absolute evil or good. this is an argument i used to get into many times with atheists - just because atheists do not have a foundation for their ethic does not mean that they do not recognise certain things as good or evil and act accordingly.
indeed nietzsche pointed out that the almost the exact opposite is true. christianity (by tying itself to a modernist morality) has become bankrupt as this approach inevitably leads to moral relativism. as soon as we ask the question ‘why should i be good?’ the battle is lost! we should be love because we should love. love loves. to justify it or base it, in effect destroys it.
nietzsche’s critique, as you all know, was disregarded at the time. the announcement of the death of god by the fool came too early, as he says. the people were not ready for the announcement and so ridiculed the messenger. now, however, the landscape is very different. foundationalism is completely dead and useless. everyone (even very conservative scholars) recognises this. the only question now is: how do we proceed in this post-foundationalist world? how do we perform our apologetic with nowhere to ground it? how do we justify our ethic with no base at the bottom?
cornelius van til, alvin plantinga, william lane craig and their ilk have chosen one clever and interesting path. however, in my book, people like jean luc marion, pete rollins and john caputo (and zizek, badlieu et al) are steering a more exciting path to lead us through this morass.
i’m waffling now so i’ll stop i’ve written much about this over time. http://fakerepublic.typepad.com/fake/2007/03/how_to_be_good.html
http://fakerepublic.typepad.com/fake/2007/03/a_frame_for_the.html
http://fakerepublic.typepad.com/fake/2007/04/transfiguring_t.html
irreverend fox, it seems to me that we are always caught in the hermenuetical circle. we are always and continually wrestling with the text and always and continually interpret it through our own moral lenses. so even because we now know that slavery is wrong we interpret the (many) passages in scripture which condone the practice as being for a specific time a
Paul Copan on 03 Dec 2007 at 12:10 pm #
Thanks, Tom and Shane, for your good discussion.
Tom, I appreciate the distinction that you are trying to make in defense of Dawkins. Theoretically speaking, I see the sense of it. However, Dawkins himself in “The Devil’s Chaplain” utterly denies that science can tell us whether an act is wrong or not (e.g., abortion, cloning, or stem-cell research). He tells us: “Science has no methods for deciding what is ethical” (p. 34). Another quotation is taken from the same page: “To repeat, science cannot tell you whether abortion is murder, but it can warn you that you may be being inconsistent if you think abortion is murder but killing chimpanzees is not. You cannot have it both ways.”
So let’s paraphrase Dawkins for our purposes, whether God is fictitious or real: “To repeat, science cannot tell you whether Yahweh’s command for Abraham to sacrifice Isaac is child abuse, but it can warn you that such a command may be inconsistent if you think that sacrificing Isaac is child abuse but not sacrificing infants in the ancient Near East world. You cannot have it both ways.” Enough said on that (I think!).
Shane, I would agree with you that atheists and theists can agree on a lot of things morally–that torturing babies for fun or wife-beating or rape is wrong. I would say that we can know these sorts of things because we have the same basic moral constitution (assuming we’re functioning properly), and we don’t need the Bible to tell us right from wrong. (Paul says as much in Romans 2:14-15, and Amos 1-2 makes the same assumption regarding Gentile nations that engaged in atrocities but should have known better–and they had no Bible.)
The real problem is not at the level of *knowing* right and wrong. Rather, the question is that of *being*: how did we come to *be* moral beings? That is, how did rights, values, dignity, worth, moral freedom, responsibility, and duties emerge if we have come from worthless, valueless, deterministic materialistic processes? The context of a good, personal God helps us to make far better sense of this phenomenon. So if you have to choose between *value from value* or *value from valuelessness*, it seems that the former (e.g., theism) is far more sensible and natural than the latter (e.g., naturalism).
If matter is all there is, it’s hard to see how “value” could be a property of matter without some serious question-begging going on. We certainly don’t see physics textbooks including value (or, for that matter, consciousness or reason) in their definition or description of matter. It must somehow come from outside the system of valueless material processes.
For any readers who are interested, you can see my most recent piece on this subject in my coedited book with Blackwell Publishers, “Philosophy of Religion: Classic and Contemporary Issues.” I hope it will furnish a fuller explanation for you.
Thanks again to you both for a stimulating discussion.
Paul
Nick on 03 Dec 2007 at 12:16 pm #
It’s also worth noting that this is one time that Abraham didn’t argue with God. There’s more going on to the dialogue probably that we don’t see.
Overall though, Richard Dawkins is contradictory entirely. Scientists should not speak like ethicists or philosophers unless they have some qualification, but lo and behold, our society has made scientists the new priesthood.
Great article Paul. I have all three of your books that I know of along these lines and love them. Btw, I’m not sure if you remember, but I did get to meet you about 5 years ago in April 2002 when I visited RZIM.
Paul Copan on 03 Dec 2007 at 12:20 pm #
Thanks very much, Nick. I vaguely recall meeting you, although you’ll have to forgive me for being somewhat foggy. Drop by if you’re visiting in southern Florida!
Keep up the good work!
Best wishes,
Paul
Stephen (aka Q) on 03 Dec 2007 at 2:27 pm #
What you provide is a good reading of the text as a piece of literature. From a literary perspective, everything you say is apt. For example, I’m sure the meaning of “Moriah” was not lost on the author of Genesis 22.
However, there is a huge leap between Genesis 22 as a piece of literature and the Akedah (binding) of Isaac as a historical act. If the text is historical, I am with Dawkins: it was a wicked command, and Abraham was wrong to obey it.
Abraham doesn’t assume that God’s command is tantamount to human sacrifice so common in the ancient Near East—a practice the Scriptures roundly condemn (Lev. 18:21; 20:2; Jer. 19:5; Ezek. 20:30–31; 23:36–39).
Abraham wasn’t familiar with any of the texts you site: they hadn’t been written yet. Indeed, the best defence of the Akedah is that, through it, Israel learned that God does not require child sacrifice. Although Abraham was willing to do even that for YHWH, God prevented him from following through: and Israel learned that such a thing is never God’s will.
But Abraham didn’t know in advance that God wouldn’t require a child sacrifice. Nor is there any indication in Genesis 22 that Abraham expected God to raise Isaac from the dead. That interpretation was read into the text by a later biblical author, in light of the Gospel of Christ.
The key stumbling block is this: Isaac was a real, flesh-and-blood youth, and his own father bound him and raised a knife to kill him. The text is utterly indifferent to Isaac’s experience — although Leonard Sweet argues that Abraham and Isaac were permanently estranged afterward. (Trace their relationship through until Abraham’s death.)
In sum, I think we can draw legitimate moral lessons from Genesis 22, but only insofar as we disavow it as a historical event. Then the text is reduced to a literary device, subject to all the little interpretive justifications you supply above, with the moral message that child sacrifice is not a part of our religion.
That said — even as a literary device, the tale is problematic: does God really require absolute obedience of us?
If God commands us to commit evil (strap on a bomb and blow up some infidels, for example), are we obliged to obey? Or, if you see someone about to kill a child, and he tells you he is obeying a divine command, should you respond, “Well that’s all right, then”? Or should you intervene and summon the authorities?
If you can’t see how the act could be justified by a fellow believer, sitting next to you at church on a Sunday morning, then you should consider: was it really right when Abraham set out to do it?
shane magee on 03 Dec 2007 at 5:07 pm #
thanks for that stephen. you basically said what i was trying to but much more clearly, concisely and intelligently!
my constant worry is that we’ve so tamed the text that scripture no longer has the ability to shock, appaul, threaten, harrass, astonish and amaze us. there are no awkward questions any more (except when we try to tell these stories to those ‘outside’ like dawkins. all has been harmonised, homogenised, sanitised and neatly packaged into three point sermons for the delectation of those ‘inside.’
it’s always simultaneously encouraging and depressing to find that others have expressed one’s own brand of heresy before. encouraging to know i’m not alone in my questionning; depressing to know i haven’t an original thought in my head!! :o)
i’ll have to have a look at leonard sweet on this.
Tom Rees on 04 Dec 2007 at 12:00 pm #
Hi Paul, science absolutely cannot tell you whether any act is right or wrong, moral or immoral. It can provide you with evidence to help you make your judgement, but the judgement has to take into account the value you place on different outcomes.
In practice it’s no different from all the other decisions we have to make. Science can tell you that global warming will probably have effect X, but it can’t tell you whether it’s worth doing Y to prevent X. What Dawkins is saying is that there are no absolute, written-in-stone answers to these sorts of questions - although some of them (”Is child abuse wrong?”) are easier than others (”Should I eat that cream cake?”). Moral actions that are near-universally condemned can, for the sake of convenience, be labelled evil.
An interesting article in the Catholic Sentinel: http://www.sentinel.org/node/8547 “Let’s not confuse ethics with religion” You might also be interested in this TIME magazine article: What makes us moral http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/article/0,28804,1685055_1685076_1686619-4,00.html
Paul Copan on 05 Dec 2007 at 8:52 am #
Thanks, Stephen, Shane, and Tom, for your posts–all very stimulating and engaging. I appreciate it.
Stephen/Shane, I would certainly agree that we are not dealing with a tamable God here. I’m reminded of C.S. Lewis’s Aslan who is simultaneously good and frightening. God makes all kinds of demands–harsh, strange, discouraging, and even revolting–of prophets like Jeremiah (taking on a career of preaching to stubborn audiences), Hosea (taking a prostitute wife as picture of Israel’s unfaithfulness to Yahweh), or Isaiah (walking naked and barefoot as a prophetic enactment of Assyrian exile). Such commands are not without divine purpose or absent of goodness, however.
What I am noting in the Abraham story is that God’s goodness and faithfulness can still be seen–though Abraham strains to see it–despite the shocking command to sacrifice the child of promise. Hebrews 11 comments on Abraham’s belief that God could raise the dead precisely because Abraham hinted at this first to his servants: “we will worship and come again to you” (Gen. 22:-5).
While Dawkins–like the rest of us–is rightly shocked by God’s command, I think that, both historically and literarily, we cannot deny the context of God’s faithfulness to Abraham: Abr(ah)am’s call, the birth of the promise-child, Yahweh’s promise to care for Ishmael, and so forth. Furthermore, we must be careful of making God into a mere human. Surely, if a human were making such a demand, we would rightly question it. But if God is God, then certainly he has certain prerogatives (e.g., God isn’t obligated to give humans seventy or eighty years of life). And if God has faithfully fulfilled his promises, then even horrific acts like Jesus’ being crucified–an act that includes Jesus’ laying down his life of his own accord–may display the faithfulness and promise of God.
Absolute obedience to/worship of the Creator is required only if he is morally good. If some powerful evil creator made us, we would not be obligated to worship and absolutely obey. I could say more on this, but I’ve written elsewhere on the Euthyphro dilemma (perhaps ad nauseum). I could comment further (e.g., about child sacrifice, etc.), but I think I’ve said enough.
For Tom I would say, I don’t see how Dawkins or any other naturalist could arrive at what “ought” to be done from mere scientific descriptions. Moral explanations of actions are beside the point. Naturalists Thornhill and Palmer argue in *A Natural History of Rape* that rape can be naturally explained. When a male can’t find a mate, he forces himself upon a female because of the drive to reproduce his species. But the question is: If it’s natural (what “is”), where does the notion of “ought” come from? Nature simply is–whether we’re talking about the universe or human behavior (”selfish genes”). As Dawkins says, there is no real evil at all. To quote him again: “If the universe were just electrons and selfish genes, meaningless tragedies . . . are exactly what we should expect, along with equally meaningless good fortune.” This fits what Dawkins says elsewhere in his book *River Out of Eden*–we are just “dancing to our DNA.” So if we’re doing that, then why should we talk about human rights or dignity or value or moral responsibility since we’re at bottom just doing what our genes dictate to us?
Thanks for the good discussion. I appreciate the interaction.
All best wishes,
Paul