Comments on: Why Are Christians So Divided? Brief Reflections on Denominations http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/08/why-are-christians-so-divided-brief-reflections-on-denominations/ Making Theology Accessible Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:41:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Paul Copan http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/08/why-are-christians-so-divided-brief-reflections-on-denominations/comment-page-1/#comment-2215 Paul Copan Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:26:08 +0000 http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/devblog/2007/08/01/why-are-christians-so-divided-brief-reflections-on-denominations/#comment-2215 Thanks, Lionel, for a word from your own experience that helps reinforce some of the points I've made. May the Lord deliver us all from a spirit of arrogance! Best wishes, Paul Thanks, Lionel, for a word from your own experience that helps reinforce some of the points I’ve made. May the Lord deliver us all from a spirit of arrogance!

Best wishes,

Paul

]]> By: lionelwoods7 http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/08/why-are-christians-so-divided-brief-reflections-on-denominations/comment-page-1/#comment-2216 lionelwoods7 Mon, 06 Aug 2007 19:52:44 +0000 http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/devblog/2007/08/01/why-are-christians-so-divided-brief-reflections-on-denominations/#comment-2216 I am a black male who ran to religion after a rough inner city lifee. I was "saved" in an Apostolic church and later through many struggles with legalism and the Charismatic movement I was introduced to McArthur, Piper and Tom Nelson and now I bleong to a plant church of Deton Bible. What I have seen over the past few years are those who are more Bible oriented (I am talking about black folk here) have a lot of jokes such as tongue mocking, expressive worship jokes, and other Charismatic jokes that end up being really degrading to our Charismatic brothers and sisters. The other is a sense of arrogance (I too was guilty once I was introduced to reformed doctrine and the Doctrines of Grace). There should be a Christian Warning label on some material because of the arrogance that can come with knowledge. Just my thoughts. I have been intentianally bstarted to build relationships with those I don't agree with, to get a better understanding on what makes them click and hopefully to introduce them to some of the great doctrines of the Faith. God bless. I am a black male who ran to religion after a rough inner city lifee. I was “saved” in an Apostolic church and later through many struggles with legalism and the Charismatic movement I was introduced to McArthur, Piper and Tom Nelson and now I bleong to a plant church of Deton Bible. What I have seen over the past few years are those who are more Bible oriented (I am talking about black folk here) have a lot of jokes such as tongue mocking, expressive worship jokes, and other Charismatic jokes that end up being really degrading to our Charismatic brothers and sisters. The other is a sense of arrogance (I too was guilty once I was introduced to reformed doctrine and the Doctrines of Grace). There should be a Christian Warning label on some material because of the arrogance that can come with knowledge. Just my thoughts. I have been intentianally bstarted to build relationships with those I don’t agree with, to get a better understanding on what makes them click and hopefully to introduce them to some of the great doctrines of the Faith. God bless.

]]> By: Felicity http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/08/why-are-christians-so-divided-brief-reflections-on-denominations/comment-page-1/#comment-2222 Felicity Thu, 02 Aug 2007 22:17:33 +0000 http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/devblog/2007/08/01/why-are-christians-so-divided-brief-reflections-on-denominations/#comment-2222 "Yes, Felicity, I’m aware of the glitch (I pointed it out to Michael!). " He was probably just trying to take credit for a great post! --but you caught him! ;) “Yes, Felicity, I’m aware of the glitch (I pointed it out to Michael!). ”

He was probably just trying to take credit for a great post! –but you caught him! ;)

]]> By: Paul Copan http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/08/why-are-christians-so-divided-brief-reflections-on-denominations/comment-page-1/#comment-2221 Paul Copan Thu, 02 Aug 2007 16:08:19 +0000 http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/devblog/2007/08/01/why-are-christians-so-divided-brief-reflections-on-denominations/#comment-2221 Thanks for the responses! Yes, Felicity, I'm aware of the glitch (I pointed it out to Michael!). I'll let Michael address the "necessary evil" question!! All best, Paul Thanks for the responses!

Yes, Felicity, I’m aware of the glitch (I pointed it out to Michael!).

I’ll let Michael address the “necessary evil” question!!

All best,

Paul

]]> By: Felicity http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/08/why-are-christians-so-divided-brief-reflections-on-denominations/comment-page-1/#comment-2220 Felicity Thu, 02 Aug 2007 02:00:30 +0000 http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/devblog/2007/08/01/why-are-christians-so-divided-brief-reflections-on-denominations/#comment-2220 Sorry Paul--I swear it said Michael wrote it....:) Anyway... Michael--what is "necessary evil"? Disunity? I don't understand your point. Felicity Sorry Paul–I swear it said Michael wrote it….:) Anyway…

Michael–what is “necessary evil”? Disunity? I don’t understand your point.

Felicity

]]> By: C Michael Patton http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/08/why-are-christians-so-divided-brief-reflections-on-denominations/comment-page-1/#comment-2219 C Michael Patton Wed, 01 Aug 2007 22:25:34 +0000 http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/devblog/2007/08/01/why-are-christians-so-divided-brief-reflections-on-denominations/#comment-2219 Sorry Felicity, this was Paul Copan's post. It was a mistake that my name was initially attached to it. Paul, good points. I think that we often look at all the bad that comes from denominationalism, but you have made a good point that it could be a necessary evil in a fallen world (like <a href="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/devblog/2007/06/30/inner-pain-curse-or-blessing/" rel="nofollow">your blog on depression</a>). I find that in those denominations where there may be disagreements, yet there is a gracious recognition and genuine humility that there is a sense of iron sharpening iron. Sorry Felicity, this was Paul Copan’s post. It was a mistake that my name was initially attached to it.

Paul, good points. I think that we often look at all the bad that comes from denominationalism, but you have made a good point that it could be a necessary evil in a fallen world (like your blog on depression).

I find that in those denominations where there may be disagreements, yet there is a gracious recognition and genuine humility that there is a sense of iron sharpening iron.

]]> By: more fire http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/08/why-are-christians-so-divided-brief-reflections-on-denominations/comment-page-1/#comment-2218 more fire Wed, 01 Aug 2007 17:54:04 +0000 http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/devblog/2007/08/01/why-are-christians-so-divided-brief-reflections-on-denominations/#comment-2218 [...] read the full article check out the post at the theology blog, Parchment and Pen. No Comments so far Leave a comment RSS feed for comments on this post. TrackBack URI [...] [...] read the full article check out the post at the theology blog, Parchment and Pen. No Comments so far Leave a comment RSS feed for comments on this post. TrackBack URI [...]

]]> By: Felicity http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/08/why-are-christians-so-divided-brief-reflections-on-denominations/comment-page-1/#comment-2217 Felicity Wed, 01 Aug 2007 16:51:09 +0000 http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/devblog/2007/08/01/why-are-christians-so-divided-brief-reflections-on-denominations/#comment-2217 Good points! ***From MCP: “I’m a Christian,” she replied. He said, “Me, too! Small world! Protestant or Catholic?” “Protestant.”......... .........She said, “Northern Conservative Fundamentalist Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912.” He then shouted, “DIE, HERETIC!”, and pushed her over the rail. (1) RESPOSE: I think your story demonstrates that the further you get from Jesus, the more division there is. The Christian Church was one holy and apostolic Church for 1500 years. ***From MCP: This incident illustrates how having certain denominational label doesn’t guarantee a spirit of unity. A Christian can affirm the faith of fellow-Christians from other denominations with charity and grace. This is ABSOLUTELY true! 1Cor13:13~ But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the greatest of these is love. Thanks, Felicity Good points!

***From MCP:
“I’m a Christian,” she replied.
He said, “Me, too! Small world! Protestant or Catholic?”
“Protestant.”………

………She said, “Northern Conservative Fundamentalist Baptist Great Lakes Region Council of 1912.”
He then shouted, “DIE, HERETIC!”, and pushed her over the rail. (1)

RESPOSE:
I think your story demonstrates that the further you get from Jesus, the more division there is. The Christian Church was one holy and apostolic Church for 1500 years.

***From MCP:
This incident illustrates how having certain denominational label doesn’t guarantee a spirit of unity. A Christian can affirm the faith of fellow-Christians from other denominations with charity and grace.
This is ABSOLUTELY true! 1Cor13:13~ But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the greatest of these is love.

Thanks,
Felicity

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