Comments on: Friday Night Odds and Ends, July 13

By: C Michael Patton

C Michael Patton — Wed, 25 Jul 2007 00:31:19 +0000

Come on…you can’t compare Justice League to Looney Tunes. They are just way out of their league
I am an sublapsarian.

By: murmex

murmex — Tue, 24 Jul 2007 05:07:51 +0000

Michael,
Thank you for the defining moment you gave us of yourself. Some years ago I was speaking with Dr. Ryrie over some verses that troubled me and he warned me that I was going to become a Covenant Theologian. Even though I couldn’t spell it at the time, I are one nowm I guess, maybe. I just wish I were a theologian.
I was wondering, when you say you are a five point Calvinist, are you supra or infralapsarian? I have seen good ideas on both sides of that question.
Step aside JL and JQ, Bugs Bunny rules.

David

By: Dave Armstrong

Dave Armstrong — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 03:08:05 +0000

As liberals. We call those with that mindset “cafeteria Catholics.” They pick and choose what they like and don’t like. Lots of folks don’t like, e.g., the prohibition of contraception. This is private judgment, which is the Protestant principle.

I always say to people like this: “there are plenty of Protestant groups that will give you what you’re looking for. What prevents you from going there rather than staying and playing games with Catholic dogma as if it were an optional thing for a Catholic?”

By: Dan Wallace

Dan Wallace — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 01:03:32 +0000

Dave, thanks for the input. I fully acknowledge that the Catholic Catechism says exactly what you are saying. However, I know some Catholics who would agree with the essentials of the Catechism but do not agree with it fully. How would you regard them? Are they reprobate Catholics?

By: Dave Armstrong

Dave Armstrong — Sun, 22 Jul 2007 23:38:59 +0000

Dan Wallace wrote in the “51% Protestant” thread:

“Further, it is not necessary for a Catholic to agree with everything about Catholicism, just as it is not necessary for an evangelical to agree with everything that evangelicalism stands for. Ever since Vatican II, even priests have been free to disagree with a lot of church dogma.”

This is untrue. No Catholic is at liberty to disagree with anything that is truly established as a Catholic dogma (therefore, almost by definition, binding for a Catholic). In fact, both St. Thomas Aquinas and Venerable John Henry Cardinal Newman (and I’m sure they are not the only ones) taught that if one doubts one received dogma of the faith, he has lost the supernatural virtue of faith altogether.

Very different from evangelicalism, but that is what we believe, and I thought it was important to note this here, to make it clear.

By: stevemoore

stevemoore — Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:12:03 +0000

Michael,

First - glad to hear your daughter is doing better. I hope she continues to recover both physically and emotionally.

Second - I’ve listened to the audio where you discuss the progressive covenantilism. I’d really like to try to understand this better and was wondering if there was any good articles, books, etc to read up on this subject and how it is different from PD.

Third - Justice League is pretty cool. I still have a soft spot in my heart for Jonny Quest though.

Thanks,

-steve