Comments on: First Things Blogcast #4: Catholics vs. Evangelicals on Justification http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/07/first-things-blogcast-4-catholics-vs-evangelicals-on-justification/ Just another WordPress weblog Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:24:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: C Michael Patton http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/07/first-things-blogcast-4-catholics-vs-evangelicals-on-justification/#comment-1843 C Michael Patton Thu, 26 Jul 2007 05:52:20 +0000 http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/devblog/2007/07/24/first-things-blogcast-4-catholics-vs-evangelicals-on-justification/#comment-1843 Dang...I knew you were going to say that. OK, will do. Dang…I knew you were going to say that. OK, will do.

]]> By: kurtvader http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/07/first-things-blogcast-4-catholics-vs-evangelicals-on-justification/#comment-1844 kurtvader Thu, 26 Jul 2007 05:16:49 +0000 http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/devblog/2007/07/24/first-things-blogcast-4-catholics-vs-evangelicals-on-justification/#comment-1844 Michael, Evangelical Calvinist? Solves problems but creates new ones ;-) Why not be a true original Evangelical - be Lutheran ;-) Kurt Michael,

Evangelical Calvinist? Solves problems but creates new ones ;-)
Why not be a true original Evangelical - be Lutheran ;-)
Kurt

]]> By: C Michael Patton http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/07/first-things-blogcast-4-catholics-vs-evangelicals-on-justification/#comment-1847 C Michael Patton Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:58:33 +0000 http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/devblog/2007/07/24/first-things-blogcast-4-catholics-vs-evangelicals-on-justification/#comment-1847 By the way...you used to be one :( By the way…you used to be one :(

]]> By: C Michael Patton http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/07/first-things-blogcast-4-catholics-vs-evangelicals-on-justification/#comment-1846 C Michael Patton Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:58:17 +0000 http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/devblog/2007/07/24/first-things-blogcast-4-catholics-vs-evangelicals-on-justification/#comment-1846 That is why you must be an Evangelical Calvinist :) Solves all issues and brings harmony to all of existence. You know that Chris. That is why you must be an Evangelical Calvinist :) Solves all issues and brings harmony to all of existence. You know that Chris.

]]> By: CMWoodall http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/07/first-things-blogcast-4-catholics-vs-evangelicals-on-justification/#comment-1845 CMWoodall Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:31:07 +0000 http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/devblog/2007/07/24/first-things-blogcast-4-catholics-vs-evangelicals-on-justification/#comment-1845 No Fair! You only ended up saying that we agree on essentials and differ on particulars. But that only glosses the issue. Salvation come from Christ, yes, but what is the agency or avenue through which we get it? So how is "placing my personal faith in Christ" not a work in itself? I call this the evangelical sacrament of personal faith (faith alone, alone, alone). This is how you gain grace, personal faith alone. How is this not a work of the individual, how is this not cooperation with the Holy Spirit? No Fair!
You only ended up saying that we agree on essentials and differ on particulars.
But that only glosses the issue.
Salvation come from Christ, yes, but what is the agency or avenue through which we get it?
So how is “placing my personal faith in Christ” not a work in itself?
I call this the evangelical sacrament of personal faith (faith alone, alone, alone). This is how you gain grace, personal faith alone. How is this not a work of the individual, how is this not cooperation with the Holy Spirit?

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