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		<title>By: Paul Copan</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/06/inner-pain-curse-or-blessing/#comment-1053</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Copan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another posting affirms, "Any kind of pain is a bad thing. There are some people who think that if they cant calm a pain, their world is finishing. The should know that there are many ways to control a pain, specially with medicines."

I would disagree. First, not all pain is a bad thing (think of the "pains"--sometimes physical ones--we go through for our kids, and we're glad we made the sacrifice). We should be careful about adopting the hedonist view that we should maximize pleasure and minimize pain (or at least dull all pain).  Second, our deepest pains will be psychological or emotional, not physical.  Some would much rather go through physical pain than the pain of alienation or sorrow or loss of a loved one. We shouldn't attempt to "fix" such pain with medicine! Third, as Christians, we not only "take up our cross daily"--a very painful thing--we also enter into the pains and heartaches of others. We not only rejoice with those who rejoice, but weeping with those who weep. Christians will often hurt precisely because they are united with Christ and because they are  concerned about others.  Jesus himself was pained--his stomach tied in knots--when he saw the crowds distressed and downcast like sheep without a shepherd.

Thanks for the comments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another posting affirms, &#8220;Any kind of pain is a bad thing. There are some people who think that if they cant calm a pain, their world is finishing. The should know that there are many ways to control a pain, specially with medicines.&#8221;</p>
<p>I would disagree. First, not all pain is a bad thing (think of the &#8220;pains&#8221;&#8211;sometimes physical ones&#8211;we go through for our kids, and we&#8217;re glad we made the sacrifice). We should be careful about adopting the hedonist view that we should maximize pleasure and minimize pain (or at least dull all pain).  Second, our deepest pains will be psychological or emotional, not physical.  Some would much rather go through physical pain than the pain of alienation or sorrow or loss of a loved one. We shouldn&#8217;t attempt to &#8220;fix&#8221; such pain with medicine! Third, as Christians, we not only &#8220;take up our cross daily&#8221;&#8211;a very painful thing&#8211;we also enter into the pains and heartaches of others. We not only rejoice with those who rejoice, but weeping with those who weep. Christians will often hurt precisely because they are united with Christ and because they are  concerned about others.  Jesus himself was pained&#8211;his stomach tied in knots&#8211;when he saw the crowds distressed and downcast like sheep without a shepherd.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Copan</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/06/inner-pain-curse-or-blessing/#comment-1054</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Copan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, Mike.

When you wrote this e-mail, I was on vacation for several weeks, and for some reason I never saw this posting until I happened to just stumble across it today. Iâ€™m so sorry for the oversightâ€”especially as you told so much about your struggles and difficulties.
	I think youâ€™re right to emphasize that true Christian fellowship is rooted in Godâ€™s sufficient grace in Christ, to which we can add nothing.  By the Spiritâ€™s working, our full trust in Christâ€™s cross-work enables us to come together in Jesusâ€™ name. As the hymnwriter put it: â€œNothing in my hands I bring. Simply to Thy cross I cling.â€  However, we can have fellowship with people who struggle with placing their trust in Christ day-by-day, which is true of all of us!  I (and other Christian theologians) would say that fellowship is made possible by Godâ€™s Spirit in light of Christâ€™s death and resurrection. Fellowship is not based upon our faith; rather, this dependent faith is a response to Godâ€™s provision, and by faith we enter into the grace of Christian fellowship.  We are most fully appropriating this grace when we are most fully trusting in Christâ€™s work and empowerment, but we must also remember that we stumble and fail; we can easily construct idols of self-sufficiency in our hearts.  So our fellowship is comprised of struggling, imperfect Christians who often say, â€œI believe. Help my unbelief!â€
	As for the question of medications, sometimes that is necessary for handling certain bodily imbalances.  There certainly are negative health conditions that are the result of spiritual and emotional issues and thus must be addressed appropriatelyâ€”not simply by taking medication.
	As for the question of feeling inadequate, join the club!  Indeed, thatâ€™s precisely the pointâ€”that weâ€™re inadequate and in need of God.  Consider Jonathan Edwards (1703-1758), of whom the preacher George Whitefield said:  â€œI have not met his like in all New England.â€  The saintly Edwards confessed:
"Often . . . I have had the very affecting views of my own sinfulness and vileness, very frequently to such a degree as to hold me in a kind of loud weeping, sometimes for a considerable time together, so that I have been often obliged to shut myself up....When others that have come to talk with me about their soul's concerns have expressed the sense they have had of their wickedness, by saying that it seemed to them they were as bad as the devil himself; I thought their expressions seemed exceeding faint and feeble to represent my wickedness . . . . My wickedness, as I am in myself, has long appeared to me perfectly ineffable [i.e., inexpressible] and swallowing up all thought and imagination--like an infinite deluge, or mountains over my head. I know not how to express better what my sins appear to me to be, than by heaping infinite on infinite and multiplying infinite by infinite . . . .  When I look into my heart and take a view of my own wickedness, it looks like an abyss infinitely deeper than hell" (Personal Narrative, Pt. XV).
So take heart! Youâ€™re not alone!  There are lots more of us right next to you!
	I think we should differentiate between being *accepted* before God (which is based on Christâ€™s performance, not ours) and being *pleasing* to Him.  We can please God and walk in His light so long as we acknowledge our sin, our inadequacy, and the need for Godâ€™s forgiveness.
	May God give you grace and wisdomâ€”and the human support you needâ€”as you struggle through these difficult waters.

Blessings to you!

Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Mike.</p>
<p>When you wrote this e-mail, I was on vacation for several weeks, and for some reason I never saw this posting until I happened to just stumble across it today. Iâ€™m so sorry for the oversightâ€”especially as you told so much about your struggles and difficulties.<br />
	I think youâ€™re right to emphasize that true Christian fellowship is rooted in Godâ€™s sufficient grace in Christ, to which we can add nothing.  By the Spiritâ€™s working, our full trust in Christâ€™s cross-work enables us to come together in Jesusâ€™ name. As the hymnwriter put it: â€œNothing in my hands I bring. Simply to Thy cross I cling.â€  However, we can have fellowship with people who struggle with placing their trust in Christ day-by-day, which is true of all of us!  I (and other Christian theologians) would say that fellowship is made possible by Godâ€™s Spirit in light of Christâ€™s death and resurrection. Fellowship is not based upon our faith; rather, this dependent faith is a response to Godâ€™s provision, and by faith we enter into the grace of Christian fellowship.  We are most fully appropriating this grace when we are most fully trusting in Christâ€™s work and empowerment, but we must also remember that we stumble and fail; we can easily construct idols of self-sufficiency in our hearts.  So our fellowship is comprised of struggling, imperfect Christians who often say, â€œI believe. Help my unbelief!â€<br />
	As for the question of medications, sometimes that is necessary for handling certain bodily imbalances.  There certainly are negative health conditions that are the result of spiritual and emotional issues and thus must be addressed appropriatelyâ€”not simply by taking medication.<br />
	As for the question of feeling inadequate, join the club!  Indeed, thatâ€™s precisely the pointâ€”that weâ€™re inadequate and in need of God.  Consider Jonathan Edwards (1703-1758), of whom the preacher George Whitefield said:  â€œI have not met his like in all New England.â€  The saintly Edwards confessed:<br />
&#8220;Often . . . I have had the very affecting views of my own sinfulness and vileness, very frequently to such a degree as to hold me in a kind of loud weeping, sometimes for a considerable time together, so that I have been often obliged to shut myself up&#8230;.When others that have come to talk with me about their soul&#8217;s concerns have expressed the sense they have had of their wickedness, by saying that it seemed to them they were as bad as the devil himself; I thought their expressions seemed exceeding faint and feeble to represent my wickedness . . . . My wickedness, as I am in myself, has long appeared to me perfectly ineffable [i.e., inexpressible] and swallowing up all thought and imagination&#8211;like an infinite deluge, or mountains over my head. I know not how to express better what my sins appear to me to be, than by heaping infinite on infinite and multiplying infinite by infinite . . . .  When I look into my heart and take a view of my own wickedness, it looks like an abyss infinitely deeper than hell&#8221; (Personal Narrative, Pt. XV).<br />
So take heart! Youâ€™re not alone!  There are lots more of us right next to you!<br />
	I think we should differentiate between being *accepted* before God (which is based on Christâ€™s performance, not ours) and being *pleasing* to Him.  We can please God and walk in His light so long as we acknowledge our sin, our inadequacy, and the need for Godâ€™s forgiveness.<br />
	May God give you grace and wisdomâ€”and the human support you needâ€”as you struggle through these difficult waters.</p>
<p>Blessings to you!</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: MichaelDean</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/06/inner-pain-curse-or-blessing/#comment-1052</link>
		<dc:creator>MichaelDean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 04:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,
I don't know that I can adequately explain this.
     You know, I can easily explain salvation (sola fieda) from scripture.
But ask me to explain fellowship and I choke.  However, thru my studies
of scripture I am coming to the conclusion that fellowship too MUST
be by sola fieda!
     As Paul said "If you break one commandment then you area guilty of all."
(James) and "Whoever relies on obeying the law to be right with God is
under a curse for the scripture says, 'cursed is everyone who does not
continue to do ALL things that are written in the law." (Galatians)
     But I sense a distance from God.  I fear Him in unhealthy ways i.e.
I apparently believe lies about Who He is, who I am in Him and what he
expects of me.
     Therefore, prayer / quiet times are some of my most anxious and stressful
times.  I sense I cannot reach or please God and that really hurts.
For some reason I'm still not confident in my fellowship with God.  I desire
to just rest in His arms.  I just want to be close to Him.
     I believe that my depression / anxiety are mostly symptoms
of a spiritual root problem i.e. lies I believe and misconseptions I have about
Who God is as revealed in the Scriptures.  For the past several years I have
been studying and meditating on God's character, the doctrines of grace,
mercy, justification etc.
     I have suffered with depression /anxiety since at least 8th grade.
I've been on Rx since I was 18. Became a Christian at 19.  Radically
transformed- no doubt about it.  37 now. Still on Rx.  Believe I've been
called to full time ministry.  I think I have been in a time of equiping up
until now.
     Lately I have asked my church  to pray for me because the depression /
anxiety began to interfere with all aspects of my daily life.  I believe that the
Rx are necessary- when I forget a dose I will know within about 24 hours
because I cannot concentrate and I get light headed along with other
symptoms.
     There was a period in my life when I believed that God would kill me.
I would literally lie in mybed at night trembling and crying in absolute fear
and hopelessness.  I didn't tell many about this because when I would they
often turne into Job's friends. I am past the worst of it.  I have had some
good counseling.  And by God's mercy and grace He has shown me that
He does love me and He is very patient.
     What do some of the top conservative scholars say?  Is fellowship
too by sola fieda!  Why? or why not?
Any other comments, suggestions, direction?
Thank You
Mike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,<br />
I don&#8217;t know that I can adequately explain this.<br />
     You know, I can easily explain salvation (sola fieda) from scripture.<br />
But ask me to explain fellowship and I choke.  However, thru my studies<br />
of scripture I am coming to the conclusion that fellowship too MUST<br />
be by sola fieda!<br />
     As Paul said &#8220;If you break one commandment then you area guilty of all.&#8221;<br />
(James) and &#8220;Whoever relies on obeying the law to be right with God is<br />
under a curse for the scripture says, &#8216;cursed is everyone who does not<br />
continue to do ALL things that are written in the law.&#8221; (Galatians)<br />
     But I sense a distance from God.  I fear Him in unhealthy ways i.e.<br />
I apparently believe lies about Who He is, who I am in Him and what he<br />
expects of me.<br />
     Therefore, prayer / quiet times are some of my most anxious and stressful<br />
times.  I sense I cannot reach or please God and that really hurts.<br />
For some reason I&#8217;m still not confident in my fellowship with God.  I desire<br />
to just rest in His arms.  I just want to be close to Him.<br />
     I believe that my depression / anxiety are mostly symptoms<br />
of a spiritual root problem i.e. lies I believe and misconseptions I have about<br />
Who God is as revealed in the Scriptures.  For the past several years I have<br />
been studying and meditating on God&#8217;s character, the doctrines of grace,<br />
mercy, justification etc.<br />
     I have suffered with depression /anxiety since at least 8th grade.<br />
I&#8217;ve been on Rx since I was 18. Became a Christian at 19.  Radically<br />
transformed- no doubt about it.  37 now. Still on Rx.  Believe I&#8217;ve been<br />
called to full time ministry.  I think I have been in a time of equiping up<br />
until now.<br />
     Lately I have asked my church  to pray for me because the depression /<br />
anxiety began to interfere with all aspects of my daily life.  I believe that the<br />
Rx are necessary- when I forget a dose I will know within about 24 hours<br />
because I cannot concentrate and I get light headed along with other<br />
symptoms.<br />
     There was a period in my life when I believed that God would kill me.<br />
I would literally lie in mybed at night trembling and crying in absolute fear<br />
and hopelessness.  I didn&#8217;t tell many about this because when I would they<br />
often turne into Job&#8217;s friends. I am past the worst of it.  I have had some<br />
good counseling.  And by God&#8217;s mercy and grace He has shown me that<br />
He does love me and He is very patient.<br />
     What do some of the top conservative scholars say?  Is fellowship<br />
too by sola fieda!  Why? or why not?<br />
Any other comments, suggestions, direction?<br />
Thank You<br />
Mike</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Copan</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/06/inner-pain-curse-or-blessing/#comment-1051</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Copan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 02:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks so much! God's grace to you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks so much! God&#8217;s grace to you!</p>
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		<title>By: nathanimal</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/06/inner-pain-curse-or-blessing/#comment-1050</link>
		<dc:creator>nathanimal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree with this assessment. Depression has been a lifelong hardship that I would wish upon no one. But at the same time I have seen the invaluable properties that this difficulty has added to my character that [maybe] God's best tool in bringing me into his dependence day after day.

Great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree with this assessment. Depression has been a lifelong hardship that I would wish upon no one. But at the same time I have seen the invaluable properties that this difficulty has added to my character that [maybe] God&#8217;s best tool in bringing me into his dependence day after day.</p>
<p>Great post!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Copan</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/06/inner-pain-curse-or-blessing/#comment-1049</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Copan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 19:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, indeed! Thanks, Steve!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, indeed! Thanks, Steve!</p>
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		<title>By: stevemoore</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/06/inner-pain-curse-or-blessing/#comment-1048</link>
		<dc:creator>stevemoore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jul 2007 19:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I try to liken it to surgery.

No one wants to be cut with a knife.  It hurts!

But instead, in the hands of a skilled surgeon, the knife is a tool that ultimately brings about healing.   If I had some disease and needed surgery, I'd want to have it cut out!  Pain now may not be enjoyable, but I believe that God is the ultimate surgeon and He's working in my life - a nip here, a tuck there, to ultimately one day bring about final healing in eternity.

Thinking of it this way does allow us to change our perspective, and while the pain is no more fun, we can now endure it with peace in our hearts knowing that God is working for our benefit instead of being angry at Him for not delivering us from our circumstances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try to liken it to surgery.</p>
<p>No one wants to be cut with a knife.  It hurts!</p>
<p>But instead, in the hands of a skilled surgeon, the knife is a tool that ultimately brings about healing.   If I had some disease and needed surgery, I&#8217;d want to have it cut out!  Pain now may not be enjoyable, but I believe that God is the ultimate surgeon and He&#8217;s working in my life - a nip here, a tuck there, to ultimately one day bring about final healing in eternity.</p>
<p>Thinking of it this way does allow us to change our perspective, and while the pain is no more fun, we can now endure it with peace in our hearts knowing that God is working for our benefit instead of being angry at Him for not delivering us from our circumstances.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Copan</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/06/inner-pain-curse-or-blessing/#comment-1047</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Copan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 12:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Cheryl, for your openness about how God has worked in your life. It's marvelous to experience--and read about!--such transformations.  The patterns we set through the deliberate choices we make, by God's grace, can help free us from these self-destructive habits.  May you continue to look to Him!

Blessings,

Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Cheryl, for your openness about how God has worked in your life. It&#8217;s marvelous to experience&#8211;and read about!&#8211;such transformations.  The patterns we set through the deliberate choices we make, by God&#8217;s grace, can help free us from these self-destructive habits.  May you continue to look to Him!</p>
<p>Blessings,</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/06/inner-pain-curse-or-blessing/#comment-1046</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 01:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Paul for a great post.  When I read your post, it made me
think back how I reacted to depression and/or pain and how I've changed in
my ways now.  I used to look for attention from anyone I could always crying
about something.  I realized not too long ago that when/if I get to that point
I look to God for help and guidance and I have never been let down. Even
when the outcome isn't exactly as I would have wanted, the result ends up
bringing me closer to the Lord by thinking about all the good things I have
and thanking Him for that.

What I've found is that by doing this just a few times, it then came natural
to seek out His help and guidance on everything and I don't feel depressed
anymore and any pain that might start, gets better immediately.  I now have
a more positive outlook on everything and I thank God everyday for His love
and grace.

Thanks again,

Cheryl Mann-McLaughlin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Paul for a great post.  When I read your post, it made me<br />
think back how I reacted to depression and/or pain and how I&#8217;ve changed in<br />
my ways now.  I used to look for attention from anyone I could always crying<br />
about something.  I realized not too long ago that when/if I get to that point<br />
I look to God for help and guidance and I have never been let down. Even<br />
when the outcome isn&#8217;t exactly as I would have wanted, the result ends up<br />
bringing me closer to the Lord by thinking about all the good things I have<br />
and thanking Him for that.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;ve found is that by doing this just a few times, it then came natural<br />
to seek out His help and guidance on everything and I don&#8217;t feel depressed<br />
anymore and any pain that might start, gets better immediately.  I now have<br />
a more positive outlook on everything and I thank God everyday for His love<br />
and grace.</p>
<p>Thanks again,</p>
<p>Cheryl Mann-McLaughlin</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Copan</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/06/inner-pain-curse-or-blessing/#comment-1045</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Copan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that testimonial!  I pray that the Lord will continue to give you grace while you live in such pain and discomfort.  May the God of all comfort and hope sustain you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that testimonial!  I pray that the Lord will continue to give you grace while you live in such pain and discomfort.  May the God of all comfort and hope sustain you!</p>
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		<title>By: iakobusdoulos</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/06/inner-pain-curse-or-blessing/#comment-1044</link>
		<dc:creator>iakobusdoulos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After spending life as a youth who won trophies for athleticism, being on the tumbling team, track team, and just a "do it all" kind of guy I am now spending life as a semi-invalid with a back problem that no one seems to know what to do with. Pain? 24/7 although my meds help with that somewhat, it takes the edge off. I could complain, I could gripe, I could tell you that I am angry at God for making me go through what I looked on with pity in my years of youthfulness. I'd look at people in my shape and say, "Man, I wish I could give them some of my healthiness!" And I was sincere about it.
     But I won't complain, I won't gripe, and I'm not angry at God. I praise God for what He has given me thus far in this life. Heck, I got to spend the first 47 years as a person who did what he set his mind to. I took Martial Arts, got those trophies, there are so many who never get to do that much. No, I won't complain about the pain. I praise God for it. It draws me closer to Him. I depend on Him more. It's humbling really. But, I do look forward to the day I can walk upright again, holding His hand, but first, I'll spend a great deal of time prostrate before His feet. Praise His Name forever! So, you're right Paul, it does open our eyes as to how we need Him. And to how Awesome, Generous, and Loving He really is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After spending life as a youth who won trophies for athleticism, being on the tumbling team, track team, and just a &#8220;do it all&#8221; kind of guy I am now spending life as a semi-invalid with a back problem that no one seems to know what to do with. Pain? 24/7 although my meds help with that somewhat, it takes the edge off. I could complain, I could gripe, I could tell you that I am angry at God for making me go through what I looked on with pity in my years of youthfulness. I&#8217;d look at people in my shape and say, &#8220;Man, I wish I could give them some of my healthiness!&#8221; And I was sincere about it.<br />
     But I won&#8217;t complain, I won&#8217;t gripe, and I&#8217;m not angry at God. I praise God for what He has given me thus far in this life. Heck, I got to spend the first 47 years as a person who did what he set his mind to. I took Martial Arts, got those trophies, there are so many who never get to do that much. No, I won&#8217;t complain about the pain. I praise God for it. It draws me closer to Him. I depend on Him more. It&#8217;s humbling really. But, I do look forward to the day I can walk upright again, holding His hand, but first, I&#8217;ll spend a great deal of time prostrate before His feet. Praise His Name forever! So, you&#8217;re right Paul, it does open our eyes as to how we need Him. And to how Awesome, Generous, and Loving He really is!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Copan</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/06/inner-pain-curse-or-blessing/#comment-1043</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Copan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to you all for your comments.  We all need to be reminded (and rebuked) about the temptation to pursue self-sufficiency.  We run the risk of becoming practical atheists.  To varying degrees. we all are in danger of allowing this subtle idol to creep into our lives. May God help us to "keep [ourselves] from idols" (1 Jn. 5:21).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to you all for your comments.  We all need to be reminded (and rebuked) about the temptation to pursue self-sufficiency.  We run the risk of becoming practical atheists.  To varying degrees. we all are in danger of allowing this subtle idol to creep into our lives. May God help us to &#8220;keep [ourselves] from idols&#8221; (1 Jn. 5:21).</p>
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		<title>By: mjfreshoil</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/06/inner-pain-curse-or-blessing/#comment-1042</link>
		<dc:creator>mjfreshoil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 19:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

Thank you for a great lesson.  It is  a great revelation.  In a time where we seem to want to be delivered from our weaknesses, it is a great reminder to know that no matter what our circumstance, that His "grace is sufficient".  Thanks again.

Miles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>Thank you for a great lesson.  It is  a great revelation.  In a time where we seem to want to be delivered from our weaknesses, it is a great reminder to know that no matter what our circumstance, that His &#8220;grace is sufficient&#8221;.  Thanks again.</p>
<p>Miles</p>
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		<title>By: richards</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/06/inner-pain-curse-or-blessing/#comment-1041</link>
		<dc:creator>richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

A timely message for me as well.  I cannot thank you enough for turning my eyes up rather than in.

Richard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>A timely message for me as well.  I cannot thank you enough for turning my eyes up rather than in.</p>
<p>Richard</p>
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		<title>By: C Michael Patton</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/06/inner-pain-curse-or-blessing/#comment-1040</link>
		<dc:creator>C Michael Patton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 16:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Paul. I needed this!

I don't know about you, but I go through this with my ministry, especially with teaching. I always want to feel confident about &lt;em&gt;everything &lt;/em&gt;and secure in my presentation. I also stress about whether my life is meeting up to the standards of that on which I am about to speak. This is not only stressful, but often depressing.

In relation to what you wrote, I know that the common experience is that when I don't experience this stressful and depressing time, I don't rely quit so much on the Lord and things don't go quit so well. Now I often pray that I am going through some conflict so that I don't rely too much on my own strength, but on His.

Thanks for the reminder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Paul. I needed this!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about you, but I go through this with my ministry, especially with teaching. I always want to feel confident about <em>everything </em>and secure in my presentation. I also stress about whether my life is meeting up to the standards of that on which I am about to speak. This is not only stressful, but often depressing.</p>
<p>In relation to what you wrote, I know that the common experience is that when I don&#8217;t experience this stressful and depressing time, I don&#8217;t rely quit so much on the Lord and things don&#8217;t go quit so well. Now I often pray that I am going through some conflict so that I don&#8217;t rely too much on my own strength, but on His.</p>
<p>Thanks for the reminder.</p>
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