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	<title>Comments on: What is the best Bible study software?</title>
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		<title>By: DanielFoster</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/05/what-is-the-best-bible-study-software/comment-page-1/#comment-551</link>
		<dc:creator>DanielFoster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 01:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for including Logos and complimenting the software. It&#039;s always great to see the efforts of the team here at Logos appreciated.  :-)

I would, however, challenge you the same way you challenged Dan Wallace...show me something BibleWorks can do that Logos can&#039;t. I could point to a few things related to original languages (syntax searching comes to mind) that Logos alone can do. But I can&#039;t think of any areas where the reverse is true.

There are also some important considerations for the biblical-languages-only guy to consider, such as &quot;How useful are core lexical resources such as BDAG or HALOT within this system?&quot; Logos offers unmatched richness and functionality for resources such as this. (For some vivid illustrations, see the &lt;a href=&quot;http://digitalsword.com/blog/bibleworks/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Digital Sword blog&lt;/a&gt; which is a bit out of date but communicates the basic idea.)

Then we could go on to look at the integration of corpuses such as Ugaritic or Dead Sea Scrolls, etc.

I hope you don&#039;t feel like I&#039;m intruding on your discussion but I just wanted to challenge the notion (once true but no longer) that Logos offers a digital library and naught else. Today the platform delivers both a sophisticated exegetical toolset and loads of books!

Daniel Foster
Logos Bible Software
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-551" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('551', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-551-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>Thanks for including Logos and complimenting the software. It&#8217;s always great to see the efforts of the team here at Logos appreciated.  <img src='http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I would, however, challenge you the same way you challenged Dan Wallace&#8230;show me something BibleWorks can do that Logos can&#8217;t. I could point to a few things related to original languages (syntax searching comes to mind) that Logos alone can do. But I can&#8217;t think of any areas where the reverse is true.</p>
<p>There are also some important considerations for the biblical-languages-only guy to consider, such as &#8220;How useful are core lexical resources such as BDAG or HALOT within this system?&#8221; Logos offers unmatched richness and functionality for resources such as this. (For some vivid illustrations, see the <a href="http://digitalsword.com/blog/bibleworks/" rel="nofollow">Digital Sword blog</a> which is a bit out of date but communicates the basic idea.)</p>
<p>Then we could go on to look at the integration of corpuses such as Ugaritic or Dead Sea Scrolls, etc.</p>
<p>I hope you don&#8217;t feel like I&#8217;m intruding on your discussion but I just wanted to challenge the notion (once true but no longer) that Logos offers a digital library and naught else. Today the platform delivers both a sophisticated exegetical toolset and loads of books!</p>
<p>Daniel Foster<br />
Logos Bible Software<br />
<a href="mailto:daniel@logos.com">daniel@logos.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: C Michael Patton</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/05/what-is-the-best-bible-study-software/comment-page-1/#comment-550</link>
		<dc:creator>C Michael Patton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 22:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol. Sorry Steve. I guess it is hard when I lump Matthew Henry together with Charles Finney. That needed some clarification. Don&#039;t burn your hand. While Henry&#039;s is OK, it is not worth the scar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-550" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('550', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-550-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>lol. Sorry Steve. I guess it is hard when I lump Matthew Henry together with Charles Finney. That needed some clarification. Don&#8217;t burn your hand. While Henry&#8217;s is OK, it is not worth the scar.</p>
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		<title>By: stevemoore</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/05/what-is-the-best-bible-study-software/comment-page-1/#comment-549</link>
		<dc:creator>stevemoore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 21:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

Fair enough - I guess I mis-understood some of the concerns regarding MH.   I&#039;ll go fetch my copy from the fire.  ;^)

Thanks for clarifying,

-steve</description>
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<p>Fair enough &#8211; I guess I mis-understood some of the concerns regarding MH.   I&#8217;ll go fetch my copy from the fire.  ;^)</p>
<p>Thanks for clarifying,</p>
<p>-steve</p>
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		<title>By: C Michael Patton</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/05/what-is-the-best-bible-study-software/comment-page-1/#comment-548</link>
		<dc:creator>C Michael Patton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 21:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve,

I would not necessarily say there their are &quot;errors&quot; in Matthew Henry&#039;s Commentary per se, in fact, I would agree with most of what he says. It is just the context, language, and issues with which he is dealing may be nuanced according to his culture and opponents. This will be very difficult for people to understand unless they know that this is not an up-to-date representation of current issue and scholarship. As well, while his tone may have lent well to his day, it can be misrepresentative of the Evangelical tone today.

In other words, we would have to approach older works such as these as we do the Scriptures, understanding the audience and the situation of the author. This would require quite a bit of work that the average person may not know how to do and may not desire to do.

Again, I think Matthew Henry is great, but he must be understood in his own context. This is hard to do.</description>
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<p>I would not necessarily say there their are &#8220;errors&#8221; in Matthew Henry&#8217;s Commentary per se, in fact, I would agree with most of what he says. It is just the context, language, and issues with which he is dealing may be nuanced according to his culture and opponents. This will be very difficult for people to understand unless they know that this is not an up-to-date representation of current issue and scholarship. As well, while his tone may have lent well to his day, it can be misrepresentative of the Evangelical tone today.</p>
<p>In other words, we would have to approach older works such as these as we do the Scriptures, understanding the audience and the situation of the author. This would require quite a bit of work that the average person may not know how to do and may not desire to do.</p>
<p>Again, I think Matthew Henry is great, but he must be understood in his own context. This is hard to do.</p>
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		<title>By: C Michael Patton</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/05/what-is-the-best-bible-study-software/comment-page-1/#comment-547</link>
		<dc:creator>C Michael Patton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 21:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice Richard.</description>
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		<title>By: C Michael Patton</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/05/what-is-the-best-bible-study-software/comment-page-1/#comment-546</link>
		<dc:creator>C Michael Patton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 19:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, that is an interesting question. In 2000, I was in my advanced Greek grammar class with Dan Wallace. One of his assignments was that we spent a few hours on Accordance. I told him that I used Bibleworks and asked if that would be sufficient. He told me that it would not because Bibleworks could not produce the complex searches that Accordance did. I disagreed and challenged him to check out Bibleworks more closely. Now Dan endorses Bibleworks as a great program. He even has his Greek Grammar offered on Bibleworks!

In short, Bibleworks and Accordance are very similar. I don&#039;t think that there is anything that one can do that the other cannot (at least anything significant).

Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-546" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('546', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-546-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>Bill, that is an interesting question. In 2000, I was in my advanced Greek grammar class with Dan Wallace. One of his assignments was that we spent a few hours on Accordance. I told him that I used Bibleworks and asked if that would be sufficient. He told me that it would not because Bibleworks could not produce the complex searches that Accordance did. I disagreed and challenged him to check out Bibleworks more closely. Now Dan endorses Bibleworks as a great program. He even has his Greek Grammar offered on Bibleworks!</p>
<p>In short, Bibleworks and Accordance are very similar. I don&#8217;t think that there is anything that one can do that the other cannot (at least anything significant).</p>
<p>Michael</p>
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		<title>By: bnelson</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/05/what-is-the-best-bible-study-software/comment-page-1/#comment-545</link>
		<dc:creator>bnelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 17:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael,

How do you think BibleWorks stacks up against Accordance?

Bill</description>
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<p>How do you think BibleWorks stacks up against Accordance?</p>
<p>Bill</p>
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		<title>By: stevemoore</title>
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		<dc:creator>stevemoore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 15:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A bit of a tangent, but somewhat related...

I have seen and heard the comments about Matthew Henry&#039;s commentary and have heard that it is not quite up to date in the latest thinking and research as well as that it is downright incorrect  on some topics.  At some point, would it be ok if you pointed out what these were?  I&#039;m not in any way doubting that they are wrong, but when I go and talk to a friend that&#039;s relying heavily on MH, I&#039;d sure like to be a bit more informed and confident in stating why that might not be the best choice of a study tool.  Again, I realize that this ediscussion is about software - and so if you prefer to answer it elsewhere that&#039;s perfectly fine.

Ok, actually I&#039;m just worried about Carrie - she really seems to like Matthew Henry and that concerns me.    ;^)

-steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-544" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('544', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-544-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>A bit of a tangent, but somewhat related&#8230;</p>
<p>I have seen and heard the comments about Matthew Henry&#8217;s commentary and have heard that it is not quite up to date in the latest thinking and research as well as that it is downright incorrect  on some topics.  At some point, would it be ok if you pointed out what these were?  I&#8217;m not in any way doubting that they are wrong, but when I go and talk to a friend that&#8217;s relying heavily on MH, I&#8217;d sure like to be a bit more informed and confident in stating why that might not be the best choice of a study tool.  Again, I realize that this ediscussion is about software &#8211; and so if you prefer to answer it elsewhere that&#8217;s perfectly fine.</p>
<p>Ok, actually I&#8217;m just worried about Carrie &#8211; she really seems to like Matthew Henry and that concerns me.    ;^)</p>
<p>-steve</p>
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		<title>By: richards</title>
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		<dc:creator>richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 13:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have wesley&#039;s notes in pdf.  Is that ok?  :)</description>
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		<title>By: C Michael Patton</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/05/what-is-the-best-bible-study-software/comment-page-1/#comment-542</link>
		<dc:creator>C Michael Patton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 12:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No!</description>
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