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	<title>Comments on: Welcome to the world of agnostics</title>
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		<title>By: ChadS</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/05/welcome-to-the-world-of-agnostics/comment-page-1/#comment-807</link>
		<dc:creator>ChadS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 19:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This woman&#039;s attitude is very disheartening.  While she may believe she is open in her attitudes and thought process it is actually the very opposite.

She doesn&#039;t know where creation came from but from her very response we know that she believes it didn&#039;t come from God.  Then to make things worse she seems to accept as authoritative the proclamation of her seven year old.  My experience with seven year olds is limited but I doubt they should be looked to on subjects as weighty as the origins of the cosmos.  Who knows maybe she asks her child for financial advice too?

In my experience God doesn&#039;t close off discussions.  Only we close off the discussions.  You can still believe in God and inquire into the natural order of things.

You&#039;re right Michael, unfortunately this sort of drivel passes for intellectual curiosity.

ChadS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-807" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('807', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-807-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>This woman&#8217;s attitude is very disheartening.  While she may believe she is open in her attitudes and thought process it is actually the very opposite.</p>
<p>She doesn&#8217;t know where creation came from but from her very response we know that she believes it didn&#8217;t come from God.  Then to make things worse she seems to accept as authoritative the proclamation of her seven year old.  My experience with seven year olds is limited but I doubt they should be looked to on subjects as weighty as the origins of the cosmos.  Who knows maybe she asks her child for financial advice too?</p>
<p>In my experience God doesn&#8217;t close off discussions.  Only we close off the discussions.  You can still believe in God and inquire into the natural order of things.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right Michael, unfortunately this sort of drivel passes for intellectual curiosity.</p>
<p>ChadS</p>
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		<title>By: sgmen31</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/05/welcome-to-the-world-of-agnostics/comment-page-1/#comment-806</link>
		<dc:creator>sgmen31</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2007 03:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without knowing more about the woman&#039;s background it is hard for me to understand why she thinks that way in the first place.  Romans 1 says it all as noted above but also I think when you start with the supposition that God either isn&#039;t or doesn&#039;t care it taints all of your thinking.  If you don&#039;t believe in the super-natural or think it a possiblity as an answer how can you believe in God?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-806" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('806', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-806-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>Without knowing more about the woman&#8217;s background it is hard for me to understand why she thinks that way in the first place.  Romans 1 says it all as noted above but also I think when you start with the supposition that God either isn&#8217;t or doesn&#8217;t care it taints all of your thinking.  If you don&#8217;t believe in the super-natural or think it a possiblity as an answer how can you believe in God?</p>
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		<title>By: bnelson</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/05/welcome-to-the-world-of-agnostics/comment-page-1/#comment-804</link>
		<dc:creator>bnelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 11:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Early in this article she says...

&quot;...when people ask me what Iâ€™m doing next weekend, I say â€œnothingâ€ with a pleasant expression because it means I can do whatever comes my way.&quot;


This comment puts here firmly in the grasp of postmodernism and goes hand-in-hand with relative truth; truth is not absolute but rather truth for me is what I think is true.

In this postmodern society it appears being &quot;intellectual&quot; infers either a atheist or agnostic position towards God as either allows one to proceed down a totally self-driven path.

Bill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-804" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('804', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-804-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>Early in this article she says&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;when people ask me what Iâ€™m doing next weekend, I say â€œnothingâ€ with a pleasant expression because it means I can do whatever comes my way.&#8221;</p>
<p>This comment puts here firmly in the grasp of postmodernism and goes hand-in-hand with relative truth; truth is not absolute but rather truth for me is what I think is true.</p>
<p>In this postmodern society it appears being &#8220;intellectual&#8221; infers either a atheist or agnostic position towards God as either allows one to proceed down a totally self-driven path.</p>
<p>Bill</p>
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		<title>By: stevemoore</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/05/welcome-to-the-world-of-agnostics/comment-page-1/#comment-805</link>
		<dc:creator>stevemoore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 10:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we have a clear picture of why this lady has expressed her desire never to know the answers.  This clearly, I feel, is a direct expression of the willful ignorance and describes perfectly what Paul discusses in Romans 1.   In fact, it is exactly what he&#039;s talking about.

Though the creation of the world clearly reveals God&#039;s presence, attributes, and handiwork to the world, she is willfully suppressing the truth.

It is intellectual in the same way that exchanging truth for a lie is intellectual (not very).   Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools.

Sadly, I think that she&#039;s wanting to hide behind the mystery that they have created, as you have noted.  It makes it a spiritual experience and expression for them to denounce God as the creator.

I think people want to be righteous, but the rebellion they harbor makes them want it on their own terms.  So, they create a &quot;reality&quot; to live in, and then follow their own paradigm that they created in an attempt to gain their own righteousness.   The agnostic has created a &quot;reality&quot; although a very inconsistent one, and the mystery that they embrace allows them to ignore God in spite of the evidence.

-steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-805" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('805', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-805-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>I think we have a clear picture of why this lady has expressed her desire never to know the answers.  This clearly, I feel, is a direct expression of the willful ignorance and describes perfectly what Paul discusses in Romans 1.   In fact, it is exactly what he&#8217;s talking about.</p>
<p>Though the creation of the world clearly reveals God&#8217;s presence, attributes, and handiwork to the world, she is willfully suppressing the truth.</p>
<p>It is intellectual in the same way that exchanging truth for a lie is intellectual (not very).   Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools.</p>
<p>Sadly, I think that she&#8217;s wanting to hide behind the mystery that they have created, as you have noted.  It makes it a spiritual experience and expression for them to denounce God as the creator.</p>
<p>I think people want to be righteous, but the rebellion they harbor makes them want it on their own terms.  So, they create a &#8220;reality&#8221; to live in, and then follow their own paradigm that they created in an attempt to gain their own righteousness.   The agnostic has created a &#8220;reality&#8221; although a very inconsistent one, and the mystery that they embrace allows them to ignore God in spite of the evidence.</p>
<p>-steve</p>
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