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	<title>Comments on: Is Birth Control Sin?</title>
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		<title>By: Bible Study</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/03/is-birth-control-sin/comment-page-1/#comment-40582</link>
		<dc:creator>Bible Study</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 02:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe birth control is sin myself.  I do believe that murder is sin, but calling birth control murder, I won&#039;t go that far.  To each his own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-40582" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('40582', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-40582-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>I don&#8217;t believe birth control is sin myself.  I do believe that murder is sin, but calling birth control murder, I won&#8217;t go that far.  To each his own.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth Unites... and Divides</title>
		<link>http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/03/is-birth-control-sin/comment-page-1/#comment-24421</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth Unites... and Divides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This article by Mary Eberstadt titled &quot;Christianity Lite&quot; touches upon the issue of contraception.  It can be found &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firstthings.com/article/2010/01/christianity-lite&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-24421" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('24421', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-24421-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>This article by Mary Eberstadt titled &#8220;Christianity Lite&#8221; touches upon the issue of contraception.  It can be found <a href="http://www.firstthings.com/article/2010/01/christianity-lite" rel="nofollow">here.</a></p>
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		<title>By: C Michael Patton</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Michael Patton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 20:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Harry. We have four and they are surely a great blessing. I am sure there are many of those who read this blog and wonder why we are not practicing more birth control!!

God bless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-194" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('194', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-194-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>Thanks Harry. We have four and they are surely a great blessing. I am sure there are many of those who read this blog and wonder why we are not practicing more birth control!!</p>
<p>God bless.</p>
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		<title>By: harrynelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>harrynelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK.  Fiirst, I am a huge fan of TTP.  Thanks to you and Rhome for your ministry.  I am an Elder in a SBC Church in Charlotte, NC, and your program has helped me tremendously in understanding theology more in depth.

Here&#039;s one that I feel (partially) qualified to engage you on, though.  I have 7 children.  You mention that  &quot;There is nowhere that Scripture speaks directly to this matter either in precept or principle.&quot;

God judges our heart in what we do.  I would just challenge you and the other folks who read this blog on this one to search your heart on what &quot;practiced responsibly and for the right reasons&quot; means.

While God did not speak to the idea of birth control, specifically, through the scriptures, he does speak to His view of the value of children, and how they are to be viewed by the parents.

Psalms 127:3-5 (ESV)
3 Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward.
4 Like arrows in the hand of a warrior are the children of one&#039;s youth.
5 Blessed is the man who fills his quiver with them! He shall not be put to shame when he speaks with his enemies in the gate.

Here, God clearly has a state of mind and heart about having children, and the fact that we have moved from a largely agrarian society to an industrial one did not change His mind.

My wife and I did not start out with the intent of having lots of kids.  We thought we would have 2 or 3 like anyone else... But, with each one, we re-asked the question:  What, in our circumstance, would make us prevent or delay more children through some extraordinary means?  Each time, we seriously considered surgery for either her or I.  I even went for a &quot;consultation&quot; one time to discuss surgery for me after our 5th.  (Most oral contraception is abortifacient, so we didn&#039;t open that up as an option.)  But, in the end, we have always come back to a series of questions.

What other blessing of God would we consider having surgery to prevent or delay?  What does our answer show us about our heart?

If we go forward with surgery of some type, why are we doing it?  Is it, in reality, a selfish reason.

There are a lot of folks who use the &quot;practiced resbonsibly and for the right reasons&quot; to justify a lot of reasons that are not so right.

Please don&#039;t get me wrong.  This is not an easy decision.  We have had some very difficult conversations with each other and with God on this issue.  I am not one of those that believes that it is always a sin to prevent a pregnancy.  We have had some very, very difficult pregnancies.  We know what its like to go through that.  After our 5th, I really thought I wasn&#039;t getting the time with each one that I would need in order to be a good parent.

Althoug a little off topic, I will say, practically, that 3 children is the &quot;hardest&quot; to have in terms of demands on your life.  After that, you really start to realize some economies of scale, you give up any pretense that you&#039;re going to have a good golf game or anything like that, and your life gets better every day.

I just think the line is not where most American Christians put it, in terms of what &quot;right reasons&quot; means.  Before helping plant a familiy integrated church, we were almost ostracized for the number of kids we had.  God looks at the heart, and having 7 children, people take it upon themselves to tell me a lot about what is on their heart regarding kids, and I wish people could hear themselves - like children are an unfortunate disease.

Thanks again, Michael, for your ministry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-193" src="http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('193', 'add', 'www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <span id="karma-193-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">0</span></p><p>OK.  Fiirst, I am a huge fan of TTP.  Thanks to you and Rhome for your ministry.  I am an Elder in a SBC Church in Charlotte, NC, and your program has helped me tremendously in understanding theology more in depth.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s one that I feel (partially) qualified to engage you on, though.  I have 7 children.  You mention that  &#8220;There is nowhere that Scripture speaks directly to this matter either in precept or principle.&#8221;</p>
<p>God judges our heart in what we do.  I would just challenge you and the other folks who read this blog on this one to search your heart on what &#8220;practiced responsibly and for the right reasons&#8221; means.</p>
<p>While God did not speak to the idea of birth control, specifically, through the scriptures, he does speak to His view of the value of children, and how they are to be viewed by the parents.</p>
<p>Psalms 127:3-5 (ESV)<br />
3 Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward.<br />
4 Like arrows in the hand of a warrior are the children of one&#8217;s youth.<br />
5 Blessed is the man who fills his quiver with them! He shall not be put to shame when he speaks with his enemies in the gate.</p>
<p>Here, God clearly has a state of mind and heart about having children, and the fact that we have moved from a largely agrarian society to an industrial one did not change His mind.</p>
<p>My wife and I did not start out with the intent of having lots of kids.  We thought we would have 2 or 3 like anyone else&#8230; But, with each one, we re-asked the question:  What, in our circumstance, would make us prevent or delay more children through some extraordinary means?  Each time, we seriously considered surgery for either her or I.  I even went for a &#8220;consultation&#8221; one time to discuss surgery for me after our 5th.  (Most oral contraception is abortifacient, so we didn&#8217;t open that up as an option.)  But, in the end, we have always come back to a series of questions.</p>
<p>What other blessing of God would we consider having surgery to prevent or delay?  What does our answer show us about our heart?</p>
<p>If we go forward with surgery of some type, why are we doing it?  Is it, in reality, a selfish reason.</p>
<p>There are a lot of folks who use the &#8220;practiced resbonsibly and for the right reasons&#8221; to justify a lot of reasons that are not so right.</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t get me wrong.  This is not an easy decision.  We have had some very difficult conversations with each other and with God on this issue.  I am not one of those that believes that it is always a sin to prevent a pregnancy.  We have had some very, very difficult pregnancies.  We know what its like to go through that.  After our 5th, I really thought I wasn&#8217;t getting the time with each one that I would need in order to be a good parent.</p>
<p>Althoug a little off topic, I will say, practically, that 3 children is the &#8220;hardest&#8221; to have in terms of demands on your life.  After that, you really start to realize some economies of scale, you give up any pretense that you&#8217;re going to have a good golf game or anything like that, and your life gets better every day.</p>
<p>I just think the line is not where most American Christians put it, in terms of what &#8220;right reasons&#8221; means.  Before helping plant a familiy integrated church, we were almost ostracized for the number of kids we had.  God looks at the heart, and having 7 children, people take it upon themselves to tell me a lot about what is on their heart regarding kids, and I wish people could hear themselves &#8211; like children are an unfortunate disease.</p>
<p>Thanks again, Michael, for your ministry.</p>
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