The Sex Talk
Yes, I thought that the title would get you in. But your internet filter might flag this. :)I am having some trouble and I would like to hear some thoughts of the wise and experienced. My daughter Katelynn is 8 years old now and we have yet to have “the talk” with her about sex. My wife and I have gone back and forth about this for the last couple of years, being uncertain as to when is the right time. My thoughts have been the earlier the better. My wife on the other hand does not want her to lose the innocence that ignorance provides concerning this issue. I don’t want her to learn from a friend in the school bathroom.I feel that if we wait too long, and a friend does end up telling her, then Kristie (my wife) and I become thought of as irrelevant in these issues. Then it only become a subject that is spoken of with friends. I know that different people have different opinions, I understand. There also may not be a right answer.However, yesterday this was placed in the family inbox labeled with a “High Importance” red exclamation. I was sitting on the computer and Katelynn had one of her friends over. I over heard them talking in the bathroom and was eavesdropping. Her friend said “Do you know what sex is?” Ahhh….my fears were coming true–only this was in our bathroom. I thought about jumping in immediately, but I decided to listen quietly. Katelynn said, “No, what is it.” Her friend responded, “I don’t think I am supposed to tell you.” Well, we all know what that will do to an eight year old. I still remained silent, ready to jump in at any moment. Katelynn proceeded to beg her to tell her what the big “insider” information was. Finally, her friend caved and said, “It is when a man and a woman get in bed and . . .” “Stop!” I screamed. Both of them came out of the bathroom startled and afraid. I told Katelynn’s friend that her mommy and daddy would inform her of this when we are ready.
So, are we ready? Not sure. When you do tell your kids about sex. My mother and father never had “the talk” with me. I was riding my bike when I was 10 years old. It was on Timberridge. We were at the top of the hill heading down. There were three of us. One friend said, “Do you know how babies are made.” I said, “Sure. It is when a man and woman kiss or something” (I really believed that). Then my friend told me the startling truth. I did not believe him. I thought he was making it up. When he continued to insist on the truth of what he was saying, I got so mad I wanted to get off my bike and beat him up. All my information about sex came from my friends. I don’t want that to happen with my kids.
Now, since this is a theology blog, let me enter a thought in here. It might be true that we need to wait as long as we can to tell the story. We may want to preserve the child’s “innocence” until it is necessary to bring it up. But could it be that this mindset evidences a gnostic view of sex? What makes it so bad that ignorance of it is perceived of as “innocence.” Isn’t sex from God? Isn’t sex part of the “good” that he created? Now I am not advocating a “The Gift of Sex” bedtime story devotional for toddlers, but I would think that we should tell them about the beauty of sex–the gift of sex–from the time they are able to comprehend it. I know that Adam and Eve were ashamed of their nakedness, but that is a result of the fall. The lust and shame that came from sexuality must be redeemed by our worldview, right? If it is not redeemed, we cannot control it as it becomes a forbidden fruit–don’t taste, touch, smell, or talk about–that everyone will want because of “Keep Out” sign hung on its doorway. As in the movie “The Village,” it becomes “the thing about which we are not allowed to speak.”
One more thing I must say to balance this perspective. If there were no chance that my children would ever hear about sex from someone else, then I would have no problem waiting until their bodies begin to tell them as well. It does seem natural. But the fact is that our world is fallen. People will corrupt all that is good, and sex is usually the first fruit of the corruption. Therefore, I want them to hear about the good version before they ever get a chance to hear the corrupted version. Then I can inform them of the corrupted version in light of the good.
What are your thoughts?
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sberrios on 02 Feb 2007 at 4:58 pm #
“I want them to hear about the good version before they ever get
a chance to hear the corrupted version. Then I can inform them
of the corrupted version in light of the good.”
I think this is the best policy
What is hard is how do one bring
up the conversation in the first place?
My oldest son is 13 and I remember vividly how we had “the conversation.”
I was walking out of the kitchen when I hear his voice from behind me
asking “Dad, have you ever had sex with mom?” I answered, yes, once
sberrios on 02 Feb 2007 at 5:00 pm #
Btw he was about 5 at the time…
jude_g on 25 Feb 2007 at 10:56 am #
Having two daughters myself ,i am so familiar with this dilemma-what my husband and i did was to break it down into manageable bits -when they were little and asked the inevitable “where do babies come from ?” we explained the egg and seed making a baby in mummy’s tummy and as they got older we let them take the lead and found they asked the more technical questions when they were ready.
Often God gives them their own in built sense of when they are ready and they will ask ,if they are not forthcoming then broach it tactfully and they will either be interested or say yukk !! -guess you might have to wait a bit then
As christian parents its often not the technicalities that is the big issue but giving them a healthy attitude and explaining that sex is a loving ,healthy and fun thing in the right environment -i.e marriage but don,t worry 8 is a bit young for this sort of heavy stuff -I’m sure you and your wife know your daughter best ,trust your God given instincts and don’t let other confuse you -every blessing Jude
C Michael Patton on 26 Feb 2007 at 2:26 pm #
Thanks so much for the wise advise. This is very helpful.
britphil on 22 Apr 2008 at 10:35 am #
“Katelynn had one of her friends over. I over heard them talking in the bathroom and was eavesdropping. Her friend said “Do you know what sex is?”
Michael…just what kind of a father are you? Fancy having the gall to eavesdrop on your daughter’s conversation outside bathrooms??!! Is nothing sacred anymore? Actually I’m quite impressed…a great bit of super sleuthing if you ask me…
Again this thread is over a year old but when I saw the title “The Sex Talk” come up on the Random Post bookmark…well you just have to go and see what it’s all about don’t you.
I was stunned to see that you had only received four responses prior to this one!
As the father of an almost six year old daughter this issue will soon become a “hot potato” in the Green household (yes…that is my surname folks!!..please no P(ea) Green jokes as I will not go away and not return…now there is an incentive if ever there was one!).
It would appear that this particular offspring of mine is a pretty smart cookie (she must take after her Mum!) so the question may come sooner than we imagine! What I am getting a bit concerned about are the snippets of conversation I glean from Rebecca which have taken place in the toilet block of the primary school she attends! I have a terrible fear that she might end op as a teenage scriptwriter for Desperate Housewives!!
I am a bit disappointed though. It would have been great to hear what Katelynn’s friend’s eight year old take on sex was before you screamed “Stop!!!!” But as a Dad I can understand the desire to get in there quick!
“But could it be that this mindset evidences a gnostic view of sex? What makes it so bad that ignorance of it is perceived of as “innocence.” Isn’t sex from God? Isn’t sex part of the “good” that he created? Now I am not advocating a “The Gift of Sex” bedtime story devotional for toddlers, but I would think that we should tell them about the beauty of sex–the gift of sex–from the time they are able to comprehend it. I know that Adam and Eve were ashamed of their nakedness, but that is a result of the fall. The lust and shame that came from sexuality must be redeemed by our worldview, right? If it is not redeemed, we cannot control it as it becomes a forbidden fruit–don’t taste, touch, smell, or talk about–that everyone will want because of “Keep Out” sign hung on its doorway. As in the movie “The Village,” it becomes “the thing about which we are not allowed to speak.”
Absolutely spot on!
By the way, don’t you think kids sometimes make the best theologians..even better in some cases because they don’t have any inhibitions about asking questions on probing issues which the rest of us tend to shy away from!